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The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?


mafketis 37 | 10,946
11 Apr 2024 #2,341
Don't you also need to control for large scale gun massacres at schools, concerts, parades, sports events etc.

Not really, those have always been around they just get more publicity now (except for Las Vegas which everyone is supposed to forget)....

There are also 'party shootings' a black (and to a lesser degree latino) phenomenon.... there's a party and someone gets mad for a really stupid bonehead reason, leaves, gets a gun, comes back and then randomly shoots into the crowd.... (hose and pose, it's called)

steve sailer noted that you can generally tell the race of a shooter by the casualty count... if the wounded greatly outnumber fatalities then the shooter is almost certainly black, if the number of fatalities is large then it's a white or East Asian shooter)

liberals hate that but facts is facts
cms neuf 1 | 1,825
11 Apr 2024 #2,342
Yes but these are the facts we rarely have to confront or excuse here in Europe because we don't let people carry automatic weapons - it doesn't matter how good their aim is.
mafketis 37 | 10,946
11 Apr 2024 #2,343
these are the facts we rarely have to confront or excuse here in Europe

Yes, gun culture is specific to the US (and not going away anytime soon) but there's no real need for it in Europe.... different places, different norms....
johnny reb 48 | 7,199
11 Apr 2024 #2,344
It is a God given right to protect yourself from deadly threats by the bad guy.
Why would I bring a knife to a gun fight ?
If the bad guy has a gun then I should be able to have one too as a responsible law-abiding citizen.
I never go to a big Black city without my huckleberry strapped on.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,345
So what is your advice for Americans, Euros?

I want 5 legal and practical steps, not moaning or history lessons.

Don't forget that we have that document aka the Constitution.

It is a God given right to protect yourself from deadly threats by the bad guy.

What God gives, the king can take away from the bootlickers.

In Europe, you are supposed to retreat to the roof after he refuses to have a cup of coffee with you. Wife and kids? Fvck wife and kids as long as you are safe and follow the laws.

Man, do I hate Euros...It's hard to describe...
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,346
gun crime in America

There's so much of it.

In Europe we prefer to walk the streets at night without having to wonder if someone is hiding a gun.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,347
In Europe we prefer to walk the streets at night without having to wonder if someone is hiding a gun.

Drop that "prefer" crap...

In Europe, nobody gives a fvck what you prefer.. You are told what you prefer and you have no recourse.
We can sue and win. That's what happened in Illinois, the last state to allow concealed guns because the fed court told the state to do it or else...

So what is your advice for us, Mr. Prefer?
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,348
obody gives a fvck what you prefer..

We do, and we choose our governments accordingly.

We can sue and win

And you can sue and lose.

You keep your gun problem over there. We prefer our way over here.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,349
And you can sue and lose.

You can vote and lose since these actors you elect are under no obligation to follow what they lied to you about to get your vote.

Many Americans are suckers. Euro suckers operate at Santa level...where reasoning is viewed as child abuse...

So what is your advice for us, Santa?
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,350
these actors you elect

You elect those. Reagan for example.

under no obligation to follow

Then they get voted out. That is going to happen this year.

Americans are suckers

Slightly less than half of them, certainly.

However in Europe, we don't want your gun problems.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,351
Then they get voted out. That is going to happen this year.

...and nothing of substance changes...Would you want me to quote the definition of insanity?

we don't want your gun problems.

You are at it again...Nobody gives a shyt what you want.

Did Germans, Brits, and Swedes want the hordes of smelly human garbage by the millions? Before, like a perfect brainless bootlicker, you say yes, find a link to a referendum or a poll. Please do not insult me again with that BS about voting. I voted in "communist" Poland, too, for party hacks.

At least then I knew it was a theatre for the obedient and the stupid. Today, you are both.

So what is your advice for us, Mr. Vote?
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,352
and nothing of substance changes

Where you are maybe. In Europe it does.

Nobody gives a shyt what you want

They do, since in Europe the overwhelming majority want the same thing. No guns.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,353
Hey, Euroholes, answer this question or shut the fvck up...

So what is your advice for us?

No history lessons, morons...
Alien 21 | 5,128
11 Apr 2024 #2,354
. No guns

No guns, no russians.
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,355
@Alien
We're happy with neither!
Lenka 5 | 3,521
11 Apr 2024 #2,356
So what is your advice for us?

Do whatever the hell you want. Just don't try to push it on us.
Robin1988 7 | 48
11 Apr 2024 #2,357
lets look at it from house buying point of view, after guns are gone US will be a prime location for immigrants again!
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,358
Just don't try to push it on us.

Nobody cares what you do about guns. We are ecstatic that you don't have home invasions, rapes, and murders.

Since tanks and artillery are 100% useless here, would you want the US to stop making them?
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,359
Since Poles don't want guns, why do Polish cops carry them? To help the elderly across the street or for another reason?

They have a reason, right? What is that reason?
johnny reb 48 | 7,199
11 Apr 2024 #2,360
We're happy

Oh, so now you are Polish.
No jon357, you're an expat

Just don't try to push it on us.

Nobody is pushing guns on you, we are just trying to enlighten you on the subject.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,361
we are just trying to enlighten you on the subject.

...and waiting for what to do when two mean dudes invade my house at 2 am...
jon357 74 | 22,179
11 Apr 2024 #2,362
US will be

Whatever it will be or won't be has nothing to do with Poland.

Oh, so now you are Polish

MYOB.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,050
11 Apr 2024 #2,363
If you lived here

If I lived in America, I would have a gun.But you have to ask yourself the question why I don't feel I need one in the UK or Poland.

You Eurps have been told a hundred times now that the gun crime in America happens in ten of the biggest cities in America that are all Liberal Democratic

This is true.So why do people like you, who don't live in those cities still feel the need to have a gun?

We've explained this to them a hundred times already however they are brain dead to the facts.

I'll throw that straight back at you..........

I am still waiting for the first carjacking by a white guy in Chicago.

Oh, I see now, it's all about the blacks.......

Urban gangs (overwhelmingly black and latino)

So now it's all about blacks and latinos......

Don't you also need to control for large scale gun massacres

Exactly!
Novichok 4 | 8,229
11 Apr 2024 #2,364
But you have to ask yourself the question why I don't feel I need one in the UK or Poland.

I don't have to because there are no home invasions in the UK and Poland.
johnny reb 48 | 7,199
12 Apr 2024 #2,365
who don't live in those cities still feel the need to have a gun?

You must have missed it

I never go to a big Black city without my huckleberry strapped on.

That's why I feel the need to own one plus I like to target practice, plus I like to hunt and kill animals that I enjoy eating, plus I sleep better knowing I have a fighting chance against a home invasion, plus if you don't feel the need to own one then don't but don't tell me because you don't want a gun that I can't have one either.

Thats Liberal Logic
This is on post #2365 in this thread and no matter how it is put to you Liberal Woke's you will repeat yourselves over and over with the same, I don't want a gun so you can't have one either b.s.

As a responsible law abiding citizen it is my God given right to be able to protect myself from lethal dangers by any means possible.

With that said, We can now close this thread
If you don't want a gun, don't get one. Simple
Novichok 4 | 8,229
12 Apr 2024 #2,366
I read somewhere that begging to be spared works as well as shooting the intruder. He is a good guy who just made a mistake...

Also...Cops do not protect. They just come over to count the bodies and write a report. This makes me feel so much better...
jon357 74 | 22,179
12 Apr 2024 #2,367
don't feel I need one in the UK or Poland.

Some of them here are only talking about America. They don't grasp that European cultures are different and are not interested in doing the same as them.
Novichok 4 | 8,229
12 Apr 2024 #2,368
They don't grasp that European cultures are different and are not interested in doing the same as them.

We know very well that European cultures are different...Here are your achievements:

1. Feudalism
2. Colonialism
3. Totalitarianism
4. Dictatorships
5. Fascism
6. Communism
7. WW1
8. WW2
9. Gulags
10. Death camps
11. Holocaust
12. NKVD
13. Gestapo
14. Hate speech
15. Islamization

Not necessarily in any special order. You can sort it yourself if you wish.
mafketis 37 | 10,946
12 Apr 2024 #2,369
now it's all about blacks and latinos......

They're the ones overwhelmingly responsible for gun crime... why pretend otherwise?

Who's overwhelmingly responsible for knife crime in the UK?

here's an example of black criminals attacking an Asian-owned business (nb in the US 'Asian' means East Asia not South Asia)

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1778662611267023276

Good thing the owner had a gun...
jon357 74 | 22,179
12 Apr 2024 #2,370
Here are your achievements:

There's nothing wrong with feudalism or colonialism and what you stupidly call 'islamisation' doesn't exist. The others are all things that derive from nihilistic conservatism.

They're the ones

People?

And like 'novichok' and Jim, you're talking about America. Have you ever heard Poles, German, Brits, French, Dutch etc advocating for type of gun culture that e it's across the Atlantic? Maybe some nutter in a gym who has fantasies about violence however such people generally struggle to say why they'd want it.

The laws regarding guns in Poland are fine as they are.


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