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Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government


Ironside 50 | 11,260
10 Jan 2013 #421
Your knowledge about the subject is alarmingly low. Stop talking about things you have no idea of.

Oh shut up! The only reason you are supporting that reform is because it was made by the PO!
The only reason they did it was to appease one of the many cliques which support them - teachers from ZNP! There is not enough children to keep those old geezers employed. So that make six years old go to school to improve teachers income.

There is nothing that indicated it has been done to ensure development of the children. In fact schools aren't ready for six years old and after all this talk about special preparation and treatment they will be just herded along as any seven years old.

You are that kind of person peewee, you are just ready to say any BS or lie just to protect your ass. Miserable Soviets, thanks to people like you Poland is going to the dogs.

Even tons of books written by Soviets and their spawn cannot change the fact that most of their so called wisdom is just BS!

over 1 million in Britain (my guess is 1.4 million)

Is your guess just pure gasworks or you have some cue?
I'm if that only guess and we must trust your judgment tell us at least is your luck any good?
Did you win lottery or something
Lenka 3 | 2,630
10 Jan 2013 #422
The only reason they did it was to appease one of the many cliques which support them - teachers from ZNP! There is not enough children to keep those old geezers employed. So that make six years old go to school to improve teachers income.

You know that in kindergardens you also have teachers?Also that some of them are in ZNP?
Zibi - | 336
10 Jan 2013 #423
Oh Lord.... PIS followers are frustrated indeed! :-)
goofy_the_dog
10 Jan 2013 #424
Yeah Zibi!
The revolution will start soon, and I as a PiS follower shall be seen on the frontline :D !
Ironside 50 | 11,260
10 Jan 2013 #425
Oh Lord.... PIS followers are frustrated indeed! :-)

Oh did you visit toiled today if not I think it is a high time!

Those PO worshipers, they lost ability to debate, they just spawn rubbish and spread it thick.....!

You know that in kindergardens you also have teachers

So? There is more children than kindergartens. Toddler minding will always be in high demand.

Also that some of them are in ZNP?

So?
Lenka 3 | 2,630
10 Jan 2013 #426
So? There is more children than kindergartens. Toddler minding will always be in high demand.

So?

So how come they were to

appease one of the many cliques which support them

when what they did was only "changing group" not producing more children?
David_18 68 | 982
10 Jan 2013 #427
2 millions are temporarily living abroad it is very probable that well over 1 million in Britain (my guess is 1.4 million)

579,000 Polish-born (2011 Census)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_migration_to_the_United_Kingdom

Next time back up your facts troll
goofy_the_dog
10 Jan 2013 #428
Wow!
Are you stupid, wikipedia is one of the least reliable sources! Oo You bloody troll!!!
David_18 68 | 982
10 Jan 2013 #429
It's very reliable, now shut it ;)
Ironside 50 | 11,260
10 Jan 2013 #430
So how come they were to
Ironside:
appease one of the many cliques which support them
when what they did was only "changing group" not producing more children?

Is it me? I try again.
We are talking about schools not about toddler minding - lets focus!
In schools due to general decrease of the number of children there are shortages of pupils.
As you well know the government of Poland is not going to support classes with five or eight children. Schools will be closed and integrated. Yet you need only certain number of teachers.

It stands to logic if you make from two schools - one!
The rest of the teachers are redundant.
If you make six years attend the school you increase number of children and thus prolong employment for some teachers and most importantly for the head master.

Are you stupid, wikipedia is one of the least reliable sources! Oo You bloody troll!!!

It is census 2011 not wiki
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goofy_the_dog
10 Jan 2013 #431
Hmm... because Poland is dying out, in forty years from now with the prognosis that we have now, from 38.8 million people Poland will go down to 32 million people sad but true.

That is why the government is trying to merge up kids, in couple of years a lot of kindergartners will be just empty because there will be too few children to attend them... yet

Instead of raising becikowe, giving people with lots of children better housing etc, to increase the population growth, Tusk is just saving money.
What kind of a PM would do that?? I guess only in Poland and only by Tusk :)

Cheers
pawian 178 | 15,909
10 Jan 2013 #432
Instead of raising becikowe, giving people with lots of children better housing etc, to increase the population growth, Tusk is just saving money.

Stop making a fool of yourself. Your arguments are infantile. In which country are people given better housing from the state when they have lots of children?
gumishu 11 | 5,692
10 Jan 2013 #433
In which country are people given better housing from the state when they have lots of children?

In Britain :)
jon357 67 | 16,831
10 Jan 2013 #434
In which country are people given better housing from the state when they have lots of children?

Even in the UK which in theory has good social housing, there are still huge problems finding places for larger families to live and a high level of overcrowding in London.
gumishu 11 | 5,692
10 Jan 2013 #435
The first year is supposed to be a mix of kindergarden and shool.And besides it's just geography-children had to learn since 6 yo and now the only change is that they will do it at school.Of course the main problem is to prepare shools for that.

Kindergartens are already prepared for 6 year olds - they can learn and they can play - like in Finland - what is the whole point of moving the kindergarten to school - in my opinion null
pawian 178 | 15,909
10 Jan 2013 #436
What`s wrong? I cannot open page 16 and read newest posts.

I am writing this cry for help from page 15.
pawian 178 | 15,909
18 Jun 2021 #437
they've managed to keep Jaroslaw Kaczynski out of power successfully.

Yes, as long as Tusk remained in Poland. When he left for Brussels in 2014, PiS came to power.

Now the rumour has it Tusk is coming back to lead PO again. Of course, lead to victory over PiS. :):)

Tusk is returning on a white horse, to save Poland from neobolsheviks, just like General Anders was expected to after WW2 to save Poland from communists.



Ironside 50 | 11,260
19 Jun 2021 #438
Tusk

The only achievement of PO gov is Tusk got a sinecure in Brussels. How he paid for that? Well Poland and Poles paid for that.

Tusk is not coming back, why would he? there is no money in that for him..
amiga500 2 | 568
19 Jun 2021 #439
Tusk is returning on a white horse, to save Poland from neobolsheviks,

Do you want to put your money where your baboon mouth is and place a bet on that? say 50 pounds?
pawian 178 | 15,909
19 Jun 2021 #440
Tusk is not coming back,

I presume ...

place a bet on that?

.. you are doubtful. Let`s wait and see.
pawian 178 | 15,909
30 Jun 2021 #441
Tusk is expected to appear at PO convention this Saturday. He already persuaded the current Chairman Budka to resign so that Tusk can take the leadership. However, a few other young PO leaders, especially Trzaskowski, don`t want to see Tusk back.

Funny things are going to happen soon.
mafketis 29 | 9,513
30 Jun 2021 #442
a few other young PO leaders, especially Trzaskowski, don`t want to see Tusk back

I'm with Trzaskowski (I'm not a stan or anything but he's about the best they've got at the moment). Tusk has had his day and I really don't think he has much to contribute anymore. He needs to retire in dignity.
pawian 178 | 15,909
30 Jun 2021 #443
He needs to retire in dignity.

You can be right about it.

Personally, I have no fixed opinion yet.

Or I do have - it is going to be more amusing than now. We`ll see interesting situations when Tusk bashes Kaczyński and the other way round. :):)



mafketis 29 | 9,513
30 Jun 2021 #444
Tusk bashes Kaczyński and the other way round. :):)

Old men spitting and clawing at each other.... isn't there enough of that on this forum?
pawian 178 | 15,909
30 Jun 2021 #445
this forum?

What ? You are mixing Polish politics with a discussion forum??? :):):) Surprising, I must say.
Besides, we need topics for discussion, don`t we??
Ironside 50 | 11,260
1 Jul 2021 #446
young PO leaders, especially Trzaskowski,

lol! How come he is young?
pawian 178 | 15,909
1 Jul 2021 #447
How? He`s only 49. When you are 75 one day, you will certainly wish to be younger, e.g., 49. :):)

Besides, you should know there is tension and struggle for power between "young" and "elderly" politicians in PO.
mafketis 29 | 9,513
1 Jul 2021 #448
Now the shoe dropped.

I'm wondering if Tusk mentioning the idea of a comeback (that almost no one wants) is his way of getting Trzaskowski to step up to the plate and take over PO rather than spinning his wheels with some new formation?
pawian 178 | 15,909
1 Jul 2021 #449
is his way of getting Trzaskowski

I read one hypothesis which sounds interesting - Tusk is going to reclaim conservative voters while Trzaskowski`s role is to attract those liberal ones, even leftists. :):) They are both planning to rob the Left of their voters.
pawian 178 | 15,909
3 Jul 2021 #450
Tusk is not coming back

Your predictions proved useless.

place a bet on that? say 50 pounds?

You would lose 50 pounds today.

TUSK THE CURSE AND HAMMER OF PIS BANDITS IS BACK!!!! hahahaha


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