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Poland's birthrate on the decline


Miloslaw 14 | 4,532
29 Jun 2022 #181
A huge population isn't a good thing

An ageing population that needs their pensions paid.
If there are fewer being born, who will pay for the pensions?
jon357 71 | 20,403
30 Jun 2022 #182
the pensions?

This is a problem everywhere unfortunately. Especially in the UK where the media said this week that one in four pensioners is an asset millionaire. I didn't real the article carefully but suspect it's to do with home counties real estate prices.

One problem about the young funding the pensions of the old is that it becomes like a Ponzi scheme and would need an ever growing population.
mafketis 34 | 12,243
30 Jun 2022 #183
We know you hate the global South

Not at all, but I'm a realist about the feasibility of taking people from countries mired in extreme poverty and inequality (and corruption can't get the first two without the third) and placing them in far better run societies and expecting them to be able to be economic contributors....

Education, education, education.

Needs to happen when they're kids and not when they're in their 20s and have just jumped the fence in Melilla.... and about to end up as manteros* or worse because... what else can they realistically do?

Childhood education is a proxy for a lot of the life skills (separate from job skills) that people need in order to find and keep jobs.

I would love for the poorer parts of the world to get their act together and education is key but education for the sake of education (esp secular ) is not an important value for many/most of the people in the world and that's a driver of continued povery/inequality/corruption...

A vicious circle that neither of us can change by hoping for the best.

*en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mantero
jon357 71 | 20,403
30 Jun 2022 #184
taking people from countries mired in extreme poverty and inequality

Yet those are the places that people most want to leave.

Needs to happen when they're kids and not when they're in their 20s

In parts of Africa there have been riots about this. Unfortunately the solution is neither quick, cheap nor 100% effective.

A vicious circle that neither of us can change

Before I read that sentence, I was thinking of using a similar one as part of this post.

There isn't an easy answer, however migration into Poland or other rich countries isn't a crisis. Crises are temporary. I rather suspect it's the story of the next couple of centuries.

In which case the real question is how we can manage it for the best
Novichok 3 | 7,611
2 Jul 2022 #185
In parts of Africa there have been riots about this.

Unfortunately the solution is neither quick, cheap nor 100% effective.

Not true. Not killing white farmers is quick, cheap, and 100% effective in creating food surplus. On the other hand, if you (editorial) are a racist African moron with room temp IQ, you kill white farmers and starve.

Please stick to the subject of the thread
Atch 17 | 4,046
2 Jul 2022 #186
suspect it's to do with home counties real estate prices.

I think you're right Jon. Years ago Ireland supposedly had the highest number of 'millionaires' in the EU and it was entirely due to the exorbitant property values in Dublin.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,480
4 Jul 2022 #187
Meanwhile to get back On-Topic.....
A Plan To Tax Women For Being 'Childless'.
The country's birth rate is declining and we'll be faced with a shortage of workers in the future.
Tax the people who don't have children.

msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/a-plan-to-tax-women-for-being-childless-welcome-to-gilead/ar-AAZaPgk?ocid=msedgdhp&li=BBnbfcL
cms neuf - | 2,072
4 Jul 2022 #188
The people who don't have children are already taxed more heavily - if you are talking about Poland
pawian 191 | 19,224
27 Jul 2022 #189
thousand times from my Polish parents.

But your parents weren`t Polish. You are of Irish German descent. Ha!

Are you guilty of not doing it ?

It was a huge mistake of yours to infringe on my inflated ego in this way. You broke the ceasefire which had lasted for a long time. Now it is your pay time. Ha!
Novichok 3 | 7,611
27 Jul 2022 #190
So Poland is dying with a 1.4 repro rate. Now what Poland needs real bad, as they say, is more gays whose repro rate is...oh yeah, zero. And, of course, abortions on demand. Between these two rights, Poland will be... Sorry...I am out of ideas what to say.
pawian 191 | 19,224
27 Jul 2022 #191
Now what Poland needs real bad

is immigrants. Exotic immigrant males will arouse Polish females while exotic immigrant females will arouse Polish males. Simple. Already described by Sapkowski in Witcher saga about human and elf races.
Alien 11 | 1,653
27 Jul 2022 #192
Poland don't need exotic immigrants. Ukrainian females have enough Polish genes.
pawian 191 | 19,224
27 Jul 2022 #193
If you say so, I am prone to believe you. :):) OK, no exoticism for Poles and Polesses.
But why have you mentioned only females? Are you a bigot????
Alien 11 | 1,653
27 Jul 2022 #194
Because now it is easier to find a female Ukrainian than male Ukrainian in Poland.
pawian 191 | 19,224
27 Jul 2022 #195
Yes, your logic is apallingly intelligible. :):)
Novichok 3 | 7,611
28 Jul 2022 #196
Because now it is easier to find a female Ukrainian than a male Ukrainian in Poland.

Don't worry. They, the men, are coming as soon as leaving Ukraine while man is not a capital offense. It will be known as family reunification. When the process is completed, Poland will have 10 million Ukrainians and two official languages. It doesn't get any more stupid. But then what do you expect from the people who only feeeel but seldom think and where even men are actually women pretending to be men. We have one of these strange creatures here...


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