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Are Polish roads really this bad?


Recee 1 | 9
16 Jun 2011 #121
Noo, I do not know.

You got it sth, but misunderstood. What does "under construction" make sense to you ?
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
16 Jun 2011 #122
You got it sth, but misunderstood. What does "under construction" make sense to you ?

Meaning you won't complain next year.
Recee 1 | 9
16 Jun 2011 #123
Yeah, exactly :))
wildrover 98 | 4,451
16 Jun 2011 #124
There was war in Poland. Don`t you know about it?

When...??? Who won...?

And who bombed the roads to bits...?
isthatu2 4 | 2,703
16 Jun 2011 #125
After all, I like Warschau :)

Id start calling it something else TBH.....that version tends to have links to another Austrian who paid a visit a few decades ago.....:)

And who bombed the roads to bits...?

It was a brit stag party,those savages!!!!
Recee 1 | 9
16 Jun 2011 #126
Id start calling it something else TBH.....that version tends to have links to another Austrian who paid a visit a few decades ago.....:)

Sth else ? Like what ? (You had better speak clearly.)

Yeah yeah, I am talking about not only few decades ago, but also b.c.e ;)

2.bp.blogspot.com/_3Ulxxbl2MFE/TSin0w_4S2I/AAAAAAAAACE/GiWpgIIUyno/s1600/img_3289.jpg]

Time Machine :D

It is asked If roads in Poland are bad or not. That's all. You're supposed to answer 'Yes or No.' Also, in 2nd page, some pics were added. But you talk about sth else.

War .. ? Yeah I know. 5 mins ago I played Call of Duty :D
Palivec - | 380
16 Jun 2011 #127
And who bombed the roads to bits...?

You mean, otherwise we would drive on 80yo roads today???

Back to topic: the roads aren't that bad. Polands biggest problem is the lack of highways, which makes long distance drives a torture, especially because of reckless driving.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
16 Jun 2011 #128
Back to topic: the roads aren't that bad.

Yes joking aside , i agree with you....

The roads in Poland are far from perfect , but having driven in Russia , Ukraine and Belarus i have to say they are pretty good....

My friends from Denmark who are visiting Poland on Motorcycles were a little bit shocked at the state of Polish roads , but they will get used to it soon enough....

Driving from my home in Pomerania all the way to Kiev i found pretty good roads all the way....untill i got to Ukraine...now there is a good example of bad roads.....!
pawian 181 | 17,077
16 Jun 2011 #129
And who bombed the roads to bits...?

Talibs, of course.
EdWilczynski 3 | 98
16 Jun 2011 #130
Warschau

Warschau????

Wash your mouth out with soap and water son!!
pawian 181 | 17,077
16 Jun 2011 #131
Why? What is wrong with Festung Warschau?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festung_Warschau
Ironside 51 | 11,510
16 Jun 2011 #132
So, why is that?

gee, due to corruption - no wonder that all hate Kaczynski because he was going after corrupted!
Recee 1 | 9
16 Jun 2011 #133
Warschau????

Wash your mouth out with soap and water son!!

Hey, man are you crazy ? What is your problem ? What's wrong with Warschau ?

I believe that you are totally ignorant. You just sit in front of the your computer and talking through my hat.

I wish somebody taught you there is no difference between Warschau, Warsaw, Warszawa. All them are same. In german, it is called Warschau. In Poland, Polish, you call it Warszawa.. Sooo ??

Do you know what I am thinking now ? Poland is really nice country in spite of some problems, i.e roads. But because of you and like you, people have some bad idea about Poland.

Though, If I said something wrong, you could be more polite and explain it why it was wrong.

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(Other names for Warsaw include Warschau (German and Dutch), Varšava (Slovak, Czech, Latvian, Slovenian, Serbian and Croatian), Варшава/Varshava (Bulgarian, Macedonian, Russian and Serbian), Varšuva (Lithuanian), Varsovia (Spanish and Latin), Varsovie (French), Varsó (Hungarian), Varsavia (Italian), וואַרשע/Varshe (Yiddish), ורשה/Varsha (Hebrew), Varşovia (Romanian), Varsóvia (Portuguese), Varssavi (Estonian), Varsova (Finnish), Varsjava (Faroese), 华沙 (Simplified Chinese), 華沙 (Traditional Chinese), ワルシャワ (Japanese), 바르샤바 (Korean), (Greek), and Վարշավա (Armenian)... I know that it is the first time you've seen these. )
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
16 Jun 2011 #134
What's wrong with Warschau ?

This is simply the name we Poles do not particularly like. The English name is Warsaw.
Recee 1 | 9
16 Jun 2011 #135
Thanks lot. That's all. :))

EdWilczynski, you were supposed to say this one.

I respect you, yet I did not say swear word, just I told Warschau. He might kindly tell me.
Antek_Stalich 5 | 997
16 Jun 2011 #136
I made myself no problem with Warschau since I was more interested in what you had had to say about the roads, Recee ;)
viccy68
17 Jun 2011 #137
Why? What is wrong with Festung Warschau?

Mmmn, Both complaints come from Englishmen.

Divide et impera, eh boys ;)
THE HITMAN - | 236
17 Jun 2011 #138
Wait! Poland has Chinese companies building the roads? Polish engineers can't do it?

Polish engineers still have not mastered HOW NOT to construct potential death-traps. Choice is, either smash into a tree or wind up overturned in a ditch. Not to forget the cambers are all cock-eyed also. A well known example of this is the main drag from Krakow to Zakopane.... Notorious !

As for the quality of the road surfaces, that,s why they use cheap foreign companies, so they can pass the buck.
May I add, it makes no difference who, how, or why, the onus is on the government to oversee and be responsible for the end product.

due to corruption

Good point. One reason for the failings.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
17 Jun 2011 #139
As for the quality of the road surfaces, that,s why they use cheap foreign companies, so they can pass the buck.

Uh, it's called public tendering.

The flaws of which are apparent to anyone with half a brain, though it's not Poland's fault.

no wonder that all hate Kaczynski because he was going after corrupted!

You mean, he was going after those who weren't supporters of PiS.

Ask yourself Ironside, why did he never get locked up? Who was protecting him?
THE HITMAN - | 236
17 Jun 2011 #140
Uh, it's called public tendering.

I certainly don,t take the lowest quote when putting out to tender. That,s asking for trouble.
I thought you were a businessman ? ......... " anyone with half a brain " ?

though it's not Poland's fault.

Then tell me who you would blame ?
Would you pay for shoddy workmanship ?
If your own personal company f...s up, do you blame your employees. No delph, you,re the boss, so the buck stops with you.
pawian 181 | 17,077
17 Jun 2011 #141
Hey, man are you crazy ? What is your problem ? What's wrong with Warschau ?

Nothing. It is a nice city and for the comfort of tourists, many important facilities are described in foreign languages:

fotopolska.eu/foto/132/132432.jpg
OP rybnik 18 | 1,461
30 Jun 2011 #142
Just got back from a short trip to Europe and I have to say the Czech and Hungarian roads we rode on were very good (Prague-Vienna-Budapeszt-Munich)

How's the A4 - the stretch from Wroclaw to Rybnik in particular?
Wroclaw Boy
12 Jul 2011 #143
Give me Polish roads and Polish drivers, over the M25 traffic jams and British road rage, any day of the week.

He yeah, i had the pleasure of being crammed south bound (past junction M4-Heathrow) on the M25 at 17:30 a couple of weeks ago. The motorway congestion in the UK is just astonishing. British road rage is an issue too, theres some cheeky mofo's out there.

I'd have to say i preferred driving on the Polish roads, even when there was an accident you could always drive around it, having said that i lived in the country, Wroclaw was getting worse and worse congestion wise. Just too many road improvements all at the same time.

How's the A4 - the stretch from Wroclaw to Rybnik in particular?

Its marvelous, watch out for truck drivers pulling out at low speeds. You can pretty much 140 KPH all the way and no tolls.
Harry
12 Jul 2011 #144
The motorway congestion in the UK is just astonishing.

Yes but Brits can not match Poles when it comes to inventiveness with regard to traffic jams. Last week I was driving to Lublin and at 6.30pm there was a four kilometre long (measured on satnav) tailback for a roundabout where on main road met a fairly minor one!
OP rybnik 18 | 1,461
24 Aug 2011 #145
Can government(Polish) force citizens to sell their property in the name of the public good? eg to build/widen a road?
ie eminent domain - usa; compulsory purchase - uk
gumishu 11 | 5,857
24 Aug 2011 #146
yes - but only since quite recently (2008)
Monia
24 Aug 2011 #147
recently (2008)

The land changes its status under the provisions of Law established in 2006 and becomes immediately the state`s property right after the decision of the localization`s establishment of the inwestment is issued upon the Law established on 18.10.2006 .
AussieSheila 5 | 75
24 Aug 2011 #148
I drove from Warsaw-Bialystok-Lublin-Rezszow-Krakow back to Warsaw via Czechostowa. Overall the roads are pretty good, for Poland. Warsaw-Bialystok is very good (two way lanes for both sides with median strips, no risk of head on collision) for about 2/3. Lots of constructions of highways along that section too. Bialystok to Lublin is OK but very dangerous because it is single lane bothways and there is extreme high risk of head on collision while overtaking as it is impossible to overtake without driving on the opposite lane. The road is simply too small for that section.

Lublin to Rezszow is very bad for about 10-20 km, there is a danger of your vehicle floor touching the hump of the road because the tyre tracks have sunk so much in the road. But 70% of it is OK and some sections very good(highways quality)

Rezszow to Krakow is a nightmare because of too many constructions or roads damaged for repairs. But thats a good sign as constructions will be completed in a year or so. Krakow to Wroclow all the way to Germany is a breeze thanks to the expressway with toll and freeway.

I saw lots of crosses erected along the roads and my friend told me thats where people had accident and died. I'm not particularly suprised as all Polish drivers insist on overtaking me even though I was driving 10-20 km above speed limit most of the time.

Apart from the need for speed driving (99.99% of them exceed speed limits at all times), I found Polish drivers to be polite and considerate to other drivers and are quite happy to give way (particularly lorry and bus drivers). I drove about 1500 kms and I saw a cop once riding a motorcycle outside the cities doing patrol.
sascha 1 | 826
24 Aug 2011 #149
Overall the roads are pretty good, for Poland.

what does that mean? how r the 'roads' in the australian outback?? ;)
Sebastian 6 | 108
25 Aug 2011 #150
Wash your mouth out with soap and water son!!

Please don't be a hypocrite. Polish people do the same thing. Why do you call Vilnius, Wilno, and Lviv, lwow? Warsaw, Warszawa, Warschau, its the same damn thing, just different language.


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