Polish Police and Their Tactics

Do you have the right to defend yourself at home?

We have discussed that many times dickhead.

How is a gun crazed lunatic going to get into the complex, into the klatka and then into my apartment

What a simpleton you are

Do you have the right to defend yourself at home?

Yes or no?

The answer is yes

What objects are you allowed to use to defend yourself at home?

Cite the law, not personal bullshlt.

Asasume it's dark and there are two guys trying to break in through a window.

Two very good climbers who can get up to a high floor ?

You can use anything available to you at the moment.


VI KRN 34/74:

"Działającemu w obronie koniecznej wolno użyć takich środków, które są niezbędne do odparcia zamachu. Użycie, zwłaszcza z umiarem, niebezpiecznego narzędzia nie może być uznane za przekroczenie granic obrony koniecznej, jeżeli odpierający zamach nie rozporządzał wówczas innym, mniej niebezpiecznym, ale równie skutecznym środkiem obrony, a z okoliczności zajścia, a zwłaszcza z przewagi po stronie atakujących i sposobu ich działania, wynika, że zamach ten zagrażał życiu lub zdrowiu napadniętego."

If they were climbing several levels up then I would pour boiling oil over my balcony like in medieval times

@cms neuf, haha... "Home Alone" style :D 😂👍

Hey, Golden Moron, have you heard about something called "a house"? Are they all on sticks?

What an evasive a-hole...


Asasume it's dark and there are two guys trying to break in through a window.

You just woke up in your bedroom. What do you use to defend yourself?

Memo to Americans:

If you can't read Polish, let me assure that there is no person on this earth who can comprehend this pile of legalistic crap in #217.

If you ask Google to translate this shlt, your PC will burst into flames. Poles are insane.

Did you read about that bloke in Gdansk who saw somebody abseil onto his balcony, clip his very expensive bike to their harness and then abseil off again? He ran onto the balcony and cut the rope.

Two hours later and still only stupid evasive jokes...So, let's try again...

You just woke up in your bedroom to the noise of broken glass downstairs.

What do you use to defend yourself?

You must be a special kind of moron then, because I asked Google to translate that legal text into English and apart from one mistake it's all understandable.

But even if it wasn't understandable I summed up it for you in one sentence in my #217 post:
"You can use anything available to you at the moment."

To go further into details of the Polish law concerning self-defence - if someone is attacking you with fists, you can use a knife to repel the attack. If someone is attacking you with a knife and you have a gun, you can use a gun. So you can use a tool that is giving you an advantage over the attacker. Get it?


Cms_neuf doesn't live in a house though.


If those are thieves then in Poland it's normally enough to turn the lights on and they ran away. Majority of break-ins happen when owners are not at home.

Broken glass downstairs? Not my problem - though the next morning I might check on the guy that lives there

Let's reverse the questions though

You are asleep in your Illinois bedroom - three "home invaders" arrive. One has an Uzi he bought in Walmart, one has an AK47 he bought in Jewel and one has a bazooka he bought in the local gas station. All are veterans with extensive military training. which do you shoot first with your crappy pistol ?

...including an illegal gun?

Or is Polish law so idiotic that you have match weapon for weapon...He has knife so you can only use a knife, not a sword...


Only a total moron would come up with this kind if argument. Or: He is dead so he doesn't care...Back to Polakville...a place where th estupid congregate...

BTW, Russians are not planning to invade Poland for that exact reason. If they are, it's rare so why are you spending billions?

How about post A5 signs at the border or yelling: Americans!!! That should scare the fvck out of them Ruskies...


Those are weasel words we use to make thing impersonal and statistically insignificant. Well...guess what...shlt happens...even if it's rare...Do you have a fire extinguisher?

I am talking about you, at 2 am, and when the scumbags are on drugs so they don't give a damn about your stupid light or yelling who is there...

Only women are that stupid...to reveal where they are and that they are alone.

I suppose so, but you'd still get arrested for owning an illegal gun.


Are you blind, purposefully obtuse or retarded? I already wrote in my previous comment that according to Polish law you don't have to "match weapon for weapon".


You mean at my place? No, I don't have a fire extinguisher (and I don't know anyone who does).
Those are not "weasel words" - that's simply the reality. Yes, sh1t happens, but because it's so rare the risk is low and people are ready to live with such low risk. Car accidents happen and yet majority of people drive their cars on the roads every day anyway.


My first question would be - if they're so high that they don't care then how would they be able to get into my place in the first place.

Secondly - robbers high on drugs breaking into ordinary people's houses to steal stuff must be something very rare in Poland, because I haven't heard about such cases.

And if it did somehow happen and they would be trying to get into the place without caring that someone's inside then police's advice is not to confront the robbers, but find a safe space (go to your neighbours, for example) and call the police.

LOL

RuSSia invading countries isn't rare though. They keep doing that in recent years.


I'm not saying that's what I would do - I'm saying that in Poland usually it would be enough for thieves to realise that someone's inside the house/flat to resign from breaking in.

Back to that "usually" crap...When my ass in on the line, "usually" is nothing but a meaningless weasel word.

What if the two scumbags downstairs are not what happens "usually"?


They will find you...

A to B: Go find the money. I will fvck the bit*ch...

B to A: OK. No witness - if you know what I mean...

Your paranoia is your problem though. You don't live in Poland, you live in the US and we all already know that you have a gun on every floor of your house lol So what's your problem then? Why are you obsessing so much about gun laws in Poland? o_O


Where? In my neighbours' place?


I've honestly never heard about such case taking place in Poland - robbers breaking in and raping the female home owner.

I am just having fun with the idiots who believe that they have rights, not handouts...And that "democracy"...and freedom of speech ... with asterisks and footnotes...

Without the First or the Second, you are subjects - just as under fascism and communism. In this respect, there is not an iota of difference.

You are spending billions just in case Russia decides to invade Poland. Why? When did Russia last invade Poland time? How about never...The opposite happened...Russia left Poland 30 years ago but you still freak out...

Russia is not the USSR just as Germany is not a NAZI state...but that doesn't matter...you want to be prepared for the worst...except at home...My robbers will be nice and me turning the lights on will get them running. Sure...

How about multiple times o_O


Yeah, and why did it leave Poland? Because it stayed against the will of Polish people.


You are an old lonely man noone wants to talk to in real life who's so afraid of a home invasion that he keeps a gun on every floor of the house.


I realise it's probably difficult for Americans to understand what it's like to live in a country as safe as Poland if they haven't lived here and experienced it themselves.

You keep your rights, high crime rates and mass shootings and we'll keep our "handouts" while living in a safe country with low crime rates and no mass shootings :)

Will you answer my question ?

3 heavily armed young crackshot home invaders v a retired old man and your cheap pistol. Which one do you shoot first ? How do you stop the other 2 shooting you ?

Dates, please.


Just as you are afraid of a Russian invasion...even with A5 and the US army all over the country...still scared...

Paranoia but only about Russia...Germans are cuddly kittens...

1492, 1500, 1507, 1558, 1577, 1632, 1654 (the second longest war in Polish history, in the same time also Sweden invaded the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - known as Deluge), 1733, 1772+1793+1795 (the partitions), 1794+1830+1863 (Polish uprisings), 1919, 1939.


Not really, unless your neighbours experienced a violent home invasion in the last few years during which your neighbour was killed, his wife raped and their house partially burned with their kids traumatised for the rest of their lives.


Yes, unlike RuSSians, Germans haven't invaded their neighbours since the end of WWII - that's 80 years already.


I'm waiting too, Novichok :)))

That was not the Russian Federation - just as Germany today is not the one that operated Auschwitz.

When did Poland invade Iraq?


It's 86 since 1939. Sue Stalin.

The Russian Federation is a legal continuation of the Soviet Union.

And it does not officially distance itself from its predecessor's crimes.