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Poland's birthrate on the decline


Lenka 3 | 2,856
28 Aug 2022 #211
Or lobby. And protest.

Society doesn't exist somewhere outside of women. Women are part of it and may fight to see the change they want.

I didn't see any increase in birth rate since the law got stricter...Quite the opposite.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #212
@Lenka

Replace the word 'abortion' with murder.....which it is.

Or simply safer ones.

Or simply safer murders ?

Having the right to abortions doesn't mean a women will do it.

Having the right to murder an innocent defenseless child doesn't mean a woman will do it.
Your logic does not fit the crime.

Women may fight to see the change they want.

And what about what the defenseless baby wants ?
Why are only women allowed to speak for them and not the rest of civilized society ?
RussianAntiPutin 8 | 261
28 Aug 2022 #213
@johnny reb
Maybe all murder should be legal, it is for the politicians so why not ordinary or at least rich people?
Not to say I think abortion is murder.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #214
What is it then ?
What do you call killing a defenseless human being ?
Novichok 2 | 7,564
28 Aug 2022 #215
Hey, Lenka, you got to admit that my revolutionary idea of delivering a healthy baby and giving it to some desperate Americans rich enough to cover all the expenses is pretty good considering that it came from a non-menstruating person.

I am in awe of my genius...
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #216
Women had been subdued by males for too long. This unfair domination has come to an end at last and today women can decide about their matters on their own.

Fake macho chauvinist male pigs, keep your dirty hands off women!
Hark, johhny, hark!

Having the right

Yes, that is the essence of rejecting male domination- the right to decide about themselves.

I am in awe of my genius

In love, primarily, Mr Narcichok. :):):)
Lenka 3 | 2,856
28 Aug 2022 #217
idea of delivering a healthy baby and giving it to some desperate Americans rich enough to cover all the expenses is pretty good

And somehow we still have orphans in this world, wonder why.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #218
- the right to decide about themselves.

Themelves is the keyword there.
So where does it give them the right to make choices for someone else ? ie: the baby
Doesn't the baby have any rights ?

that is the essence of rejecting male domination-

That is a cop out as male domination has nothing to do with it besides confusing the issue.
Many women disagree with killing defenseless children too.
Lenka couldn't debate the facts, so you chime in trying to with your pointless defense.

macho chauvinist male pigs, keep your dirty hands off women! Hark, johhny, hark!

These self serving women will have to answer to God, not me.

And somehow we still have orphans in this world, wonder why.

Unaccountable, Irresponsible and selfish would-be parents would be my guess.
Novichok 2 | 7,564
28 Aug 2022 #219
..."keep your dirty hands off women!"

...Including baby-killing "doctors". Brilliant idea.

And somehow we still have orphans in this world, wonder why.

So let's do a pre-birth Auschwitz. Brilliant.

Did you ever visit an orphanage to ask those kids if they would rather be dead?
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #220
Doesn't the baby have any rights ?

What you believe about foetuses being babies isn`t necessarily the same belief for many women. You are trying to force them to adopt your point of view which is again a perfect symbol of nasty male domination over women. Fortunately, it is slowly coming to an end.Ha!

These self serving women will have to answer to God, not me.

yes, so leave it it God and stop poking your dirty nose into their matters coz it is their own business what they do in life. You`d better take care of your own pathetic life.
mafketis 34 | 12,459
28 Aug 2022 #221
Bad laws create bad effects...

cbsnews.com/news/louisiana-woman-nancy-davis-denied-an-abortion-after-fetus-develops-rare-condition/
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #222
coz it is their own business what they do in life.

Actually it IS my moral duty to stand up and protect defenseless children, so it IS my business.
I know your Satanic' Cult feel different about murdering defenseless children then I do but that is just "tuff" on your part.
You are the ones that should have been culled at birth and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
You are very wicked people.
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #223
Actually it IS my moral duty

Imposing your "moral duties" about abortion on others is pure hypocrisy, darling. First, you should take care of your overall moral standing which is quite lousy as we can see or read in the forum and only then you can teach others.

You are very wicked people.

Nope, we are only defending the rights of people who have different opinion on abortion than you and other hypocrite maniacs.

I will say it for the upteenth time - you reject abortion? Fine, don`t have it then. But stop meddling into other people`s affairs. If you are bored in life, buy yourself a dog and meddle into its problems. Simple.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #224
Nope, we are only defending the rights of people who have different opinion

Except they don't have the right to murder other humans !
Who defends the rights of defenseless children ?
That is MY moral duty, like it or not.
And you have the audacity to call yourself a teacher of children. PffffffT !
A child should be safer in its mother's womb than in a classroom.
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #225
That is MY moral duty,

Improve your morals first and then we can talk about duties. hahahaha
mafketis 34 | 12,459
28 Aug 2022 #226
Except they don't have the right to murder other humans !

What about Louisiana? The pregnancy isn't viable and they won't let her abort... I think a _lot_ of those who want to outlaw abortion simply hate women and want them to suffer....
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #227
Improve your morals first and then we can talk about duties.

MY MORALS !
You are the one promoting killing children in their mother's womb !
Good grief......I don't think they make them and dumber than you.
The dr. should have squeezed the forceps a little harder to finish the job on you.

I think a _lot_

That could be your problem
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #228
The dr. should have squeezed the forceps a little harder to finish the job on you.

You see? These are your morals. hahahahaha You would like to see me dead although I have not done any actual harm to you - I only have different views. That is your lousy rightard murderous hypocrisy which I have always rejected. Every single time for all my life.

That is why when I said: improve your morals, I perfectly knew what I was saying. Ha!!!
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #229
You see? These are your morals. hahahahaha You would like to see me dead

Rather you than a defenseless child in its mother's womb.
Novichok 2 | 7,564
28 Aug 2022 #230
What about Louisiana? The pregnancy isn't viable and they won't let her abort...

...as a reaction to viable pregnancies that ended up terminated for the convenience of the woman who wouldn't fit in her bikini. Extreme acts beget extreme acts. Tough sh*it...

Did you ever try to negotiate with terrorists and women? Terrorists are more logical and agreeable.
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #231
Rather you t

The problem is I can`t have an abortion so I am unable to commit the "crime" which you accuse me of. Still, you want me dead. You see? This is your corrupt morality of a murderous rightard. When Trump had a heart attack, I said prayers for his recovery. Learn from me what true Christian mercy means, you fekking murderer, the servant of Satan.
Paulina 13 | 3,769
28 Aug 2022 #232
@johnny reb, but you wrote this about a defenseless child:

The dr. should have squeezed the forceps a little harder to finish the job on you.

This is f*cked up.
pawian 194 | 19,809
28 Aug 2022 #233
This is f*cked up.

This is johhny`s and other rightards` morality. :(:(:( Sick corrupted hypos. Yuk. I am going to my Japanese mattress.
Miloslaw 14 | 4,636
28 Aug 2022 #234
@pawian
@johnny reb
i dkn't really want to enter into your debate.
But I will say that the western world has a huge demographic problem, in the fact that there are not enough children being born to support the retired people!

Poland is getting a boost though, since Russia invaded Ukraine, over 4,000 Ukrainian kids have been born in Poland.
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #235
You would like to see me dead

Why do you project something so silly.
Do you really think you pis me off that bad ?
Just start watching your mouth and manners to your teacher (Me) and you will be safe as a baby in its mother's womb. HooT !
Novichok 2 | 7,564
28 Aug 2022 #236
Poland is getting a boost though, since Russia invaded Ukraine,

It's hard to plan on the chance that there will be a war next door. Absent such events, Poland is free to invite our illegals. We can spare 10 or 20 million easily.

Did you ever visit an orphanage to ask those kids if they would rather be dead?

It's been an hour and I still don't have an answer to that question...What's up with that "orphan" argument? Not very compelling...Right?
OP johnny reb 36 | 7,578
28 Aug 2022 #237
Watch Me

i dkn't really want to enter into your debate.

Then don't.

But I will say that the western world has a huge demographic problem, there are not enough children being born to support the retired people!

Did you count the 4.9 million illegals that have entered our country in the last 18 months but since you don't live here how would you know.

since Russia invaded Ukraine, over 4,000 Ukrainian kids have been born in Poland.

WoW ! Can one just imagine that !
Now the truth is........A total of 3,659,289 babies were born in the US in 2021, according to new data released this week by the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics. That's 1 percent more than the 3,613,647 babies born in the US in 2020, which means that the natal class of 2021 is now what passes for a baby boom in the United States of America.

Why do you embarrass yourself like this Coleslaw ?
Class dismissed. (johnny farts)
Kashub1410 4 | 456
29 Aug 2022 #238
@Paulina
That is fu**ed up regarding ##227

Doesn't change the fact that murder is murder, and supporting policies that murder makes one co-responsible for it, but also diluting the Churches mission and morality.

By publicly stating that one is part of the church and supporting murder is divisive, misinforming and works against Jesus Christs teachings.

One thing is to be a sinner (we all are), promoting it? Or thinking that passing laws that make it legal? Take care of your soul I write
Novichok 2 | 7,564
29 Aug 2022 #239
Next day...Still nothing about those orphans...
Lenka 3 | 2,856
29 Aug 2022 #240
You were telling how giving the baby away is so nice and easy and I just asked why we still have orphans then.

How is their feeling about being alive explain why we still have orphans?

But more importantly why another thread got changed into rant about abortions?


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