Jerzy Kosinski - Polish author and liar

My logic is that liability is assigned on the basis of and in proportion to the contribution to the ultimate act.

By that logic, Jews were complicit in the act of executing an innocent man known as Jesus.

Was it because he recognized them as swindlers and Madoff's prototypes? Just asking...

Your logic's illogical...as per usual. Wojtyla admitted the Church was wrong about the Jews, why won't you?

Did the Jews participate in any form in the execution of Jesus?

No, they didn't.

And took no part in any activity leading to his arrest and conviction?

Negatory! Jesus was Jewish too-:)

I have seen many things here I don't like. On the puke scale, you are number one for your lies and evasiveness. Nobody here comes even close to you.


That was your response to my:



Now, quoting from Wikipedia:

In the New Testament, the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus refers to the trial of Jesus before the Sanhedrin (a Jewish judicial body) following his arrest in Jerusalem.

Did you notice that "Jewish judicial body", Jew?

Negatory, my as*. Now I better understand the slime like Madoff.

One Jew did participate - Simon of Cyrene who was forced by Romans to carry the cross.


Why are you getting so unsoundly excited? Do you want to get a heart attack or what? Come on, you are not competing for Golden Pants.

@Pawian, he was however an exception.

Man-child playing stupid again. So let me rephrase it so you can catch the point...

Did the Jews participate in any form in the process of executing Jesus - from the arrest all the way to his execution, including all the steps in between these two endpoints, but excluding the guy who helped to carry the cross?

No, you can`t extend the term execution onto such different occurences as arrest or legal proceedings. Execution is execution, arrest is arrest and court trial is court trial. And dementia is dementia. Simple.


Why do you want to exclude him? You asked about Jews who took part in the execution and you got your answer. Why are you twisting it all back now?

Did the Jews participate in any step from the arrest all the way to his execution?

If you formulate your question in this way, then the only logical answer is: NO!
However, you are taking this thread off-topic too much. Do you want to get another warning?

John 19:6-7 : 6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it the whole point? No crucifixion, no sacrifice for our sins no Christianity?

Jesus letting himself be crucified was a plan B as far as I know - -Jesus didn't cancel the sins of our previous lives - also salvation is not guaranteed if you just merely believe in Jesus

I'd hate to hear what plan C was....

but i don't feel qualified to talk about the subject - there is a website I encourage everyone to read: askrealjesus.com

People should never be punished for the crimes of others. That's Lidice.
Also, Jesus should have saved himself and continue doing good deeds. His death was premature and pointless, not to mention unjust.

Jesus obeyed God's will, right up till the end:

Mathew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

although my guess Jesus talked to God
(most of the time - except when he was dying on the cross - He said: God, why has you forsaken me - it was his last test afaik - askrealjesus.com and the affiliated websites explains this and a lot of other things)

I really wonder why the followers can't simply accept that Jesus was a real and unique person who preached a good message of love and forgiveness and stop right there.

Instead, they claim his special connections with God and the ability to perform miracles. If that was not enough, they extend the miracle-making powers to the various modern-day saints while ignoring the technology and the state of medical arts being capable of detecting fraud with relative ease - something it was not possible 2000 years ago.

If we accept that God created everything, we must include the laws of physics as one of his creations and reject the idea that those can be violated with impunity by some old woman in Peru the Catholic Church discovered to make JP2 another saint.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"

Yes, agree. There are a lot of them, before, during, after the war, and now it has become a real slot machine for the Jews.

6 million Jews, 3 millions of them from Poland, were murdered during WW2. Some of them in a very drastic way. Each of those 6 million victims could have written a book about their fate but they didn`t coz the dead can`t write books.

So, what is the problem that other Jews write such books on behalf of their dead?

I can't disagree, but along with the terrible suffering of Jews in Poland, we must never forget the terrible suffering of ethnic Poles either.

I sometimes get the feeling that Polish suffering gets forgotten and it becomes all about the Jews and I feel this is wrong.
Jews and Poles both suffered under the Germans and Russians and this should never be forgotten.

So-called" race defilers (Rassenschaender) too were abused equally with the Jews!

True, yet another disgusting German philosophy, but hey, Lyzko, you did it too..... you said, quite rightly, that they were abused equally with the Jews, but you did not mention the Poles....... this is where it all goes wrong.... you must not forget or ignore the Poles that suffered because if you do, you will recieve a backlash...... and then, some of you will call that antisemitism and wind it up further still.That is idiotic.

Do not forget the Poles that suffered and the many that helped Jews too.
What Poles hate most is Jews that claim that it was all about them.
In part it was, but that is by no means the full story.
Poles just want more honesty from the Jews.

I too!

That phrase is at least honest; Jews were a separate tribe, not a religion that is separate from Christianity.
It was the case of Nation A living off of Nation B and causing Nation B to shake off the econ parasites and the UB oppressors of Nation A. By 1968 or so, they finally succeeded.

The fact that Nation A spoke fluent Polish meant nothing. My family spoke fluent German and hated them with passion. In fact, speaking the language of the enemy and the occupiers was what saved many in Poland.

Tuwim, Róziewicz etc. were both native-born Polish nationals of the Jewish faith! They knew only the Polish tongue and from what I've gleaned, had never even been to Israel-:) And you people want to kill their love and their pride? Wstydzcie sie!!