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Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun?


johnny reb 22 | 4,162
10 Jan 2017 #241
That's your claim: you prove it.

Being that you are TROLLING TOTALLY OFF TOPIC I must refrain from responding besides the fact that, I SURE DO KEEP YOU BUSY. :-) lmao
Harry
10 Jan 2017 #242
TROLLING TOTALLY OFF TOPIC

The simple fact is that the rate of murder by firearm in Poland is lower than any US city which has even one murder by firearm in a year. No wonder you'd prefer us to focus on discussing whether or not you live in a town that doesn't exist.

I wonder whether any mod will realise that "Intentional hijacking of forum threads is strictly prohibited." and respond accordingly to your claims about the murder rate in a fictional American town in a thread about "Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun?" but I'd better not hold my breath: the chances of them doing anything about your off-topic trolling is about the same as the rate of murders in Poland involving a firearm, i.e. 0.06 per 100,000.
johnny reb 22 | 4,162
10 Jan 2017 #243
And the town I live in has no murders by guns so Polands murder rates by gun are higher then the town I live in so their ya go Har.

All the rest of your intentional hyjack trolling you have done in the last few post are just another of your skillfully sow innuendo steeped in ­exaggeration (lie) Har.

Now please stay On Topic here before you get your sixth warning.
Harry
10 Jan 2017 #244
the town I live in has no murders by guns

The town you claim to live in does not exist. You are simply making things up because you cannot argue against the simple facts. Let's review some of those facts.

Fact: in 2011 (the most recent year for which full data is available at data.unodc.org) Poland had a murder by firearm rate of 0.06 per 100,000 people.

Fact: in 2011 the country where you claim guns keep people safe had a murder by firearm rate of 2.77 per 100,000 people.
Fact: a person is more than 46 times more likely to be murdered by being shot in the USA than in Poland.
Fact: in 2011 Poland had an overall murder rate of 1.2 per 100,000 of the population.
Fact: in 2011 the country where you claim guns keep people safe an overall murder rate of 4.7 per 100,000 of the population.
Fact: there is no town in the USA in which a murder by firearm rate can be calculated to two decimal places per 100,000 of the population that has a lower murder by firearm rate than Poland's.

Fact: neither any amount more of lies about zero members of the NRA having ever murdered anybody by shooting them or about Poland and the USA having the same number of murders or anything else nor any amount more of off-topic trolling by you will change any of the above facts.
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,059
10 Jan 2017 #245
Do we Poles really need incidents like this one?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4106012/U-S-jury-asked-condemn-South-Carolina-church-gunman-death.html
Ironside 49 | 10,174
10 Jan 2017 #246
The town you claim to live in does not exist.

Geez Harry. He is talking about the town where he actually live.

Do we Poles really need incidents like this one?

You seems to be really active trying to scare people.
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,059
10 Jan 2017 #247
You seems to be really active trying to scare people.

Americans do that for me.
johnny reb 22 | 4,162
11 Jan 2017 #248
Nope, it's because Mayberry North Carolina does not exist. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayberry

Oh Har, why do you bore us with your lies.
Source:
Hold on, have to go get it again
Now wipe the egg off your face AGAIN ! (sigh)
Did you know that more people die in Poland than in the U.S.A. from alcoholism ?
Maybe Poland should outlaw alcohol consumption.
Or maybe that is why Poland outlawed guns because of the acute alcohol consumption in their country.
I know that the Polish vodka Spirytus Wesoly will get you there in a hurry.
johnny reb 22 | 4,162
11 Jan 2017 #249
O.K. Har, google this and it will even give you a map of where Mayberry is.

bing.com/search?q=Where+is+Mayberry+NC+located&FORM=QSRE3
Harry
11 Jan 2017 #250
He is talking about the town where he actually live.

It doesn't matter which town he actually lives in, as opposed to the town he claims to live in (he is currently claiming he lives in is a fictional town): there is no town/city in the USA which has a murder rate that can be accurately calculated to one decimal place that beats Poland's 1.2 per 100,000 of the population. The one which comes closest is San Diego, which has nearly double Poland's rate, at 2.3 per 100,000 of the population.

Of course, perhaps he's trying to claim that his town has a lower murder by firearm rate than Poland's 0.06 per 100,000 people. But the simple fact is that there is no city in the USA which can accurately calculated to two decimal places a murder by firearm rate. You'd need to collect data from several years and compare it to a single year's data from Poland. If one takes San Diego again (choosing it because it has the lowest murder rate of any large city), you'd need to combine data for eight and a half years to get enough data to go to two decimal places, and even then the murder by firearm rate would be massively above Poland's 0.06.

The reality is that johnny knows all of the above. That's why he's trying so desperately to drive this discussion off-topic and making ad hom posts. The facts are crystal clear: having ready access to guns does not make a society safer, quite the reverse, as is shown by the simple fact that the USA has a murder rate nearly four times higher than that of Poland.
johnny reb 22 | 4,162
11 Jan 2017 #251
But the simple fact is that there is no city in the USA which can accurately calculated to two decimal places a murder by firearm rate.

What Har refuses to understand is that there has never been a murder with a gun in the town I live in which makes the murder rate 0%.

(he is currently claiming he lives in is a fictional town

No, YOU claim that Har, not me.

The town you claim to live in does not exist.

How can that be when I have never made such a claim, those are your claims with your skillfully sown innuendo's steeped in exaggeration (lie) Har.

Mayberry is not a fictional town as the website I provided proves. (Wipe more egg off your face Har)
You have no idea what town I live in that has never had a murder with a gun.
The younger law abiding Poles will eventually be forced to defend themselves and their families with the way the world is going.
That is when the gun laws will start changing and changing fast in Poland.
Harry
11 Jan 2017 #252
there has never been a murder with a gun in the town I live in which makes the murder rate 0%.

Oh dear, the sadness that is johnny trying to argue against facts goes on. Now he has changed his profile (?action=userinfo&user=51460) to "Country, city Morgantown West Virginia" (a somewhat more believable choice than his previous ones, it might even be the real one). I've attached a screenshot so when he changes it again later you can see what he claims it is now.

Unfortunately johnny again hasn't covered the basics. This source neighborhoodscout.com/wv/morgantown/crime/ shows is that along with its population of 30,708 Morgantown West Virginia had a murder last year. That means the murder rate per 100,000 is 3.26. Sadly that rate is more than double the murder rate in Poland.

Perhaps johnny would like to claim that that murder did not involve a gun and repeat his claim that there has never been a murder with a gun in the town he lives in?OK.

Jeron Hawkins, a 19-year-old Charleston resident, had no idea that bringing a gun into a Morgantown nightclub in September 2011 would cost him his life. Hawkins got into an argument with another man at Karma, a club on High Street, ... Hawkins pulled his gun, killing 28-year-old Lucas Lee.

mountaineernewsservice.com/why-west-virginias-rate-of-gun-violence-is-above-the-national-average/

One really does wonder when johnny is going to realise he's up against facts he can't argue with and that his ceaseless lies are only going to be exposed.



NoToForeigners 10 | 1,059
11 Jan 2017 #253
That Johnny :) Guy's desperately looking for some arguments for free access to guns being good (even claims it LOWERS the crime rate lol) that he even openly lies. It's actually funny.

Next Johnny's location: Marian Ditch, Pacific Ocean
Murders rate 0,00 per 100000

Hahahahha
TheTexan
20 Jun 2017 #254
@JonnyM
Thanks for answering his question... Oh wait... You didn't, you just judged him because he wants to practice his God given right to self preservation. If your "culture" over looks the fact that people have a right own weapons that have purposeful use in self defense, then your culture sucks.
jon357 63 | 15,043
20 Jun 2017 #255
God given right

Not in Poland.

BTW, you fail to mention which god - there are hundreds to choose from.
gumishu 11 | 5,148
20 Jun 2017 #256
Next Johnny's location: Marian Ditch, Pacific Ocean

I don't know if it is called Marian or perhaps Marianas but it's definitely not Ditch byt Trench
jon357 63 | 15,043
20 Jun 2017 #257
The Mariana Trench. No concealed guns there either (unless they're waterproof and pressure-resistant).
takdlabroni
26 Aug 2017 #258
GUN&WEAPON LAWS IN POLAND (READ CAREFULLY) - copy/paste=removed
cms 9 | 1,271
4 Oct 2017 #259
I see that with great timing Kukiz 15 have proposed liberalising the gun laws. Only 11 percent of Poles support this and 40 percent say that rather than being left alone the laws should be strengthened.
coollaw
15 Oct 2017 #260
Polish laws allow you to own and posses black power weapon OR REPLICAS. So,you can spend about $500 for a .44 Army or .38 Navy replicas made recently.

They are extremely accurate,six loads revolvers.
Where is the problem?
Joker 1 | 1,402
15 Oct 2017 #261
When it blows up in your face, theres a problem.
PrinceDidier
16 Oct 2017 #262
If you are related with Guns better live in US
van Osdell
20 Oct 2017 #263
Mostly very disgusting and very short sighted comments, especially considering European history! Having a gun available is not because you needed it yesterday, or at this very moment, but for what might come tomorrow. Guns were the FIRST thing that Hitler confiscated - for the public SAFETY, of course! Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it, unfortunately for the human race.
van Osdell
20 Oct 2017 #264
Harry, what was that about the murder rate in Poland being close to zero per 100,000? Is that over the last 10 years, or last 20, or last 2 years? What? How many Polish people were killed by guns in during Hitler's invasion? Maybe if every person had owned a gun (LIKE IN PRECIOUS and PEACEFUL and highly desirable Switzerland!), the Nazis might have had a tougher time of routing your army and killing so many civilians!

Gosh, maybe in Star Wars God (the force) shouldn't have allowed anyone to carry a blaster or a space ship with lasers! People have a right from the 'universe' to be able to defend themselves. You never need a gun until you need it, and no one knows what can happen tomorrow. You are so damn SMUG, it is pathetic! I'll move to Czech Republic instead! Even Russia is considering allowing personal ownship of weapons. And, you can own them now in Ukraine if you keep them in a safe at home (I know because my wife is from Ukraine).
cms 9 | 1,271
20 Oct 2017 #265
So go to Czech - one less gun owning nut makes my family safer here.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
20 Oct 2017 #266
Guns In Poland no problem no licence required just get a brand new black powder Remington good for at least 200 yards six shots.

youtube.com/watch?v=sjyVBrMHAtE
time1865
17 Dec 2017 #267
Hello,

I am curious how do hunting clubs work in Poland?
Ishallsurvive
18 Dec 2017 #268
Actually Poland have open policy when it comes to guns, everyone can carry a weapon. Poland is another Godless state that try so hard, I mean sooo hard to fit in within the global american imperialism. They do everything within their power to serve their masters in the white house and England, I don't blame them, they want to survive!
Wulkan - | 3,251
18 Dec 2017 #269
They do everything within their power to serve their masters in the white house

I'd personally rather serving those than the ones in Brussels.
Joker 1 | 1,402
19 Dec 2017 #270
Belgium`s tough gun laws didn't keep the Paris terrorists from getting their guns there.


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