Poland's birthrate on the decline

An ageing population that needs their pensions paid.
If there are fewer being born, who will pay for the pensions?

This is a problem everywhere unfortunately. Especially in the UK where the media said this week that one in four pensioners is an asset millionaire. I didn't real the article carefully but suspect it's to do with home counties real estate prices.

One problem about the young funding the pensions of the old is that it becomes like a Ponzi scheme and would need an ever growing population.

Not at all, but I'm a realist about the feasibility of taking people from countries mired in extreme poverty and inequality (and corruption can't get the first two without the third) and placing them in far better run societies and expecting them to be able to be economic contributors....


Needs to happen when they're kids and not when they're in their 20s and have just jumped the fence in Melilla.... and about to end up as manteros* or worse because... what else can they realistically do?

Childhood education is a proxy for a lot of the life skills (separate from job skills) that people need in order to find and keep jobs.

I would love for the poorer parts of the world to get their act together and education is key but education for the sake of education (esp secular ) is not an important value for many/most of the people in the world and that's a driver of continued povery/inequality/corruption...

A vicious circle that neither of us can change by hoping for the best.

*en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mantero

Yet those are the places that people most want to leave.


In parts of Africa there have been riots about this. Unfortunately the solution is neither quick, cheap nor 100% effective.


Before I read that sentence, I was thinking of using a similar one as part of this post.

There isn't an easy answer, however migration into Poland or other rich countries isn't a crisis. Crises are temporary. I rather suspect it's the story of the next couple of centuries.

In which case the real question is how we can manage it for the best

Not true. Not killing white farmers is quick, cheap, and 100% effective in creating food surplus. On the other hand, if you (editorial) are a racist African moron with room temp IQ, you kill white farmers and starve.

Please stick to the subject of the thread

I think you're right Jon. Years ago Ireland supposedly had the highest number of 'millionaires' in the EU and it was entirely due to the exorbitant property values in Dublin.

Meanwhile to get back On-Topic.....
A Plan To Tax Women For Being 'Childless'.
The country's birth rate is declining and we'll be faced with a shortage of workers in the future.
Tax the people who don't have children.

msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/a-plan-to-tax-women-for-being-childless-welcome-to-gilead/ar-AAZaPgk?ocid=msedgdhp&li=BBnbfcL

The people who don't have children are already taxed more heavily - if you are talking about Poland

So Poland is dying with a 1.4 repro rate. Now what Poland needs real bad, as they say, is more gays whose repro rate is...oh yeah, zero. And, of course, abortions on demand. Between these two rights, Poland will be... Sorry...I am out of ideas what to say.

is immigrants. Exotic immigrant males will arouse Polish females while exotic immigrant females will arouse Polish males. Simple. Already described by Sapkowski in Witcher saga about human and elf races.

Poland don't need exotic immigrants. Ukrainian females have enough Polish genes.

If you say so, I am prone to believe you. :):) OK, no exoticism for Poles and Polesses.
But why have you mentioned only females? Are you a bigot????

Because now it is easier to find a female Ukrainian than male Ukrainian in Poland.

Yes, your logic is apallingly intelligible. :):)

Don't worry. They, the men, are coming as soon as leaving Ukraine while man is not a capital offense. It will be known as family reunification. When the process is completed, Poland will have 10 million Ukrainians and two official languages. It doesn't get any more stupid. But then what do you expect from the people who only feeeel but seldom think and where even men are actually women pretending to be men. We have one of these strange creatures here...

@Novichok
Who's the transgender?

Spot on!


We all agree for a change :-)

Any females will arose Polish males.
Tall short fat skinny black white blind crippled or crazy.

@Curly1
As long as they are washed.....🚿

@Alien
And not spoiled/arrogant or just seems uninterested or dead. Playing hard to get is also a turn off

If Polish man horny it don't matter if she washed or arrogent or ugly.
He only thinking one thing.

@Curly1
I disagree

"Poland's birthrate on the decline"
Solution: more abortions. At least, that's what Polish screamers want.
BTW, JR is right. Women should not be allowed to vote because their convenience is all that matters.

Not more abortions. A right to abortion.

Not the same thing you self proclaimed genius

You have a right to abortion right now. Take a coat hanger...
Polish doctors, on the other hand,...their rights to perform abortions are restricted - just as their right to kill you with your consent.


It is the same thing. More rights to abortions = more abortions. Not fewer.

Yes, that`s what Polish women are fighting for right now - abortion without having to use the coat hanger. And they will get what they want.

...to have more abortions.
Those coat hangers saved a lot of babies. Coat hanger, bleeding, infection, and death...Hmm...No. I am going to have that baby and keep it or I will give it to loving parents who can't. What a revolutionary idea. Me...a genius again.

@Lenka


Replace the word 'abortion' with murder.....which it is.
"Not more murders. A right to murder."
Did ya get it that time ?

Or simply safer ones.

Having the right to abortions doesn't mean a women will do it.

Nobody cares about "a woman" when debating such policies. We care about what women (plural) will do and the consequences of it. If you (editorial) want to be part of the tribe and get all the benefits of belonging to it, the tribe has a right to set the rules and conditions. Don't like them, move. I did in 1966.