Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun?

None needed. I just wanted to clarify my own position (one of the burdens of being a pedantic twit - I'm always clarifying my own position)

@Atch

Guns are just part of everyday life where I'm at. Yes, you're correct, I shoot them, train with them, build them as a hobby and business. I still don't believe in pushing my own views of firearms ownership into a unique society that does not have the same affinity for them. That's a Polish prerogative.

So are you implying that America is a uncivilized country?

Which Americans are you referring to? I cant find anywhere we Americans told you to acquire guns. However, I did discover back in post #278 where you started this whole anti gun thing.

Let's call it 'half-civilized', OK? A little shooting here and there, be it as tragic as it is for the victims and their families, doesn't necessarily make America 'uncivilized'. But what would you say about the US frequently breaking every treaty signed with native Americans when the wild hordes of immigrant Americans were relentlessly pushing to the West? Or about these same hordes of Americans having killed nearly all of the tens of million of bisons bringing the species nearly to extinction while pursuing their 'Drang nach Westen' in the 19th century?

I say, America has been built on some unhealthy and uncivilized manners !

A majority of our US population in the Western as well as Southern and Southwestern states are STILL living in the days of Manifest Destiny, westward expansion ...and never moved onLOL

I never posted my personal opinion to arm or not to arm Poland Atch, it is YOU who keeps posting what you project what American people "think".

You stated, "Can't have it both ways. Either you think the law in Poland should remain as it as or you don't. Simples."

So now you know what I think and are speaking for me.
I simply ask a question about Poland and made a statement about the citizens of the United States which you replied how I think. lol


which you now have been corrected on.
was followed with your baiting to get a rise out of us Americans with words like "violent as America", "they're afraid to live in them without having a gun in their house or on their person" by trying to compare little itsy bitsy Ireland to great big huge America by speaking for all of Americans.

Understand that Irelands whole population as a country is not even what New York cities is Atch.


I say, any country in the world has been built on some unhealthy and uncivilized manners INCLUDING Poland and Ireland.
America is only 250 years old so it's history is fresh while European countries 250 years ago weren't quite so "civilized' either.
Now that Atch has so innocently stirred the pot with words like "violent" and "uncivilized" Americans we should talk about the "violent and uncivilized" bombs that killed so many innocent people in Ireland in the last fifty years. :-o

We need to buy these before the gun grabbers won't let us then convince then have NRA convince people an anti tank rifle is for hunting.... elephants! = )

businessinsider.com/army-new-assault-rifle-will-pack-punch-tank-gun-2018-2?r=UK&IR=T

Oh ho ho ho ho, that is just a knee slapper ain't it, ho ho ho ho.
OR is it, "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it as it seems to be working better then what is happening in the "civilized" State that you live in.


You mean you see through her gamey trolling too. lol
I will say Atch, you sure know how to play people with words.


Naw, I like the little silent drones that you can buy in any big box store and attach a camera and a laser powerful enough to burn a hole through human flesh.

Start flying them over the "Hood" to see how much gun fire they would draw. lol
Now......just for the hell of it can we do what the Mod requested of us and get back on and stay on topic here please.

You did actually, several times in this thread including suggesting Poles be allowed to carry hand guns to defend themselves from terrorists. Now that's all the conversation I'm going to have with you on this topic.


His Nibs above and Adrian//Dirk whose actual words were "I encourage all Polish citizens to buy a gun".

Well if I did "SEVERAL TIMES" then you should have no trouble posting those "several" posts of mine that your wreckless imagination accuses me of should you.

(as the snowball in hell melts slowly as we wait)
Is this the ONE post of mine that you are quoting me of "suggesting" that Poles be allowed to carry ?


Let's emphasize the word 'might' here as my so called suggestion. lol
You do come up with some good ones Atch.


Probably for the best since you have so many other members disagreeing with you on your wild innuendo's.
Maybe start a thread about "how to cook a goose under glass" to dazzle us with.

@Atch

Correction i encouraged all european women to have a concealed carry - it is their option whether they want to or not. If i were a female living in malmo you better believe id be carrying some kind of weapon. I specifically also wrote since poland is safe therr really isnt a need for guns for self defense however the situation in france germany sweden is different for women

Its pathetic that a countru who prides itself as essentially thr birthplace of modern feminism and has so many women in positions have average local women scared to go outside their homes according to numerous swedish women.

Encouraging is not actually telling or ordering or in any form persuasive.Its just an suggestion they can reject it of
course.

That's the beauty of democracy and freedom, but unfortunately so many people want to change that esp on the left. The beauty of the 2nd amendment is a person can choose whether they want to be a legal gun owner or not

Cut the pointless left-right cr@p. The fact is:

... Today in the White House..

- Trump: We must take guns from dangerous people!
- Pence: I sort of agree.. but who is considered "dangerous"? :: )
- Trump: Whoever owns a gun!
- Pence: 4-D chess Master! Will proceed!

@Johnny, your words were that in the USA responsible gun owners enjoy the freedom to defend themselves and their families and friends followed by "Poland should be allowed those same freedoms".


And you also said:


So to summarize, some Americans on this forum believe that firearms ownership is a desirable thing and not just for Americans but for Poles/Europeans too. In general, Poles and those who live in Poland do not feel the need or desire to own firearms for self-defence either from criminals, invading armies or terrorists or indeed their own government.

Encouraging people is one thing, forcing them or telling them what to do is another. Again isnt freedom about having different options? I dont want to change the laws but if a person wants to buy a gun to me thats up to them. I dont believe johnny or i or any american said polish laws should be changed. And even then thats up to polish citizens to decide. And i feel the polish laws are appropriate for the situation. Ill be fine i dont need a gun in polish society. But if my wife or gf wants one you bet ill pay for it. Hell ill pay for a pink glock if thats what she wants. Now i have my own lil security detail = )

Actually the rates of gun ownership is gradually increasing meaning an increasing amount of pokish citizens have decided they want a legal firearm. This could be a direct result of the war in ukraine or the muslim hordes

If you are refering to Dirk..then mind you, he is also a Polish citizen.

They don't consider me a Pole though... residence is more important than citizenship, fluency in language, and even genes/DNA.

And then our Prez has the temerity to advance the notion that those armed teachers should receive PAY RAISES for being able to wield firearms???!!

Geez, whatcha gotta go through to earn a few more measly bucks. For a gentile, he shows lotsa chutzpah.

You need a license and degrees for just about everything nowadays! A certificate to protect us from a bad haircut, poor teaching, quack doctoring etc, yet NOTHING to protect us from an awful presidency:-)

Any country where you get a gun shoved in your face is obviously a uncivilised shii--.

Could anyone argue otherwise?

Then so is France UK Sweden and any european country facing cultural enrichment

I would rather take my chances with a bullet wound rather than spend the rest of my life with no face.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/acid-attacks-uk-highest-world-figures-police-revealed-a8098236.html

Now Britain is truly an uncivilised shi-- now that it has adopted this moronic practice from the indian sub continent

And people wish for more migration of people into Poland with these types caveman practices. god forbid next thing we will be forced to eat halal meat like the rest of western Europe.

Careful bro, you start pointing out facts like that and they'll have you rung up on charges of hate speech. Stick to denigrating Christians and their beliefs, it's much less risky and more socially acceptable.

@shockedinpoland

You are a coward. You are not registered to the forum, but are clearly familiar with its members. You leave one sentence snarky quips, while adding literally nothing of value to the conversation.

To the rest of the members that are reading this, can we agree to ignore all posts from ShockedInPoland, please do not respond to him/her/zim/per (don't want to misgender by accident).

Well in Poland I can , unlike the failed and soon to be a third world nation of Britain, where I was once a happy and proud citizen.

Anyway in Poland you can have a firearm with no licence required,

youtube.com/watch?v=sjyVBrMHAtE

Black powder I know but were very effective during the american civil war as you know.

But you don't understand, acid attacks don't actually have any effect on the people responsible for importing it to the UK so there might be a little lip service, but you know.... eggs, omelets and all those higher ideals and improved fast food options. Which is more important anyway, rule of law and a law abiding population or more interesting ethnic restaurants?

Not sure what you mean by this.

Is any government figure (responsible for allowing so many South Asians into the UK) in any danger of having acid thrown in their face?

No? If not, that's why they don't think it's a problem.

Similarly, they watch over their teen daughters and so they don't care about mostly white mostly non-muslim teenage girls being exploited by mostly pakistani gangs...

The overall pattern in Europe is that those making policy don't suffer bad effects when they make bad decisions...

I get ya I totally agree with you.