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The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland?


jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,591
how confusing the crossing lines are

For whom?

I've never seen a mass shooting.

Sadly all too many have. Whereas "two thugs with knives" are fortunately very rare here; Poland doesn't have mass shootings. mass stabbings, just Sunday mass.

It must be strange and stressful to live in such fear that you feel you have to buy a gun.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,592
It must be stressful to wear seatbelts. I feel sorry for you.
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,593
It isn't, you shouldn't. However obtuse you're trying to be, there's no particular will in Poland to change the current effective gun laws.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,594
It isn't, you shouldn't.

Did you know that, like guns, seat belts can kill you? Do you wear them?

My point is that Poland, in this respect, is not much better now that it was under the German occupation and under commies.

All your posts are merely justifications of what Poles are not able to change, even if they wanted. Another version of the Stockholm syndrome.

My bet is that if you asked them if they want the American-style freedom of speech, the majority would say no or not sure.

Moronism is international.
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,595
even if they wanted.

They don't

Another version of the Stockholm syndrome.

Or just a developed, safe and cohesive society.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,714
6 Apr 2020 #1,596
Can you expand on that? I am not clear what you mean.

You can buy upper and lower receiver kits (receiver, trigger, barrel, firing pin, etc) and any other parts you need to build your own ar15 online. You can build one as cheap as 400 500 to several thousand depending on what you buy. Also depending on what kind of lower you buy you wont need to register it i.e. an 80% lower doesnt require registration but youll need a cheap mill/cnc for metal one unless you go with a cheaper plastic 80% which you can mill with a dremel.

Ive always preferred home made or home modified guns. As long as your not a prohibited possessor you can manufactyure your own guns you just cant sell them or make autos or sawed offs without atf paperwork... technically... my first home made guns were a slam fire 12 guage amd a bolt action 22.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,597
They don't

You make it look like a virtue. So, let me explain what virtue is. Virtue is when you can, but don't. If you don't because you can't, that's no virtue, wisdom or a bragging right. If that is too complicated, a convicted murder in a solitary cannot brag that he didn't murder anybody yesterday.

I hope this will help you in deciding where and when to give those awards for good behavior.
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,598
More limp attempts.to project the failings of another society onto Poland. It doesn't work, since there's no credible suggestion that the law will change in 5hat direction, and no proposed legislation to do so.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,599
More limp attempts.to project the failings of another society onto Poland.

Our limp attempts result from the Euros' attempts to smuggle the subliminal or in-your-face message that the US is sick and the Americans rate lower, if not at the bottom, on the cultural scale, as opposed to the opera-going Euro sophisticates, with the teachers being the prime examples, instead of the worst elements in any society. All because we have 440 million guns.

Somehow, Poles not wanting guns are not only excused, but used as an example of higher sophistication and culture. Americans having them are not. That coming from a nation that was cut up into pieces, erased from the map and restored only by the guns of others.

Did you know that those Jews who had guns and became partisans had a higher survival rate than the gun-hating Jewish pacifists who obediently went on their last ride to Auschwitz?
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,600
the US is sick

It is.

An astronomic level of gun crime, a society in decline, and people living in perpetual fear.

So unlike you're own country, Poland.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,085
6 Apr 2020 #1,601
Jewish pacifists who obediently went on their last ride to Auschwitz?

You have no idea how much your silly childish words may hurt those whom suffered the most, you might as well say that my parents went obediently to Siberia, you really have no clue , do you really think a polish villager with a gun from wallmart would have any chance against the German Nazi or Soviet Army's.

You bloody old fool.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,602
So unlike you're own country, Poland.

I don't own Poland. By accident, I was born in that miserable country.
And it's your, not you're.

White US, with 2 guns per adult, has the same murder rate as that o la la gun-hating France. Or Canada. Black thugs are not Americans. They are Africans. Don't confuse these two groups.

Poles, after the executions for gun possession under the occupation and prison under the commies, are just gun-fearing Pavlov dogs.
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,603
are not Americans

They are Americans.

US, with 2 guns per adult, has the same murder rate as that o la la gun-hating France.

The US has a murder rate several times that of France.

You bloody old fool.

Indeed.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,604
They are Americans.

No, they are not. The first word that comes out of them is "African". Real American use only one word: American. Neither do they hyphenate their nationality or ethnicity.

The US has a murder rate several times that of France.

In France, the non-white scum murders white Frenchmen. In the US, black thugs murder black thugs - with illegal guns, drugs, and rap sheets longer than that broomstick you will use to defend yourself with one day. If you don't see the difference, I will be happy to explain.
jon357 67 | 16,921
6 Apr 2020 #1,605
What a load of rubbish, your usual bile; it must be sad to be you.

And even sadder to live in such fear that you have to buy guns. Much nicer and safer here in Poland; even the capital is low in crime.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,085
6 Apr 2020 #1,606
Real American

My understanding is that it is a person who falls under the clause "Natural Born Citizen", most African Americans are "Natural born citizens", but rich you are not A "natural born citizen" you are an expat commie from Poland that America took pity on and gave a passport to so shut up.

Anyway Poland does not need your dumb ass gun laws because we don't have your dumb ass crimes happening here.

If I were you I would get down to wallmart and buy 50 cases of twelve gauge cartridges cos corona virus summer riot is coming to a mall near you very soon.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,099
6 Apr 2020 #1,607
Natural Born Citizen

I am,born in India to a Indian father to an American mother.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,085
6 Apr 2020 #1,608
That makes you a proper American you could also be a Brit cos of your dad being Indian.

Unlike Mazur who has no connection apart from the banana boat that took him to America.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
6 Apr 2020 #1,609
Anyway Poland does not need your dumb ass gun laws because we don't have your dumb ass crimes happening here.

So, don't you return the favor and never tell us what guns and how many we need.

Unlike Mazur who has no connection apart from the banana boat that took him to America.

Nice bait. FO.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,085
6 Apr 2020 #1,610
So, don't you return the favor and never tell us what guns and how many we need.

Where have I told u wot u can and can't have in the USA, I have lived in the USA and shot probably every weapon there is to shoot , I have also been out in the desert shooting against your best 50 cal pilots , so i know my guns, I don't need them in Poland unless I go to a registered gun range and fire off a few rounds with a hired glock.

Hey I feel safe here , its a really good feeling.

Keep your guns you are going to need them soon enough.

I'm glad you enjoyed the bait it was my (Ahole) pleasure.
jon357 67 | 16,921
7 Apr 2020 #1,612
Hey I feel safe here ,

So does everyone. It must be unpleasant to be perpetually in fear.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,099
7 Apr 2020 #1,613
Hey I feel safe here , its a really good feeling

I agree 100%,Poland is a very safe place.I have never met any woman carrying even a pepper spray or mace,You see them walking in early mornings from a club alone imagine that in Germany,France or NYC.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,185
7 Apr 2020 #1,614
I agree 100%,Poland is a very safe place.

You feel safe because you are not a "diverse", "multicultural" mosaic of madness like the US and, now, the Western Europe. You are also too poor to attract the "diverse", "multicultural" masses of useless human waste. That magnet is German. Lucky you.
johnny reb 29 | 5,420
18 Sep 2020 #1,615
Guns don't kill people, Dads with pretty daughters kill people.

Dirk was saying that guns sales in Poland are up by 30%.
This doesn't surprise me as we predicted this would happen years ago.
I guess the members here were wrong when they claimed the Polish people have no interest in owning guns for self defense.
I was also surprised to see that the country of Poland has 72 gun manufactures.
Poland has no problem building them and selling them but doesn't want their citizens to have them in their homes ?
The gun ownership laws to be able to have one in your home in Poland for self defense should be changing in the near future as the explosion of sales in Poland confirms.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,099
20 Apr 2021 #1,616
Dirk was saying that guns sales in Poland are up by 30%.

He is right,there was a time cpl years back I could just walk in my gun range and stay as long as I want in Poland but now I have to make an appointment and usually all lanes are full and have to get out when my hour is done.The crowd I see is of all ages including seniors over 70s.
pawian 176 | 15,374
20 Apr 2021 #1,617
but doesn't want their citizens to have them in their homes ?

Right. We don`t want massacres in schools, supermarkets and households in American style. Thank you very much. No need to copy all sick traditions. Halloween is enough. hahaha

The crowd I see is of all ages including seniors over 70s.

That`s a fad that will fade or even pass like all other before. Once collecting stamps was fashionable as a hobby, now it is range shooting, tomorrow sth else. Simple. Besides, it is understandable - during pandemic, people feel frustrated more so it is natural they want to get rid of negative emotions- shooting and imagining you kill your enemies is a good way to deal with your frustration.
Cargo pants 2 | 1,099
20 Apr 2021 #1,618
now it is range shooting, tomorrow sth else. Simple

Not with the courses offered here :iglica.waw.pl/ and one cant get a spot easily.
I would take the test and bring one here,but since the flat is closed when I leave Poland I am afraid for it to be stolen and in wrong hands even though I have live cameras recording,but what good are those after the crime is committed.

JR remeber there was a time the targets were with bin laden face lol I was thinking to print the BBC guys face and take them to use:))as I have all of them pics.
Lenka 3 | 2,563
20 Apr 2021 #1,619
According to the latest poll I could find (2017) :
- 65% wouldn't want to own a fun
- 69% is against relaxing the law

opinie.wp.pl/bron-dla-kazdego-polaka-najnowszy-sondaz-dla-wp-6172826289116801a
johnny reb 29 | 5,420
20 Apr 2021 #1,620
Yes, I checked out iglica.waw.pl/ and as all good gun ranges it looked like safety first.
It's great that Poland offers sport shooting, gun safety and familiarizing people with different weapons and ammo.

now I have to make an appointment and usually all lanes are full

Yes, I see that it is a fast growing sport in Poland.
And with 72 gun manufactures in Poland to lobby for gun ownership Poland should soon be a top competitor in the Olympics as more youth being encouraged to get involved in the sport.

65% wouldn't want to own a gun

Then that is their personal right and they shouldn't.
Those percentages are changing quickly however for those law abiding citizens that do.


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