"The concept of the European Union's two-speed programme is, in fact, breaking up the EU," Kaczyński said.
So, when can we expect Poland to join the Euro, or to accept refugees?
The two-speed programme makes perfect sense. It's exactly this push towards forcing everyone to go along with deeper integration that led to Brexit in the first place, and so there should be suitable systems in place so that countries can integrate more if they want to, while others can stay out of it if it doesn't suit them. Of course, those that integrate more should receive more benefits for doing so.
"It is deceptive and manipulative to suggest that Poland's governing Law and Justice party wants to take the country out of the EU," he replied.
I think we all know that this is exactly their game. Kaczyński is a master of saying one thing and doing something different.