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Ideas of messianism of Adam Mickiewicz - more info needed


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7 Dec 2006 #1
hey everyone..i am a student of Polish language,first year, and writing a seminar, about Mickiewicz. The title is: Ideas of Messianism of Adam Mickiewicz. Please anyone, if you have anything on this subject, i would really really appreciate it, ia am kind of in a hurry and there is not much said on this subject in my country Slovenia.. I would really like it if anything you send me would be in English, because i am only a beginner in your language, if not, no problem also.

So if you have anything you said about in your school,college,articles,thank you very much!!!
Tanja
Wzsystko dobrze:)
hello 22 | 891
7 Dec 2006 #2
Adam Mickiewicz was one of the greatest Polish bards. When you do a surver in Poland and ask about the Polish most memorable author, 80% of Poles would mention him.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
7 Dec 2006 #3
But the problem is that most of them wouldn't be able to say much about things he wrote, because they aren't "easy" and these I had to read in high school seemed to be simply... weired.

Mickiewicz thought that Poles are a kind of... a chosen nation, which has some special mission... and I think that in his opinion It was that Poles through uprisings and suffering should encourage other nations, which like Poland were in 19th century under foreign occupation, to fight for their freedom... but I'm not 100% sure about that. Maybe someone else will write more.
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7 Dec 2006 #4
thank you for your answers, especially you gregorz...anyone else:)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
7 Dec 2006 #5
Wait ! It looks that I was wrong. :) :)
miranda
7 Dec 2006 #6
bards.

he was not a bard but a poet to be exact,
the rest you could google in english
Good luck:)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
7 Dec 2006 #7
gotowce.com.pl/prace/781_mesjanizm_mickiewicza_a_mesjanizm_slowackiego .htm

Looks like that what I wrote is rather messianism of Juliusz Słowacki... Mickiewicz believed in that special mission... he thought that Poland was... a Christ of nations :) and through own suffering should somehow liberate other nations, but unlike Słowacki he wasn't calling for fight, rather to wait for some savior...

So you see that dude was weired :)

There's plenty of things about that in Polish, you need to wait for someone, who will translate them better.
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7 Dec 2006 #8
hehe:)tnx again:up:)fcourse he was weird, otherwise, we wouldnt have him as a theme on our essays...did you ever make an essay about someone normal:)

btw,nice english grzegorz
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
7 Dec 2006 #9
Can someone do my homework for me. I'm too lazy to do it myself.
miranda
7 Dec 2006 #10
I know, I suggested that she should goole info in english and she dismissed me, flirting with Grzegorz instead!!!!!!!

you are very welcome
rafik 18 | 589
7 Dec 2006 #11
hey everyone..i am a student of polish language

why did you choose Polish.Just courious:(
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7 Dec 2006 #12
ok, i am not asking you to do my homework,that's a bit over reacted , don't you think? I am simply asking you to help me a little, as true Polish people and people that did have this in their schools and should know it best, because i don't have much literature translated in my language, everything else i have is google, so of course, i wanna try some other resources??

rafik, i chose Polish, because of pragmatic reasons:)
and because i like the language, its quite similar to my native language and my mother lg.also(Serbian)
p.s.-so what if i am flirting,jealous???:) :)

hows that possible,you re supposed to be a sociologist?
and not a teenager,26...
ok enough of that, i really could you use some more of your help,thank you again:)
miranda
7 Dec 2006 #13
I tried to help you - I looked at the websites on Mickiewicz, since there are a lot of them out there in English and you asked for english - correct? Grzegorz gave you a polish website, which you cannot read - correct?

.......so I just think that you have been cought red handed and don't want to admit it.
Teenage behaviour, so get off my back princess.
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7 Dec 2006 #14
i am looking for sth, as i said earlier, from somebody who had this in school, who has some interesting comments on it,some more polish sites..miranda if you dont want to help me, please dont answer to my posts, a am here for mickiewicz only,not interested in women anyways:)so, anyone else
krysia 23 | 3,058
7 Dec 2006 #15
Here are some sites which mention about his messianism. I studied Mickiewicz, saw his movies and read many of his books, but he uses hard to understand language and you have to really read into his works in order to understand.

info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/mickiewicz/grol.html
ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/405/254roddy.html
catholicity.com/encyclopedia/m/mickiewicz,adam.html
angelfire.com/journal2/post/john-paul.html
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
8 Dec 2006 #16
flirting with Grzegorz instead!!!!!!!

I'm flirting only with jay uk...
Babylon 16 | 192
8 Dec 2006 #17
He was probably a belarusian descent ask Lukaszenka president of Belarusia:) :)
poland2006 2 | 85
8 Dec 2006 #18
i am going to be taking polish schools again.. awww i am so happy.. the reason is beacuse i forgot my polish.. so yea.. hahhaha
witek 1 | 587
15 Jul 2007 #19
Adam Mickiewicz away from his Litwin origin. The first words of his Pan Tadeusz are: Litwa my Motherland...

By calling Lithuania his "Fatherland" Mickiewicz was referring to a region of the former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth he loved. Let us not forget that Mickiewicz wrote his masterpieces in Polish and that he was a Polish patriot as he died in Turkey raising Polish forces to fight against the Russians in the Crimean War in 1855.
truhlei 10 | 332
17 Jul 2007 #20
About Mickiewicz: for me he did more bad things to Poles that good, so if Lithuanians want to take him, let them do it :D.

I shall agree with you. Heretics such as Mickiewicz were enough damageful.
But as to his intuition of Fatherland, well I think it was not only common with him.


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