Lech Walesa urged to "reduce Russia" to 50 million people

@pawian
Ripping apart a country is not the right solution. And it isn't going to happen, so they should stop "looking forward" to it like vultures waiting to eat a dead body of animal.

There isn't anything inherently wrong with Russia, only the people running it.

Russia is not a "country" it's an aggressive military empire.

The Austrian Empire was dismantled and the world was overall better for it.

The Ottoman Empire was dismantled and the world was overall better for it.

Russia's turn.

You might not perceive it since all you know is life within the empire but those of us in countries wish you a better existence than you can have with Russia in its present form..

I wholeheartedly concur, Maf! How different from Russian leaders of the "detente era".

Agreed.
Time for Russia to go.
That country has been a problem for far too long.
Civilised nations are guilty of not seeing it sooner and dealing with it sooner.
But it is what it is.
Russia needs to be dismantled and some form of democracy put in place.
But I fear that Russian people are too weak or too scared to do it without outside help.
Enter the western cavalry......

We can agree that people running Russia are wrong.
But Russian people are at fault too......they Just cannot keep accepting this sh1t like lemmings!
Russians have to wake up and be brave enough to improve their country!

Let me add: British Empire was dismantled, Frankish (Germanic) Empire and later forms of it (EU form included) was dismantled, USA Empire in its NATO form was dismantled, Japan Empire was dismantled, Roman Empire was dismantled, Western Roman Empire was dismantled, Eastern Roman Empire was dismantled, etc.


Well, you may desire for it but, Russian Empire can`t be compare to above mentioned.

Why? Because Empires in Europe, above mentioned, were primarily formed to conquer Slavs and spread onto Slavic lands for colonial reason, as I said. Forming Rus idea was different.

First you equals Huge with Empire. That`s mistake. Then, Russia was founded as the desperate act of Slavic Rus and other tribes to merge having seen how Slavs suffer and retreat due to Drang Nach Osten since the Roman era. So they merged. Then they bordered with Germanized (so previously Slavic) regions which were hostile to Slavs. So they defeated oppressors and merged with those lands, too. Then they continued to spread on the wild wastelands of Siberia, etc where they encountered small tribes on a gigantic territories. Having state organization they merged those tribes, too.

Similarly how we comprehend China and India.

If we can imagine huge Slavic country from Eastern Germany to the Balkans and Kamchatka it shouldn't be considered Empire in pejorative sense. We can name it Russia, Poland or Serbia but we are still within borders of Slavic civilization.

See, that is one of reasons why was Slavic history always falsified by many above mentioned dismantled Empires. Keep people without information and then spread propaganda. Slavic Empire from Europe to Eurasia would be always natural thing to environment, and not something superimposed on others for colonial reasons. Slavic Empire is just merging of Slavs and dealing with hostiles. Evolution. Other Empires in Europe, above mentioned, were primarily formed to conquer Slavs, as I said.

Slavic Rus state no matter how huge wasn`t formed to conquer Frankish Empire. But Frankish Empire was formed to conquer Slavs.

Wrong as usual Crow.
All great empires die eventually.....

Oh No..... Here comes Crow's insane BS......



What a load of old bollox!
Nothing but myth,legend and mainly Russian propaganda!
We have all seen and learnt how the last "Russian Empire" ,the USSR treated their supposed Slavic brothers....You are pathetic Crow.
Russians do not care about Slavdom at all.
They just want to be masters of all Slavs and treat them as slaves.
If you stupid Serbs think that licking Russian arses will benefit you,then you are sorely mistaken.
Russians will treat you the same as all other Slavs.
Time for Serbs to wake up.
You are supporting the wrong side......

@Crow
There is no "Slavic Empire". Slavic countries are both different and similar, but not the same. Are you crazy?
Also, if there was it wouldn't be called "Serbia". Instead one of the more important Slavic countries, Poland or Russia I would guess would control, being worldwide pretty much the most important, more or less.

Poland and Russia interestingly are the opposite ends (culturally I mean) of Slavs, also with the most animosity.

@RussianAntiPutin

Nice post!
Yes, Crow is crazy!

British and French were overseas empires (the colonies are 'over there') the US has never been a true empire (the only classic style colony was the Philippines temporarily).

At the beginning of the 20th century there were three dynastic contiguous empires (with no firm geographic boundary between the core territory and the colonies).

They were the Hapsburgs, the Ottomans and the Romanovs WWI was precisely about dismantling them since none of them served any good purpose. The Hapsburgs and Ottomans were dismantled but the Romanovs mutated into an incredibly ugly (and arguabluy worse) new empire aka the Soviet Union, which mutated into the kleptocratic and thugocratic neo-Tsardom of today....

The only positive contribution russia was making to the modern world was commodity exports and putin has ruined that.... the world will have to learn to live without russia as it is now and the people(s) of russia will have to discover new forms of government before they can rejoin the brotherhood of nations....

Yes. It will take time like years or it is going to happen quickly like a few months.

However, the process has already started. The RuSSist army is seriously weakened by heroic Ukrainian defence and Kremlin bandits won`t be able to contain all separatist movements in Russia.

Look at it - a clever move by Ukrainian Parliament.

A bill was published on the website of the #Ukrainian parliament proposing to recognize the independence of the #Chechen Republic of #Ichkeria. It was initiated by the deputies Oleksiy @GoncharenkoUa and Musa Mahomedov.

When more countries adopt such bills, Chechens will feel obliged to overthrow Kadyrov and declare independence. And RuSSists, engaged in Ukraine, won`t be able to do anything. HA!

The story of the rabbits, who were genuinely proud to live in such a beautiful place, and to love each other, comes to mind. And only in the last seconds of their lives did they discover the truth, that it was a farm, and they were bred for meat and pelts. ;)

These Polish rabbits haven't realized anything yet, although a London farmer is slaughtering a Ukrainian paddock before their eyes. ;)

lol~!
You like fairy stories that suppose to have a deep meaning when in fact it just a crude threat.
There was a big bear that have been robbing honey from the bees. Was laughing at their small stings and was brazely enjoying its loot. One day the bear robbed bees that a human was tending and the bear to his shock and horror got a huge sting up his rectum and that was its end.

I can do it too.

what else does russia have?

no diplomacy, no tact, no honor.... just crude threats

useless excuse for a country, time to split it up into more reasonable pieces....

Every liberal is convinced that any attempt to restrict his right to preach his agenda is criminal by definition. But there are various lunatics with alternative views whose actions are dangerous to society and to the existing cozy world order in which good people kill bad people. ;)

Historically papacy had biggest interest in it. With its missionary work. If Serbian Nemanjic dynasty didn`t refused dictate of the Pope and opted for Orthodoxy at the moment when Byzantine was weak (what enabled our autonomous Church), Balkan Serbs would like the Poles become enemies of Russians. Or, Russians would themselves subjugate to the Pope by following Serbs. Then all Slavs would be germanized. Germanization was inevitable tool of papacy because resources were on the East of Europe and Russia and elitistic societies on the West of Europe. Only germanization provided loyalty of the populace. After all, pro-Germanic agenda set papacy on the course of collision with the Anglos, too.

Missionary work of the papacy created problem in Ukraine, too, inventing Greco-Catholics. By same recipe as on Balkan.

See, it was not problem to have Catholicism and Orthodoxy. It could coexists. Look Polish-Serbian relations. Problem was missionary work and disturbance created by the papacy. It pushed Slavs onto Slavs, Serbs vs Serbs, Russians vs Russians. All with final aim to germanize us all. Spot Croat nazis, Ukrainian nazis, Baltic nazis. See? Always hint of germanization. Well, after all, think of Teutonic order. Papal invention.

Good chances to survive upcoming crisis and become stronger. ;)

no... the russian serfs are weak and passive, they hunger for the feel of the lash on their back

why are russians like that? don't they have any self-respect? they just let the tsar kill them by the truckload and steal from the rest and keep them in poverty and ignorance... and somehow they don't mind?

worthless culture...

@Crow
Your hatred towards the church is appaling, just as your paranoid mind basing your convictions on poor knowledge.

Teutonic order was created for the purpose of escorting pilgrims to the Holy land (just like other crusader orders).

After the drawbacks of crusades in holy land they relocated to Hungary, then to Masovia. So at first it was created with the purpose of defending pilgrims and not the destruction of slavs...

Also with regard to religion, your mixing politics into it. You are disregarding the religious element of it, leading to failure of understanding the problem of having a non-religious leader deciding religious doctrine (abusing it = not keeping himself to the truth)

It all correlates with your lack of faith in catholics being filled with the holy ghost, which a clear indication of you not being a christian. So with your anti-church attitude it is very clear who you serve and what your aim is, destruction of mankind and opposing God, Gods creation and Gods gift to mankind.

If you think that Orthodox and Catholics can live side by side forever, it means your aim is not salvation of mankind nor positively looking on the church spreading it's faith and influence and again wishes ill and damnation of as many humans as possible to hell.

You are despicable

Russophrenia - a condition where the sufferer believes Russia is both about to collapse, and take over the world.

;)

russia can't even take over Ukraine, let alone the world

but... russia in its cackfisted attempts to feel important by invading other countries will kill a lot of innocent civilians... are you proud of that?

russian 'culture' is lies, theft and violence - all the russian state is capable of at present and the weak and passive russian citizens just let the mafia bleed them dry and whine about not being able to change anything

before february I didn't think much about russia, but every single thing I've found out about what makes russia tick is loathesome...

nasty thug culture and the worst government in the world.... I can't wait to be able to simply ignore it again

And you are not despicable but rather fanatical.

To put it simple. No, Vatican didn`t have right to penetrate into Ukraine where already lived Orthodox believers and jurisdiction of Orthodox Church. Why not? Because penetration inevitable meant conflict. Vatican knew this, so Vatican is responsible for conflict. Plain and simple. Vatican`s missionary work have nothing to do with the God and Christ but with very material things. Its manipulation with religion motivated by the greed. Usual Vatican`t methods, from all over the Europe and world, Balkans, Ukraine, etc.

Papacy is nothing but another Comintern. No, worse then Comintern. Rich people, absolutely devoid from humanity, sit and contemplate what to do to make this world more controllable by them with aim to be even more rich.

Better be fanatical, living in truth and siding with the church, then living in lies, blaspheming and downgrading what can't be downgraded as only God can rule the church, no matter what you write or think, same with any emperor or ignorants/critics.

The church has a divine right to evangelise, meaning performing missionary work, especially where it's lacking. It's called being responsible, and you can keep your BS greed/materials propaganda too yourself.

Nobody is forcing you to give the church anything, far from it.

And if personal sacrifice is such a foreign concept to you. Why do you even bother about what the church is doing?

fanatical christian doesn't sound much better than fanatical muslim, if you ask me - there were bombings of abortion clinics in the US by fanatical christians and if I recall correctly there have been casualities involved

No, you are wrong. Anything can be vulgarized. Brainwashing by the communism, liberalism, nazism or religion lead to same result. War and hate.

Vatican`s manipulation with religion goes behind level of bestiality. Such a behavior endangers Christianity.


I am merely a Christian. In attempt at least. I arising my voice against aggressive nature of Vatican that killing innocent and therefore stand against God, Christ and His Mother.

Many time on many places Vatican committed crimes against humanity. Its maybe time to be put on a trial.

@gumishu
How would you react if there were people cutting guilotines from being used, even as far as killing henchmen?

@Crow
Lack of unity and living lies threatens Christianity, I ask again... why do you bother with the church?

sorry, could you rephrase the question somehow? - I just couldn't understand what you mean

Bible says every human is a temple. I defend my temple from any evil. Even from the evil that possessed the Church.

In 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, ... "Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."

Try to figure out, how many time was needed to take Ukraine during WWII, with full mobilisation.

then why doesn't putin call for full mobilization? is it because he's afraid?

despicable dishonest excuse for a country....