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Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations


pawian
23 Feb 2024 #511
But Polish gov haven`t -

- We cannot, by helping Ukraine, sacrifice the fundamental interests of large groups of people in Europe, especially here in Poland, said Prime Minister Donald Tusk after a conversation with the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, assuring that the protesting Polish farmers are not anti-Ukrainian.

Ironside and all other rabid critics, kneel down before the Saviour who takes care of Poland like nobody else before.
Print out and hang his portrait over your beds to say prayers for and to him.



Alien
23 Feb 2024 #512
Poles claim they stick to the date arranged earlier, ie 28 February.

As you can see, Poles have time and Ukrainians don't, the ground is burning under their feet (literally).
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #513
As you can see, Poles have time

Each side has a point. They have to meet in the middle of the spy exchange bridge.
Alien
23 Feb 2024 #514
They have to meet in the middle of the spy exchange bridge.

In the fog.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #516
In the fog.

And film makers will turn it into an excellent thriller in the future..

certified lunatic.

Not certified yet. But I am working on it. hahahahaha buhahahaha
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #517
Ukrainian PM and his ministers have come to the border to run crash negotiations. But Polish gov haven`t

Ukrainian government is made of clowns.

If I was Ukrainian, I would be deeply embarrassed.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #518
Ukrainian government

Of course. And the moon is inhabited by funny creatures called lunatics. Some of them visit Earth for more fun.
Any other revelations???? hahahaha

I would be deeply embarrassed.

I would be deeply embarassed if I were imperial Russian.
Alien
23 Feb 2024 #519
And the moon is inhabited by funny creatures called lunatics.

How do you know, I haven't told anyone about it.
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #520
Any other revelations???? hahahaha

How can you send your ENTIRE CABINET to a f*cking border, when the other side doesn't even plan to show up? One has to have no self respect.

For whose benefit are these theatrics?

This is not a gang war between the N'drangheta and Cosa Nostra, or Sinaloa and Juarez Cartels. Who came up with this idea of "sit downs" at the border?

Zelensky is living some Hollywood reality.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #521
For whose benefit are these theatrics?

For the benefit of Ukrainian voters who can see that their gov is doing sth and working on the problem. It is called domestic politics if you didn`t know. They pressed on the border meeting but Poles refused to comply. Now Ukrainians know that they have to back down on their demands.
Novichok
23 Feb 2024 #522
How can you send your ENTIRE CABINET to a f*cking border,

...or put your entire government on a single plane...

Ukrainian government is made of clowns.

Do you mean the clowns in the DC or Kiev?
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #523
entire government

It didn`t happen. :):):)
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #524
For the benefit of Ukrainian voters who can see that their gov is doing sth and working on the problem.

They are not idiots, instead they see that their government is displaying to the whole world that they are idiots.

No matter how much I hate Poroshenko, I could never imagine him debasing himself like a dog in the manner in which Zelensky is doing it.

What's more, Tusk is the last person in front of which you want to get on your knees.

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Can you imagine the President of Mexico, sending his entire cabinet of ministers to the US border, to urgently plea with Biden to reopen it? No.

Can you imagine the president of Mexico sending the highest ranking delegation possible, even after Biden told him he sees no point in meeting, and that he will not be sending anyone?

I think even Mexicans have enough self respect not to do that.

When Donald Trump announced that he will make Mexico pay for a wall - this was the response of Vicente Fox:

"I'm not going to pay for the f**king wall," Fox said. "And please don't take out the f**king full word."

Bottom line: if you believe you are right, stop acting like a b*tch.
Alien
23 Feb 2024 #525
It didn`t happen

Jarosław was missing.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #526
Tusk is the last person.

Why??????????????????

Jarosław

He wasn`t the entire cabinet.
Novichok
23 Feb 2024 #527
Bottom line: if you believe you are right, stop acting like a b*tch.

...or a typical PF Euro bootlicker...
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #528
Why?

Because he is a liar?

Because he is a small man?

He's not serving in love for Poland, but through hate towards Kaczynski.

Where his heart is became clear after he came into power. Small man, small heart.

Instead of being President for all Poles, he's busy getting even.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #529
Instead of being President for all Poles

That`s Duda, not Tusk. .... :):):)
It clearly shows you don`t know what and who you are talking about now. :):):)

As for Tusk, yes, homo sovieticuses and rightist azholes are certainly disappointed with The Saviour coz he is a decent intelligent person. Also, imperial Russians are extremely disappointed coz he is a true Polish patriot.

he's busy getting even.

BS. He is cleaning the PIS swamp which has been destroying Poland for 8 years.

All in all, any other revelations which I don`t know of???????? :):):)
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #530
It clearly shows you don`t know what and who you are talking about now. :):):)

:)))

Yes, I made a momentary mistake in nomenclature.

I don't read Polish press, except on occasion. Everything I know about your situation is through Politico, FT, Spiegel-type places.

For example, this week, the Financial Times "Big Read" was about Tusk. Even the English are worried, if he's being driven too much by vengeance.

Look at this headline, and tell me I'm imagining things:



pawian
23 Feb 2024 #531
Yes, I made a momentary mistake in nomenclature

Not only. You have also made a mistake about duties. It isn`t Tusk`s task as a Prime Minister to be the politician of all Poles. It is President`s obligation.

I don't read Polish press, except on occasion.

That is why I said you don`t know what you are talking about.

Look at this headline, and tell me I'm imagining things:

And similarly, when you see headlines about Russia and Putin in your Western sources, you also believe them instantly???? hahahaha buhahahahaha
Bobko, ja pierdolę, ale się dałeś złapać. Współczuję Ci. :):):):)
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #532
Poland needs young people in power.

People Grunnie's age, my age.

ja pierdolę

Ahaha, so you admit Western coverage of Russia is garbage?
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #533
Western coverage of Russia is garbage?

No, I can`t admit it coz it isn`t garbage, it is all true. I meant your changeable beliefs, not the quality of Western media. hahahaha

I got you. :):):)
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #534
I was talking about your changeable beliefs

The mark of an intelligent man, and not an old goat.
Novichok
23 Feb 2024 #535
Poland needs young people in power.

My 14-year-old gd would be a better US president. All she would have to do is ask me or Putin what to do...
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #536
My 14-year-old gd would be a better US president.

Ages of the Founding Fathers on July 4, 1776:

James Monroe, 18
Aaron Burr, 20
Alexander Hamilton, 21
James Madison, 25
Thomas Jefferson, 33
John Adams, 40
Paul Revere, 41
George Washington, 44

Somehow, a bunch of 20-30 year olds, created the most powerful country in history.

Now two 80 year old geezers are gonna sink it.
pawian
23 Feb 2024 #537
The mark of an intelligent man

But still quite amasing. When reading about Tusk, you accept everything what they write. When reading about Putin, you reject it.
A cock on the roof???
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #538
When reading about Tusk, you accept everything what they write

Why would they lie about him, in the same way they lie about Putin?

Putin scares them. Putin represents what they hate.

Tusk is their Golden Boy. The "human" face of Poland. The European bureaucrat, and champion of liberalism.

So when they write not good things about him, it tells me Pan Tusk is making many unforced errors.
Ironside
23 Feb 2024 #539
Pan Tusk i

Ginger Hooy as he is called in Poland.
OP Bobko
23 Feb 2024 #540
Ginger

Yes, many people in Russia think he's not a Pole at all.

Looks like a German.

After Morawiecki, we don't try to understand Polish genetics, however)

If Morawiecki is Polish, then everybody is Polish.


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