i'm also curious if the book reflects the dialect or if there is a standard & the dialects for native polish people are mainly unwritten offically. your general opinion on books would be much appreciated, Mickiewicz is the most recommended writer so far.
Which books do native Polish people in Poland use to learn Polish?
They're kind of like similar books in America they're useless for learning Polish as a foreign language (the students already know the grammar).
Standard Polish has expanded greatly after WWII and most local dialects have become more like accents of standard Polish rather than having their own grammars. Silesia and the Tatra mountains and Kashubia still have relatively distinct dialects (though they two are becoming more like standard Polish)
f there is a standard & the dialects for native polish people are mainly unwritten offically
Standard Polish has expanded greatly after WWII and most local dialects have become more like accents of standard Polish rather than having their own grammars. Silesia and the Tatra mountains and Kashubia still have relatively distinct dialects (though they two are becoming more like standard Polish)
ah, i'm learning with english tailored materials & after enough fluency is built, thinking of focusing on polish only texts. i'd like to learn how write the same thing in multiple ways & not butcher the language, the exceptions, when to use what, inspiration from creative writers (i'm an artist & would like to start with polish instead of having to translate from english), et cetera.
Ola22
25 Mar 2017 #4
Z polskim na ty
I remember one great book - I read it a dozen times, first for myself, then to my kids. Kajtek`s Adventures by Maria Kownacka - about a young male stork which breaks its wing and is forced to stay with a rural family for winter. He meets all farm animals and other people from the village. Of course, he has a lot of amazing adventures, e.g,, the one depicted below when he devours fish (carp) that his carers brought home for Christmas. I have always loved that book and it was one of a few which taught me to love animals. Although, paradoxically, birds are my least fav ones.
The book was on a reading list for grade three in Polish class.
The book was on a reading list for grade three in Polish class.
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4 Jan 2021 #6
My wife gave me ELEMENTRAZ by Marian Falski,lol 25 years and I still didnt finish it.
Aa, yes, a famous book. We did it in the first grade. You need to catch up soon.
A-L-A M-A K-O-T-A. Ala has a cat.
A-L-A M-A K-O-T-A. Ala has a cat.
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I used a primer for native speakers daating way back to the Communist days, probably from the '7O's, entitled "PRACOWITA MATKA"..
Dave Peter Polski
5 Jan 2021 #9
They don't. The language is jibberish. Sounds like a scratched record! No reading involved.
"PRACOWITA MATKA" has no ancillary audio-visual materials included of which I am aware. Moreover, the grammar was very thorough, if unidiomatic:-)
I never heard of or seen Hard Working Mother.
Lyzko, you said it is for native speakers. Which country?
Lyzko, you said it is for native speakers. Which country?
I never heard of or seen Hard Working Mother.
Maybe he's confusing her with Kobieta Pracująca....
youtube.com/watch?v=uyfl_iupgQo
For Poles learning their own language, naturally. Always best for serious foreign learners to learn the target language IN the target language!
Out of curiosity I tried to google it but with no result.
It was long ago and so Maf might be right.
No, maf was joking about a famous character from a Polish comedy series from 1970s. hahaha
It was nearly thirty years back!
Fifty. :)
The book was on a reading list for grade three in Polish class.
Another one for the third grade. I loved it even more than the stork`s adventures. Odarpi, son of Egigwa by Centkiewicz duo.. It is set in 1940s in Greenland, I suppose, and it is about an Eskimo (today Inuit) boy who gradually grows up and, through hard work and doing daily duties, becomes mature and responsible while he contributes to his family survival in harsh conditions in the North. The boy gradually acquires the basic skill - effective hunting - first birds, then seals, buffaloes and walruses. I especially liked the scenes when Odarpi tries raw meat, e.g., of a dead whale or hunted seals, or the content of the walrus stomach (lightly digested mussels). Extremely exciting descriptions!
Of course, Odarpi has a lot of adventures - e.g., when Inuit hunters kill a female polar bear, he takes care of the bereft cub and raises it.
What did I learn from the book? Probably I started considering raw meat a very exciting dish. hahaha Secondly - I could have gained another piece of wisdom from it - much more important than raw meat - Everybody has to work hard in the distant North in order to survive! :)
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The primer was from the Gierek Era, but I was only learning during the early 9O's:-)
Never heard of Pracowita matka either.
Elementarz Falskiego is kind of legendary - used at schools to teach reading and writing from 1910 to 1982 (in several editions).
Standard Polish is taught at Polish schools. Mostly, I think.
Other books used to teach Polish kids reading and writing: Litery or more recently Elementarz odkrywców, Elementarz XXI wieku.
Plus books for children both by Polish and foreign authors are read according to the curriculum.
Elementarz Falskiego is kind of legendary - used at schools to teach reading and writing from 1910 to 1982 (in several editions).
Standard Polish is taught at Polish schools. Mostly, I think.
Other books used to teach Polish kids reading and writing: Litery or more recently Elementarz odkrywców, Elementarz XXI wieku.
Plus books for children both by Polish and foreign authors are read according to the curriculum.
Terrific, kaprys:-) Will have to ck. those out as well.
Nasz elementarz used several years ago. Divided into four parts for every season. You can see the parts online
naszelementarz.men.gov.pl/podreczniki-klasa-1/
naszelementarz.men.gov.pl/podreczniki-klasa-1/
Good to know. What do you think of "FLEKSJA POLSKA" by J. Tokarski for a solid review?
@Lyzko
Just googled it - I don't think it's for children :)
Just googled it - I don't think it's for children :)
Oh, of course not, I meant solely for Matura prep:-)
@Lyzko
Matura focuses on different things really.
That looks like a book in linguistics.
Matura focuses on different things really.
That looks like a book in linguistics.
True. Perhaps then for advanced Polish university students.
Merely a postscript, but even for non-Polish, Anglophone learners such as yours truly, Tokarski's book systematically covers all the required inflections in comprehensive depth, don't you think?
Merely a postscript, but even for non-Polish, Anglophone learners such as yours truly, Tokarski's book systematically covers all the required inflections in comprehensive depth, don't you think?
covers all the required inflections
That must be a fascinating read. I will definitely order it. :):)
A potentially tortuous read at worst, an exhillarating one, once mastered, at best! I can only recommend it for any serious students of Polish.