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Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun?


Jaskier
4 Apr 2019 #901
are not discouraged by strict gun law regulations and they will get weapons anyway.

Actualllly not true. Less guns available, they are harder to get = higher price. All that together means that less criminals go that way. Your view is based onn USA where there is planty of guns, legal and not. Not the case in Europe
Spike31 3 | 1,504
4 Apr 2019 #902
I've never once heard anyone say they want them.

I do want them. And I will apply for hunter's licence once back in Poland. That's the fastest way to get a permission for a rifle under current strict gun laws.

Sadly has a gun crime rate many times higher than Poland or the U.K.

Well, in the UK a knife crime is on the rise to the point that even ASDA has announced that they will not sell kitchen knives in their supermarkets...

msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/asda-to-remove-kitchen-knives-from-sale-by-end-of-april-amid-concerns-over-knife-crime/

Actualllly not true. Less guns available, they are harder to get = higher price. All that together means that less criminals go that way.

Sure, in border-less Schengen Zone it must be a huge problem to saturate black market with illegal guns.

"552 weapons and more than 44 thousand pieces of ammunition were secured in 2016 throughout the country - informs the Central Bureau of Investigation Police. In most cases, it was illegally imported from abroad.

CBŚP emphasizes that the number of weapons and ammunition secured in the past year was record-high."

dorzeczy.pl/19677/Alarmujacy-raport-CBSP-Coraz-wiecej-nielegalnej-broni-w-Polsce.html
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #903
. And I will apply for hunter's licence once back in Poland

You will have to find a group that will invite you in and it will cost 20,000 zl. when all done
Jaskier
4 Apr 2019 #904
Yes, it is hard. You have to know where to go and it wouldn't be cheap. Do you really thing small time criminals will bother? Btw, the low gun crimes rate speak for themselves. Criminals in Poland don't use guns very often
delphiandomine 84 | 18,135
4 Apr 2019 #905
You will have to find a group that will invite you in

I can only speak for the local guys to me, but they are really not keen on anyone who wants a gun for the sake of having a gun. They're quite steeped in traditions and hunting culture, and if you haven't been brought up around them, it's nearly impossible to get in unless you know several members that will vouch for you.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #906
They're quite steeped in traditions and hunting culture,

You are kidding me , they are more interested in getting seriously drunk three days a week at the local hunting lodge (Barn).

Then if you are really lucky you will see them pissed walking up the lane with a rifle (possibly loaded) over the shoulder.

But the great thing is if you are a member and you die, they will come in their fine green uniforms hat with feather, and shoot a volley of four shots over your grave, (live ammo probably) where it lands who knows?
delphiandomine 84 | 18,135
4 Apr 2019 #907
I never said that drinking wasn't part of the culture ;) But that's the thing with them, they're like a closed shop, and they certainly don't want wannabe Rambos causing trouble for them.
pawian 168 | 11,014
4 Apr 2019 #908
they will get weapons anyway. They often even prefer to get illegally since they don't have to provide any form of ID when buying them.

That`s gangsters or mafia. When they are involved, you will be helpless anyway, armed or not. Casual criminals don`t have an access to guns. Besides. I can imagine what would happen on the roads where now drivers only show a finger or simply insult each other. Besides, the access to guns would also change the police`s attitude to citizens, accidental shootings of innocent people would certainly rise. Do you want to check it out if you look provocative enough for a police officer to shoot at you, just because he/she wasn`t sure of your behaviour? etc etc

All in all, it is obvious you haven`t really considered all aspects of the issue. If you dream about having a gun, go the the USA.

and they certainly don't want wannabe Rambos causing trouble for them.

Exactly.
I know a few guys from a local club close to our school, they send their kids here, they consider themselves an elite - mostly doctors, dentists, a prosecutor, local businessmen. No teachers. :):)
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #909
they're like a closed shop,

Absolutely.

Plus a hunting rifle is very big and shoots one shot at a time, hardly any use to a nutcase or robber.
Miloslaw 7 | 3,105
4 Apr 2019 #910
Exactly,so I think the consensus is that we don't need more gun availability in Europe.
But if I was living in The USA or central or south america,I might have a different point of view.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #911
USA or central or south america

I would be locked and loaded at all times, I would get concealed carry permit before any gym membership.
Spike31 3 | 1,504
4 Apr 2019 #912
You will have to find a group that will invite you in and it will cost 20,000 zl. when all done

Yes @dolnoslask, somewhere between 15000-30000 PLN depending on the extra equipment, but money is not a problem. I'll especially invest extra dough in superb hunting rifle [sztucer], there's no saving money on that. I was thinking Blaser R8 .308 winchester calibre.
delphiandomine 84 | 18,135
4 Apr 2019 #913
No teachers. :):)

I know one! But again, it's about family and tradition - his great-grandfather was some sort of huntsman for some German country estate owner, his grandfather was a forester, his father is a forester and he went into teaching as a geography teacher, but he was brought up around hunters from a very early age.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #914
I was thinking

I will stick with the AI .338 Lapua

A bit old in the tooth but I know it.
Spike31 3 | 1,504
4 Apr 2019 #915
.338 is heavy duty, packs a stronger punch and has more recoil. But I don't mind when a gun "kicks me". I think I'll have to test them both, preferably side by side, before making the final decision
dolnoslask 5 | 2,677
4 Apr 2019 #916
punch and has more recoil

Check out the AXMC you can switch calibres in minutes


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