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What age can a parent kick out their child in Poland?


Jackthecat
1 Aug 2024   #1
My cousin is 25, he never got a job, he dropped out of university because he couldn't be bothered. He lives at home and is abusive to his mother and father, doesnt pay them anything because he never worked.

Can my aunt kick him out with no legal repercussions? Is she obligated to pay for his living forever? Any advice would be really helpful as I'm so sad to see how it affects her. To be specific, they live in Poland.
Lyzko  41 | 9545
1 Aug 2024   #2
Hmm, interesting. Clearly the above would not be an issue in Southern ItalyLOL
Paulina  16 | 4384
1 Aug 2024   #3
Can my aunt kick him out with no legal repercussions?

From what I've read she would have to go to court with this:

odpowiedziprawne.pl/-wymeldowanie-dziecka-z-mieszkania

But before going to court it would be good if they gathered the evidence of him being abusive. If he's being physically abusive then they could report it to the police, so it would be officially documented - it would help their case in court.

The question is - are they going to be willing to do that? Do they want to get rid of him?

Btw, does the son have any mental illness? Is he an alcoholic or a drug addict?
Lenka  5 | 3471
1 Aug 2024   #4
My friend kicked out her brother after they signed the flat to her (they were in agreement about kicking him out) The difference was he wasn't really living there, just registered there.
Ron2
2 Aug 2024   #5
In Poland, an adult person is defined as someone who is 18 years of age or older, so your cousin is legally an adult.

The most important question is if he has any ownership rights to the house/apartment. I assume only his parents have the full ownership to it. In that case, he is legally considered as just a tenant because he is an adult according to the Polish law. If he doesn't intend to leave the parents' home, possibly the best way to deal with it is to demand eviction through a legal process. It can take time, but it can be done. The problem is that only a lawyer could take care of it as it requires paperwork, court fillings, etc.

Assuming he has no rights to the home, a brutal way might be to just change locks when he is away and put his stuff outside. However, I doubt that parents would do that no matter what... and it wouldn't probably work since he has a valid residency at this address, so without a formal eviction notice he can probably continue living there.

It is a shame such situations happen; there's no easy moral solution to them. Paulina's points about the abuse evidence and possible mental / drug / alcohol / Internet addition issues are good. Why don't you talk to your cousin since you're his age, motivate him, take him out to show possibilities, opportunities, or something... maybe he could talk to some therapist or a priest, someone adult who has an objective perspective. You may be the one who can make this change. Maybe he's got a sibling, they could influence him too after you talk to them. It may be the last call to straighten up his life.
Lyzko  41 | 9545
2 Aug 2024   #6
If said 18-year old has no prospects for either lodging, shelter, above all employment or food,
I can't imagine a parent above all actually having the unmitigated heartlessness to throw out
their own child, particularly if an only child.

Perhaps it's "legal", but that certainly doesn't make it right, much less just aka fair!
Should said relative or parent for instance, be willing to suffer the repercussions of
such action, then come what may. They make their bed, then they must lie in it.
Paulina  16 | 4384
2 Aug 2024   #7
maybe he could talk to some therapist

I think that unless he has some undiagnosed mental illness or was born a psychopath then there must be some reason why his cousin ended up being this way. People usually don't get abusive towards their parents "just like that", imho. Makes me wonder what was happening at that house when he was growing up. It's possible that the parents aren't saints either. So, yeah, he defenitely sounds like he needs therapy.
Paulina  16 | 4384
2 Aug 2024   #8
They make their bed, then they must lie in it.

I get an impression that Polish parents from older generations often fail to understand this. Their kids are often the way they were raised by their parents. It's like with dogs and their owners. Dogs are rarely born "bad", "aggressive" - they simply have bad or ignorant owners. We have a saying in Poland: "Czym skorupka za młodu nasiąknie, tym na starość trąci."
Miloslaw  21 | 4928
2 Aug 2024   #9
get an impression that Polish parents from older generations often fail to understand this.

That is not a good reflection of Poles and Poland but I think you speak truthfully.Very sad.....


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