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Wish to settle down, which country to choose - Poland or Russia?


Lenka 5 | 3,481
9 Aug 2022 #61
Sorry but it's hard to believe your Polish was more comprehensible than her English when you can't even spell her name properly.
Bobko 25 | 2,069
9 Aug 2022 #62
@Lyzko

Wow! Whenever I think you could not possibly be more obtuse - you surprise by achieving evermore breathtaking levels of stupidity. I studied English exclusively through non-native academic types that you seem to hate so much, until I finally arrived in the United States. In my time here, there's been many occasions where I had to correct the locals regarding grammar and proper terminology.

The idioms that you hold up as an indicator of an unachievable level of authenticity, need only be explained once.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,957
9 Aug 2022 #63
Sorry but it's hard to believe your Polish was more comprehensible than her English when you can't even spell her name properly.

Lol!!!!!!
Kashub1410 6 | 689
9 Aug 2022 #64
@Lenka
Post #62 portrays perfectly what motives a person to master the art of the Polish language. It's incomprehensable to understand the level of satisfaction for anyone who hasn't touched the Polish language
mafketis 37 | 10,898
9 Aug 2022 #65
attempting to make
normal small talk with a Polish woman

I get the problem of someone trying to practice not very good English on you (I remember a frustrating conversation or two where the other person clearly wasn't listening but planning what to say next...)

But small talk is about more than grammar....

For one thing Szczecin did not have a beautiful old town.... The one time I was there (mid 90s) it looked pretty beaten up, some potentially nice buildings but very poorly maintained - I heard one theory they kept it a bit run down so as not to be tempting to Germans but I don't know about that.

Poland had some very nice old towns at the time but Szczecin didn't... it doesn't even have any kind of old market square.... it's more an old town in name than fact.

Your interlocutor surely knew Szczecin is not an old town kind of place and probably didn't appreciate you trying to talk it up (and may have felt patronized).
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
10 Aug 2022 #66
@Maf,
In my opinion, Szczecin DID have a pleasant looking Old Town. The point again though,
is that her reactions were clearly marred by cross-cultural interference!

Had she actually understood what I was saying, she might have answered with
"You think so, Mark? I guess I'm so used to it." or "Well, it's not my favorite spot.."
and the like.

@Lenka,
It may be hard for you to actually conceive of a young American who spoke on various
levels of Polish, but by the same token why should I believe you or any other poster
here on PF? Certain facts we merely take on faith. Furthermore, I'd already mentioned
in prior posts that my Polish was nowhere nearly as practiced as it is now. On the other hand, her
English was basically limited to American-style vulgarity and riddled with errors.....which I politely overlooked,
I might add.

K-R-Y-S-Z-T-I-N-A. Merely a typo the other day.

@Bobko, I fail to grasp what you find so "stupid" in my post, but I'm sure I will LOL
mafketis 37 | 10,898
10 Aug 2022 #67
Szczecin DID have a pleasant looking Old Town

Not compared to Wrocław or Poznań or Kraków or Toruń or even Warsaw's rebuilt "old town" (my favorite part isn't the main square but the second square (rynek nowego miasta)...

Buildings are still same age as other buildings,

I don't even think of Szczecin has having an "old town"....and after doing some quick google street view I agree with her - so in a way she's making sense here.
Lenka 5 | 3,481
10 Aug 2022 #68
@Lenka,
It may be hard for you to actually conceive of a young American who spoke on various

It's not that. I have no problem believing that an American can speak very good Polish. I think for example Maf is speaking much better Polish that he lets on.

K-R-Y-S-Z-T-I-N-A. Merely a typo the other day.

Not a typo since it's Krystyna
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
10 Aug 2022 #69
Thanks, Lenka! Yes, of course. I ought to have remembered if for none other than
sheer mnemonic reasons cf. "Krystyna"/"JustYna", whereby a "y" always succeeds
a "t" in native Polish names, never an "i" as in Italian or Spanish.

True. Maf knows very good Polish and his English
explanations of orthographic as well as grammar stuff
aren't too shabby either:-)

Please stick to the topic
Alien 20 | 5,017
11 Aug 2022 #70
I can't imagine anyone wanting to settle down in Russia at the moment.
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
11 Aug 2022 #71
Nor can I.
I understand though that Ukraine is currently
looking for English teachers.
Now I understand how Ukrainians seemed
to have no language barriers when crossing
over into Poland or Germany. They used the
"Speak & Translate" app almost exclusively:-)
mafketis 37 | 10,898
11 Aug 2022 #72
"Speak & Translate" app almost exclusively:-)

I've seen them use phone apps in the local supermarket to translate labels...
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
11 Aug 2022 #73
Yes, as well as at border crossing areas! Frequently,
the very young would translate for their parents into English for the customs officials,
rather than into Polish and German.

In Germany, I read that the recent arrivals would simply use
the app for daily transactions:-)
Miloslaw 19 | 4,957
11 Aug 2022 #74
I've seen them use phone apps in the local supermarket to translate labels

I have seen these phone apps used extensively by many different nationalities and for many different reasons.
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
12 Aug 2022 #75
Quite so.
pawian 224 | 24,437
16 Aug 2022 #76
Which country to choose if you don`t like censorship in the net?
Poland - light blue
Russia - light red



Lyzko 45 | 9,429
16 Aug 2022 #77
I'd probably choose Poland, even
if I spoke better Russian!

Duda simply doesn't frighten me
as much as Putin. Putin isn't even
known as an anti-Semite, he is
though a cruel throwback to Czarist times.
Novichok 4 | 8,028
16 Aug 2022 #78
Duda simply doesn't frighten me as much as Putin.

BS again. Simply say that your life would not improve with the move without crapping on Putin.
I moved to the US in 1967 when the Vietnam war was in full swing and I was subject to the draft. Your personal risks while in Russia would be infinitely lower - if any. Just another opportunity here to unload on the man.
pawian 224 | 24,437
16 Aug 2022 #79
Putin isn't even known as an anti-Semite

And Duda is very positive towards Jews, he always says beautiful words on Ghetto Rising anniversary. And his wife is of Jewish origin after her father.
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
16 Aug 2022 #80
Traditionally, Poland has always prided herself on being
more Westernized. Even you should know that:-)

As I've said before, Duda is a much more Westernized
figure than Putin, a known hater of Western culture, ever was.
Once a KBG man, ALWAYS a KBG man.
pawian 224 | 24,437
16 Aug 2022 #81
Once a KBG man, ALWAYS a KBG man

Hey, now you are making a parody of all teachers` motto - once a teacher, always a teacher. Please, do not diminish and belittle us by such comparisons to that sun of the beach Putin. .....
Novichok 4 | 8,028
17 Aug 2022 #82
a known hater of Western culture, ever was.

You are so right. He hates Puccini and Verdi as much as he hates LGBTFUs preaching in Russian schools and women with dicks competing with women with vaginas.
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
17 Aug 2022 #83
Quite the contrary, paw.
A teacher, unlike a leopard, CAN change their "spots", if they
so choose. After all, one stops learning, they might as well stop teaching!
(Hey, there goes half the teaching profession LOL) Just joking, folks.

But an ideologue, be they Communist, Capitalist, Faschist, what have you,
will always remain mired, indeed imprisoned, in the penitentiary of their
own making.
pawian 224 | 24,437
17 Aug 2022 #84
A teacher, unlike a leopard, CAN change their "spots", if they
so choose. After all, one stops learning, they might as well stop teaching!

But quitting teaching as a job and changing spots are two different things. The motto suggest that even when you give up or retire from teaching, you always remain a teacher in heart.

That is why even when I am retired, I will still do my educational duties here and elsewhere coz this is my vocation. Johhny, Ptak and Novi, there is still hope I will educate you.
Lyzko 45 | 9,429
17 Aug 2022 #85
True. A teacher remains a teacher at heart, similarly, a doctor remains a doctor etc.
However, teaching IS an evolving act, whereas being a dyed-in-the-wool apparatschik
is the opposite of evolution, if anything, it's devolution, as the consciousness has ceased
to grow or develop.
pawian 224 | 24,437
17 Aug 2022 #86
it's devolution

Yes, that is Russia`s and its citizens` fate under KGB gangsters` leadership. They are going backwards instead of promoting progress.
And other countries in the region except Belarus refuse to join Russia in the devolution process. The fact that these countries prefer to associate with the West is solely Russia's fault. If the Kremlin respected the right to freedom of others, if they respected democracy and human rights, no one would turn their back on Russia. Meanwhile, RuSSists continue to blame others for wanting to live better and more dignified than they do.
mafketis 37 | 10,898
23 Aug 2022 #87
russian motivational poster....

pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa0RsZuWQAMQhdn?format=jpg&name=large



mafketis 37 | 10,898
28 Aug 2022 #88
What's normal in other countries... is illegal in the inferior pseudo-country known as russia....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1563823317668208642

horrible country, just.... nasty... everything about it is repulsive...
pawian 224 | 24,437
6 Nov 2022 #89
This summit of decent anti Putin Russian activists in Warsaw will go down in history.

polskieradio.pl/395/9766/Artykul/3066087,ExRussian-officials-meet-to-prepare-for-postPutin-future

Ex-Russian officials meet to prepare for post-Putin future
06.11.2022 10:34

Former Russian Parliament members, opposition politicians, ex-officials and social activists have convened for an anti-Putin congress in the village of Jabłonna, central Poland.

Alien 20 | 5,017
10 Nov 2022 #90
@pawian #76
Mongolia is uncensored?


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