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Posts by JuliePotocka  

Joined: 19 Nov 2007 / Female ♀
Last Post: 1 Jun 2008
Threads: Total: 5 / Live: 1 / Archived: 4
Posts: Total: 188 / Live: 65 / Archived: 123
From: USA, Orange
Speaks Polish?: No
Interests: Opera, Art Galleries, walking on beaches, playing with my cousins

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JuliePotocka   
4 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

So - I am then, to receive back the 300 cities and villages that my Great Grandfather Szczesny Potocki owned, lol?

That would be a stretch. I have made a few attempts to regain properties, but people wanted money off of me, and smelled of a scam, over the last 12 years. I did write to the President of Poland - BUT of course, he lives in one of my family's castles, so why would I expect him to be honest with me??

My family was driven out during the wars, and many died, shot even on the steps of their homes. Because my greatgrandfather stayed a Polish citizen, I am entitled to a dual citizenship; but, would I have to pay dual taxes? Things that make you go hmm.

- Julie Potocka
JuliePotocka   
5 Dec 2007
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Heck if I can tell the difference! I have long calf muscles, long legs, short waist, big bust, wear small clothes (except bust, rofl), and can wear extra small to medium clothes.

I have brown eyes, dark brown almost black hair, wavy like my ancestors' paintings and photos. I played "do I have attributes of my ancestors" Sunday, and my friends could pick sections of the faces and hair that I looked like!
JuliePotocka   
14 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Ah, I don't know exactly what happened...all the information isn't what I have read.

That last quote, shows to me that this is much disgusting thought by John Rose; I'd rather the children be alive, no matter what country.

I find this uncomfortable, to really talk about. Why? One book, one night is NOT enough information to inhale, and make a judgement! Isn't 'Zionist' now racist?

People are people.

I wonder is, why they didn't try and claim the properties 10 years ago?
JuliePotocka   
17 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Celinski is correct, as far as I'm concerned. My family is Roman Catholic, and many of my family members were FORCIBLY tossed out of their homes by the Nazis, so the Nazis had a nice, comfy place to sleep, and control Poland.

Many of my family members died in Auschwitz, and they were Roman Catholic! I have lists, and some died saving Jews from the Nazis, as it was a death penalty to do so.

The Nazis wanted to destroy the Polish - they didn't care about us at all! We were there, simply to feed their propaganda machine.

Unfortunately, I don't see any information on this coming from any reputable paper. And if there were 10,000 people coming to reclaim land, perhaps it's counting everyone who's filing paperwork before the deadline - not just one group.

I detest racism, at any level. Grew up with it, thought it was over for most of the world. Seeing it on this forum makes me want to puke.
JuliePotocka   
17 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Love your sarcasm, dear. ;)

Well, so there's a difference between the Jews, and the Roman Catholics, in wanting their property back, people are saying? Am I defined by my religion?

I simply wish for the property that was forcibly seized by the Nazis, and then kept by the Communist Govt. and Govt., until NOW.

Celinski pointed out rather eloquently much how I feel; my family was skootched about, in the Eastern part of Poland.

Do I have a different set of rights, than the Jews? I don't think so.
Now perhaps my plans are different, because I wish to help the local economy in Poland, and live there half the year.

*I did try to pull up the link, but it's nonexistent - can someone revive it, or was it fake?

I feel that all people should be treated with respect, and if they are in the same boat as me, then they deserve to be treated the same; if the property was stolen, like it was from my family, then the Government has stated that they'd give a percentage of the value, or give it back. I'd then be liable for double taxation, between Poland and the USA, over a certain amount.

So, as far as I can see, the people occupying the homes would either stay, or have the opportunity to move to another location - with the local government working with both parties, to ensure things are fine for both sides.

My auntie was prejudiced, so was my great cousin, Alka. I just let them jibber-jabber, and go, "Uh-huh, uh-huh, whatever" because I felt the prejudism would die with them. I'm in shock and horrified, because these people were NEIGHBORS!! My uncles DIED to save many...one was caught with 23 Jews, and was shot on the spot. Another was shot in Katyn.

Another was shot during the Bolshevik Revolution, simply because the Russian soldiers felt like it, and torturing the horses. and who knows how many women they raped, as the soldiers plundered. The Russians 'apologized' for shooting him, but yeah - you can't revive him.

NEVER AGAIN, will we let prejudism define us, at least me. That is why we have left 'Auschwitz' as a memorial, correct?

But then, on the Internet, it's much easier to let insults fly, because you aren't face to face with someone...makes me ponder.

Just because your skin color or religion isn't the same as me, doesn't mean I won't treat you the same. I treat everyone with respect, and politeness. They earn my disrespect, by what they do to others, and me, and I don't mean rumors.

But then, one of my best friends in the Midwest was an Orthodox Jew, with one of her parents showing the number tattoos. Out here in S. California, I walk past Muslims, Jews, Orthodox Jews, Roman Catholics, Protestants. When 9/11 happened, we pulled together ever so tightly, swearing to NOT let what happened during WW2 happen again! We even protected the Sikhs, who wore 'Angels' baseball caps instead of turbans. Many of the working Muslim women have become rather skilled at camouflaging their head covering, with baseball caps and little hat coverings - hoodies are perfect. I say hello to one, who's very shy, and is bold enough to wear her head covering to work. We are a community, we must help each other!

Oh, forgot - another one of my friend's parents were in a Japanese/American Internment Camp. His dad was in the infamous Japanese/American fighting group, with high fatalities, to prove their Loyalty to America, and freedom.

So, yes - I feel the Jewish families have the same rights as I do, in reclaiming my family properties.

My family, and OTHER families died, sacrificing themselves, to help the Jews. I don't think they meant for us to give them a different set of rules, in the future when we are reclaiming property.
JuliePotocka   
18 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I was using my family to SHOW as an example, that EVERYONE'S family pretty much did the same thing. Many people died, and I do feel that a wholesale extermination went on against the Polish people for decades, while Poland was plundered for her resources. I also feel Poland better safeguard her forests, and that wood farming needs to be set up properly, so we will always have beautiful, untouched forests!

So - since when does what I say, mean anything about where the money comes from? Gee, let's see...in America, that would mean the taxes gathered pay for it, ergo your point is that the Polish tax payers would, too, NO DUH!!

I already STATED what deals they have lined up, I cannot speak for the government itself.

I also think perhaps age comes into this: if you are a teenager, you don't care so much, want to go forward with your life. If you're 30+, it's personal, you saw what it did to your family members, and how miserably they DIED, always wondering where the bodies are, so we can give them a proper burial, etc.!

NEVER FORGET.
JuliePotocka   
18 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

UN put aside the money back in 1945, for this moment in time - it was set aside to help settle the land issues.

My family was forced out of their residences, including one that is now a museum, 'Lancut'. Also has a carriage museum, of our forefathers. He was able to save the majority of the residence, and now anyone can visit - with those foot coverings, and no high heels allowed.

Anything else, smarty-pants?
JuliePotocka   
18 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

isthatu, for real, roflmao! So, the truth finally comes out - you hate Nobility! Do you hate the English Royalty and Nobility, too? I have been nice - really polite. Kid gloves are off.

The Polish Nobility created ahead of its time, what today we call 'Democracy'. Look it up.

You can complain all you like - you aren't going to change anything now or ever, are you.

Actually, the Poles who were in Kresy were given the lands for service, and that's why it was so easy for the Russians to cut the head off the Polish army - when you have the leaders in camps, and then kill them at Katyn, much easier.

And once again, their families and mine get our properties back. Words are meaningless - just pointless banter.
JuliePotocka   
19 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

AMEN, celinski! THAT is what it's about: ALL the VICTIMS.

wakeup, you kept asking me questions, so I kept answering them; ergo, of course I would try an empathize through my family, dear.

You just bait us, and then pretend like we are crazy Polska ladies, sitting on our dupas, when it was YOU who kept bugging me for answers.

And what you can't comprehend, from my examples, which is crystal clear: ALL Polish families deserve their property back, no matter what their religion. 10,000 isn't that many people, in reality, across Poland.

This entire thread is inflammatory, and meant to fan the fires of Racism and Hate. I feel like we're going backwards in time, instead of forward, yet I hear you saying that is going forward?

This is rubbish.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Which one is the Pole?

So, which one is moi?
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

I shall give a full answer tonight.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

[quote=kazia] Should be quite easy to work out which one you are . Did you not give a very detailed description of yourself (see below).

Then guess, Kazia, jump into the fun.

;> I'll give a full disclosure at the end.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Later...but I am fascinated by responses.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I love how it took you TWO entire days to come up with that response, isthatu.

You don't know Polish history, so stop pretending to comprehend it. You blew it big time, even though I gave you the elements, you are too funny.

Here's something perhaps more to your tastes: warsawuprising.com/paper/katyn_time.htm

Of course, this probably means nothing to you, either: katyn.org.au
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

All I'm guessing is the gentleman on the right is Polish, and the girl in white Ukrainian. Gentleman on left American. I'm not good at this, but my guess is Czechoslovakia for the lady in red.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Well, there was one excellent try, and it shows how looks can be deceiving.
L1) African/American
2) Ukrainian
3) English/Eu mix
4) Jewish
5) Polska

I threw you all off big time, because I'm wearing a red wig, and outrageous costume! Unfortunately my corset was too large, so it had a flattening effect rather than a lifting effect. Remember, it's a Halloween photo, so looks were meant to be deceiving. I also took measurements, and was surprised that I did indeed have the highest hairline; also, my widow's peek is showing, making the wig much more convincing, after dying my hair to match the wig. I had taken my gloves off for the photo, and I felt we were a class act for Hollywood Halloween.

It was amusing, because the door man gave me a Reel of drink coupons for best costume, of course which I shared with my friends.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Dzhaklin, I see we have the same tastes in dyeing our hair red, we could be sisters! You are very pretty (not hitting on you, just observation).

- Julie as Countess of vampires

This is one of my favorites, showing my face - but like the description says, I'm wearing a full set of fangs! I was in a full victorian dress a few years ago, and riding along in my friend's brand new SUV on Halloween. I can nearly speak without a lisp with the custom fangs, and I had great fun rolling down the window, hitting on guys. Unfortunately, one car full of cuties thought I was the real deal, and hit reverse, yiikes! Come on; Halloween in Hollywood, get the joke? Guess my friend's subtle makeup job on me was too good, a la 'Queen of the Damned' style.

Note: the spiderweb wings were purchased to go with the above outfit, and I just realized I never had pics of the two put together. I do have a theatrical side, and have spent too much money on costumes. You wouldn't believe how much the Emerald green with matching skirt cost!
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Miranda, that would be wonderful! We are simply all gorgeous gals...no wonder the men faun over us. ;)

Bring on the Halloween pics - perhaps we'll need a separate forum, if everyone wishes to join in.

One interesting thing I've noticed, are our eyebrow similarities, Dzhaklin. I knew that the way I did my eyebrows on that first photo was overly arched with makeup, thus bring attention away from me.

I admit, this is the first time I've really paid any attention to the ethnic looks. And I reiterate, that us Polska gals are simply adorable.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
USA, Canada / Polish Restaurant in Orange County, California [12]

beckski - Drat!

Fortunately, Warszawa has been in business for 30 years, and they are definitely still in business (I just hung up the phone with them, double-checking the information), with an online menu.
JuliePotocka   
20 Feb 2008
Life / Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it? [349]

In California and many other states, people have doctor's papers saying it's legal for them to consume or smoke marijuana, because it's one of the few things that helps with nerve pain. Not much else does, except expensive antiseizure drugs and some antidepressants. I've known many people who cut their $2000 medication bill down dramatically, with the help of medical marijuana - because it works when used correctly.
JuliePotocka   
21 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

Hmm...I think all us Poles also are the sweetest and most romantic of them all, too. ;)
JuliePotocka   
21 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1386]

E&B, you are strikingly handsome. Hitting Hollywood for acting?
JuliePotocka   
21 Feb 2008
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [619]

Easternslav is correct - hypothyroidism is rampant in many families, and in my mother's side.
Part of the issue is that they treat Hypothyroidism on a BELLCURVE, since the '70s. Before that, they'd give you the dessicated thyroid until you felt better. Today's dosage is at least half of what it was, out of fear of causing heart attacks; it never caused them! This single lack of proper treatment I believe has contributed to morbid obesity, Fibromyalgia, CFS, and created a way for the drug companies to make BILLIONS of bucks per year.

How much does it cost if you treat it yourself, with dessicated thyroid each month? $20!

I have the light olive skin, btw, unless I choose to obtain a suntan. After seeing girls in their 20s turn into wrinkled old ladies within a few years, I chose to stop tanning, and pleased with that simple life change, along with using sunblock.

I also have dark brown hair, 5'6" tall, with slim build, but busty. Many of my friends from Hungary and Poland seem to be naturally top heavy, so mostly separates when purchasing clothes. Brooches are a girl's best friend, too!