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Life in Poland - ECONOMY


johnny reb 48 | 7,164
1 Apr 2023 #31
but wages are not dropping.

Here is what my penpal in Poznan is telling me, PolAm.
"The economy is turning around very weakly in Poland, wages are falling in real terms, and consumption is milking, you can't count on investments either, inflation is still very high and I don't see it to start falling anytime soon."
PolAmKrakow 2 | 993
1 Apr 2023 #32
@johnny reb
I can tell you for veg and fruits we are paying somewhere near double from last year on some items. Meats up about 30%. Wages though, I am starting servers at restaurant at 25 zl per hour, which is 8 more than most places, and still have toruble finding people. Cook at 30 an hour to start before a nice salary after 60 days, and still they want more. Very hard to not pass increases on to consumer without killing your own customer base. Difficult times indeed.
johnny reb 48 | 7,164
1 Apr 2023 #33
for veg and fruits we are paying somewhere near double from last year

Exactly my point, wages have not doubled so in essence wages buying power has gone down.
Difficult in Poland is putting it mildly, how do people in Poland make it with three or four children ?
The restaurant business is the last business I would want to own.
When you buy a restaurant you are married to it 24/7.
Alien 20 | 5,086
1 Apr 2023 #34
When you buy a restaurant you are married to it 24/7.

If you are married, you are always married 24/7. To open a gourmet restaurant was always my dream.....and will remein a dream.
Charliesy 2 | 19
2 Apr 2023 #35
Exactly my point, wages have not doubled so in essence wages buying power has gone down.

Indeed but yet there still seems to be a property boom, at the very least a building boom, inflation is running around 17% yoy but the central bank is keeping rates on hold, seems like a very precarious economic setup, the hope is perhaps the external environment improves but I can't see that happening.

I would love to see a chart of mortgage affordability for housing in Poland it has to have crashed over the last few years. Reminds me a little bit of Celtic Tiger Ireland circa 2006/7.
pawian 224 | 24,529
3 Apr 2023 #36
how do people in Poland make it with three or four children ?

They make it OK if they are teachers of English..... Ha!
jon357 74 | 22,070
3 Apr 2023 #37
One of the (very) few good things that party has done is introduce 500+.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 993
4 Apr 2023 #38
@Charliesy
There is a building boom, not a property buying boom. A friend of mine just bought the realestate her business is located in the other day for just under 550 K. The payback in 15 year loan? A million. Interest rates for commercial property at 18%. Insanity. Home purchasing way down in Krakow anyway, so many flats available it is almost humorus. Commecial realestate leasing costs are way down though.


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