The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?

I will repeat it until I get the answer from somebody with brains. Clearly, it's not you so you can ignore it.

BTW, that BS of yours about civilians and guns was beneath even you.

So one more time: A cop is a civilian with a handgun and badge...many of them worse shots than civilians without badges who visit gun ranges regularly.

Memo to the defenseless Euro bootlickers and Lyzko: Cops are body counters, not your defenders, morons...By the time they show up, you are already dead. See Sydney massacre.

In that mall, if just one good guy had a gun...maybe the body count would be lower...

Back to my question:

Why do Polish cops who carry guns carry guns?

The answer: They have guns to be safe while arresting the guy who murdered you because you didn't.

Was it so hard, azhole?

Now Novi, was that necessary ?


Not Europe, just Poland.
As long as you keep responding with your defiance this thread will continue repeating itself with the same point counter points.
jon357 finally made a point that actually made sense however.


70% of Polish women have experienced some kind of domestic violence.
I agree that it wouldn't be wise to allow these violent drunks to own a gun in their homes.

And you think easy availability of guns would lessen that?

Or get them shot.

Why are Polish men such petty, insecure wimps that depend on beating women to fix their pride? I have been arrested 3 times for beating up sad excuses for men who had the stupidity to strike women in my presence. 2 got hospitalized. Hit a woman or girl in my presence and you will be my biatch.

Men shouldn't be beaten either.

Good for you. You did the right thing.

That's my natural reaction to azholes who play stupid games with me. When I am asking a simple question, I expect a simple answer, not some cute crap to annoy me. My gun question was justified and simple to answer.


Hey, stupid, domestic violence doesn't need guns. Fists and kitchen knives are more than enough. How about suffocating a woman with bare hands or a pillow? Are hands and pillows legal in Poland? How about telephone cord? Are phones legal?

What a moron...

One more thing...Any moron here who mentions my family is my enemy forever...I will use every oppo to get even with the pos.

What? You were being friendly before?

or not, I see you are not for Equality?

In my entire PF life I never went for another poster's wife or kids. I am fair game so fire away...and I wll give you 10x...but will leave your family alone.

If I did in the past, I apologize.

Gun nuts like to fantasize about how they'd use their guns to heroically defend their families against intruders. Leaving aside how statistically unlikely such invasions are and how difficult it would be for trained professionals to act appropiately, let alone amateurs (which most of them). The ugly reality is that not only are they more likely to use those weapons to kill themselves or harm family members, but those family members may also (intentionally or accidentally) misuse those guns. Particulary children:

California toddler kills 1-year-old sister with handgun found in home, police say

Gun-related deaths have become a mayor cause of death for children and young adults

cbsnews.com/news/san-diego-toddler-shoots-kills-1-year-old-sister-with-unsecured-handgun/

everytownresearch.org/report/notanaccident/

I am sure that is one thing from the USA no one in Poland is interested in adopting.... .

So if you love your family and want to keep them safe, you should throw your gun away immediately. If you need them for work/hunting, keep them in a secure, locked box.

How about for personal defense ?
Should those be unloaded and locked up in my pocket when I go to the big Black city ?


Now I agree with that 100% as many times I sit here shaking my head in disbelief after reading some of these John Wayne posts.
First of all when you are in a fire fight inside a home the sound of a gunshot is deafening, not like a in a soundproof shooting range, and third of all there is a huge difference between shooting at paper targets and a moving human being shooting back at you.

These armchair t.v. warriors are clueless to a real-life situation and would most likely **** their pants if they ever had to use their weapon against a bad guy that had little fear.

I have tried to explain this before here but of course the ones that it was directed at refused to get it followed by what a bad ass they are with their new shiny gun.

With that said Tacitus, I agree, well over 80% of the gun owners in America are not trained and should not be allowed to carry one and at least 50% should not be allowed to have a weapon in their home. IMO

See in rural America we are brought up with guns and are taught safety, how to load and unload, never point a gun at anyone and treat a gun like it is always loaded whether it is or not.

We go out hunting and target practice a lot while city folks are never exposed to any of that from childhood which is another big difference.

Chapter 2 next week.

Why are you going there?

I enjoy going to the Detroit Tigers baseball games and fly out of the Metropolitan airport there.
Many other reasons too, however, I try to avoid that jungle as much as possible.

@Alien
It is like flipping a switch. My own mother was killed by a man who followed her home from the battered Women Shelter in St.Johns , NL where she worked

Not to kill people with.


They never quite grasp that people outside their culture don't want guns.

We have friendly fun family gun outings all the time with nary an incident. Many gun grabber claims are deeply rooted in emotion driven hyperbole; not factual at all.

One of my 8 year old granddaughters has already bagged 3 deer with her .243 Winchester single shot. She handles her gun with abundant caution built in safe firearms practices.

I encourage all to get legitimate training and decide for themselves. Many former anti-gun folks have become gun owners on my watch. Before you know it they are fixtures at ranges and turkey shoots.

In which country?

Euro morons fantasize. We don't. We own guns the same way we own kitchen knives and lawnmowers.


Hey, stupid, I never bought a gun to kill anyone. Nig*ers buy guns to kill people. Talk to them...


Even cops get hurt with guns like Glocks.

Normal people buy guns with manual safety and keep them unchambered with safety on. For additional safety, the mag is near but out. Got it? Only idiots buy revolvers when they have children and keep them loaded.


Good move because I don't give a rat's ass about statistics but since you mentioned statistics, let me give a quick lesson on this subject...Now, pay attention...

1. The probability of my home being invaded in any given year where I live is X, not zero.
2. I value my life at infinity.
3. Multiply X by infinity to get the amount of loss if I die during an invasion.

See the problem or is your Euro pacifism interfering with the logical side of your guilt-ridden German brain?

As a test: Would you pull the trigger to protect your wife from rape and murder? The two scumbags who broke into your house already raped and killed your daughter.

There is always the non lethal ammo that you can buy that incapacitates someone up to 30 minutes until the cops arrive.
Maybe this is something Poland maybe interested in for self defense.
No gun permit required.
These people ship internationally.

byrna.com/collections/less-lethal-self-defense-ammo

@Novichok


Nope, we are just better at looking at statistics. You are more likely to use those gun against yourself, your family, or your family uses it to harm itself. Facts matter. Your gun is making your family more unsafe.


You mean events like this?

Child firing Uzi at Ariz. shooting range accidentally kills instructor, police say

cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html

There are states in which people are not allowed to drink alcohol or drive a car until they are 21, but some people seem to believe it is perfectly fine to let children handle guns.

Never had an injury; much less a death at any shooting event over the many hundreds I've attended. I'm sure for every child involved gun incident; we can find double the amount of EU children sold into the sex trade.

I'm sure you can't.


There's also tasers which themp9lice use in emergencies and there's also something even better; not having firearms available to the public.


It seems strange that a 20 year old can't go to a bar.

Absolutely.
I was introduced to my first gun when I was seven years old and by ten years old I qualified as a sharp shooter.
I was taught all the safety rules that go along with handling a gun safely.
(I won't go into them because they have already been posted here a 100 times now)
Like anything else, this is how kids LEARN the do's and don'ts of handling a fire arm while you Libitards teach them, "If you see a gun it's a BAD thing and don't touch it, call a parent and show them."

Kids are kids and I would much rather have a kid that knew how to safely have sex, safely how to handle a fire arm and safely how to drink alcohol because they are all going to try them sooner or later.

Dumbing down kids like YOU have been indoctrinated about guns is one of the main problems with firearms accidents. (Lack of proper education)
Now if you don't want guns in Poland's culture, that is fine with me and I respect that.
Outlaw all the gun video games in Poland too that kids thrive on.
Our countries culture with more guns than people are for hunting, home protection from bad guys that abuse guns, sport shooting, collectors, heritage, and on and in our culture so I will respect your culture if you respect mine.

Thread closed

Having a wet dream of being a mod in not actually being one

While things are changing constantly I still don't think there is any serious movement to ease him laws in Poland. All the Americans can go hug their guns.

You have worn that line out, Hon.
I posted that because this thread has been rehashed so many times that it has become insanity at best.
Time to close it.


I agree ever since jon357 pointing out that vodka is Poland's national drink, it makes total sense why the people of Poland should not be allowed to have guns in their homes plus the 70% domestic violence issues in Poland. Yikes !


If I did, I bet it wouldn't be as cold as you are. 🥶

Hey, moron, using your statistics I should never have a car because statistically I could get drunk, speed, and kill somebody.

The problem with your idiotic statistics is that I don't drink, don't speed, don't play with my smartphone, don't eat, and don't drink while driving. Both of my hands are on the steering wheel and my eyes are on the road. Always.

FYI, my guns never jumped out of the nightstand and went on a killing spree, either. The only risk is that some azhole will steal them from me while I am away and do just that. Tough shyt..

He can also steal my car, get drunk, speed, and kill a family of four. Not my problem. People die every day...

Statistically, I am already dead so I can't have a gun accident.

What an idiot...

Knives are used to murder people.
Conclusion: Knives should be banned. When you want to have a steak, you call 911 and an officer with a knife will feed you.

A question for anti-gun Euro pussies:

Would you pull the trigger to protect your wife from rape and murder? The two scumbags who broke into your house already raped and killed your daughter.

As you can see, for them, owning a firearm is as dependent as smoking cigarettes. There is definitely a syndrome in psychology that describes this... because it is not normal.