The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives 
 
 
User: Guest

Posts by Piorun  

Joined: 11 Nov 2007 / Male ♂
Last Post: 2 Mar 2013
Threads: -
Posts: Total: 658 / Live: 270 / Archived: 388

Speaks Polish?: yes

Displayed posts: 270 / page 1 of 9
sort: Oldest first   Latest first
Piorun   
14 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

I think I know what this nursery rhyme might be, and why you refer to it as about a spider. If you mean that you walk your fingers while reciting it in a similar fashion to “Itsy Bitsy Spider” Than this one is about chimney sweeper and it goes like this.

Idzie kominiarz po drabinie
Widzicie go to w kominie?
Piorun   
15 Nov 2007
Genealogy / Polish Tatar People and Names. [8]

Here's a link to the Polish Tatar's web page.
Very interesting. Everything - history to traditional dishes.
They even have a forum, so maybe someone can help you there.

tatarzy.tkb.pl
Piorun   
15 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

Put you right hand to the left and left to the right so that palms are facing out.

Then you start putting your fingers on top of each other starting with your pinky and moving up. This represents chimney sweeper walking up the ladder. Then you twist your hands without losing the hold of your fingers so that the hands form a basket with a thumb sticking out. This represents chimney sweeper in chimney.

This is usually shown to the toddlers to get their attention.

So the translation is

Chimney sweeper walks up the ladder
Do you see him in a chimney?
Piorun   
20 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

Julian Tuwim-Dwa Michały

link anikino.pl/dzieci.php?s=czytanki&id=36
Piorun   
20 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

Wow that’s a tall order.
I’m not brave enough to do that.
But there must be at least one brave soul on this forum to take on this challenge.
Piorun   
21 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

Two Michaels went to the ball
One was short - the other tall
When the tall one started prancing
The short one could not keep up dancing

When the short one could not keep up dancing
The tall one stopped prancing
When the tall one stopped prancing
The short one started dancing

When short one could keep up dancing
The tall one started prancing
When tall one started prancing
The short one could not keep up dancing

The short one started to whoosh
The tall one gives him a push
Both Michaels started to fall
Two Michaels at the ball

This is just a rough draft but you get the sense of it
I would also change the next to last line to something like
They push they shove they fall
Piorun   
27 Nov 2007
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

I can remember the words, but there's the one about the man who lost his glasses.

Julian Tuwim-Okulary

anikino.pl/dzieci.php?s=czytanki&id=42
Piorun   
30 Nov 2007
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

I found 2 new Polish beers today Harnas and Piast has anyone tried these?

Harnas Piast both OK
Does anyone know what happened to Okocim Zagloba?
I haven’t seen it for a while in a store, so I asked manager. He said that it’s not produced anymore.
Is that true?
Piorun   
5 Dec 2007
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1033]

You have withered like a herring

and tell me what it means?

Probably you lost some weight or something

Le Je BuBu

Maybe- idzie bobo? or lezie bobo?
Here comes the boogyman
Piorun   
13 Dec 2007
Food / Why carp for Polish Christmas? [157]

Why carp for Christmas?



Since Christmas Eve is technically a Lent (although abolished by Vatican few years ago) Fish is a must have dish. Fish is also an ancient symbol of Christ and Christianity. Although there are many fish dishes served on Christmas Eve the most common fish dish in Poland these days is Carp. There are many reasons for the popularity of carp. The carp inhabits standing and running fresh waters. For the first time the species was domesticated in China in the V c. BC. In Poland carp husbandry dates back to at least mid XII c. The earliest mentions of carp in the Zator Region date from the XIII c. The carp culturing centre situated here has been one of the most important of its kind in Poland since the middle ages. The flavor value of the Zator carp was appreciated by Polish kings, who were importing it onto their tables for years. In 1508 the Principalities of Oświęcim and Zator supplied the court of Sigismund I the Old with several dozen tonnes of the fish. The watercourses supplying water to the ponds were then a subject of many wrangles. In 1513, in a feud over water supplying ponds in Laskowa, Wawrzyniec Myszkowski, the castellan of Oświęcim, killed Prince of Zator, Janusz. As a result of this murder, the Principality of Zator was incorporated into Poland. Carps cultured by Adolf Gasch from Kaniów near Czechowice gained fame at the Berlin agricultural exhibition in 1880. Since then they have been called Galician carps - from the German name: "galizische Karpfen-Race"). This Carp is a must have fish dish on Christmas Eve. Given the history of carp in Poland carp is considered a fish fit for Kings. And as this poem shows carp and other variety of fish have been a traditional dish on Christmas Eve.

Did you know that some Poles keep one or two scales from the carp that was slathered for Christmas Eve in their wallet as it supposed to bring good fortune?
Piorun   
13 Dec 2007
Food / Why carp for Polish Christmas? [157]

In modern times, the fish outline symbol is experiencing a comeback. It is commonly seen in the form of a bumper sticker or casting mounted on the trunk lids of cars. The body of the symbol may be empty, or may contain a name ("Jesus" or "ICTUS"). This has inspired some Secularists, Atheists and promoters of the theory of evolution to mimic the Christian fish symbol with one of their own. It usually has "DARWIN" in the body of the fish, and little legs underneath. This has prompted "fish wars" between supporters of the secular and religious symbols.

But I see you're supporter of the new age movement.
Piorun   
13 Dec 2007
Food / Why carp for Polish Christmas? [157]

no - just aware of the facts

Before Christianity adopted the fish symbol, it was known by pagans as "the Great Mother", and "womb". Its link to fertility, birth, and the natural force of women was acknowledged also by the Celts, as well as pagan cultures throughout northern Europe. In certain non-Christian beliefs the fish also has been identified with reincarnation and the life force. In pagan beliefs, Ichthys was the offspring of the ancient Sea goddess Atargatis, and was known in various mythic systems as Tirgata, Aphrodite, Pelagia, or Delphine. Greeks, Romans, and many other pagans used the fish symbol before Christians. Hence the fish, unlike, say, the cross, attracted little suspicion, making it a perfect secret symbol for persecuted believers. So the early Christians made practical use of this symbol for practical convenience. So yes it was adapted by Christianity. But it has nothing to do with the age of pisces. Just because pisces is represented by the symbol of fish it has nothing to do with Christianity. So get your facts strait.
Piorun   
17 Dec 2007
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1033]

Yes it is but you also say Bo cie bobo weżmie( boogyman will take you) or straszy bobo
Very old people use to use this word for ghost and judging from the word lezie it is a bit archaic.
Piorun   
17 Dec 2007
Language / Short Polish<->English translations [1033]

Is that a particular region of Poland where you may hear that?

Southeastern

I have just looked it up

BOBO to po polsku straszydlo, potwor.

przynajmniej w krakowskim, straszono dzieci, "przyjdzie bobo i Cie zje."
Piorun   
3 Jan 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

ok...so Ive heard my grandmother using this word...and I understand it means *dog's blood*....what I dont get, is why that is considered offensive/a swear word.
Why??? Doesnt make much sense to me...
is there some origin behind it, to where it has some deeper meaning?

The origin of “Psia Krew” goes back to Polish Tatar wars and later to the wars with Turks. Both of those groups call all unbelievers “infidels”; we on the other hand used to call them “dogs” and their religion “Psia wiara” (The religion of a dog). Some claim it’s due to the way their language sounds to us. So the worst insult to any Pole at that time used to be “Psi synie” (son of a dog) another words “Bastard” (not just any kind of bastard, but the worst kind imaginable at that time) hence “Psia Krew” (Dogs Blood). Psia Krew=Bastard not literal translation of (Dogs Blood), hope this clarifies the meaning of the word.

My grandmother was polish and my mom sometimes says words that she remembered but she doesnt know what they mean. Help me with this one, i'm gonna spell it pheoneticly, yanna ka hanna

Jesteś kochana=you are loved (someone very sweet) or
Jedna Kochana (Jedyna Kochana)=only one I love
Sorry to disappoint you not a swear word.
Piorun   
11 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Brand new TUR it's designed as a cheaper and safer alternative to the Humvee.
amz.pl/en/military_vehicles/news/tur/tur



Nysa van was produced in Nysa, Poland from the 1950s to the early 1990s
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nysa_%28van%29

Syrena was a Polish automobile model manufactured from 1957 to 1972 by the Fabryka Samochodów Osobowych (FSO) in Warsaw
autohistories.com/fso/syrena.html

Warszawa was a Polish automobile marque manufactured from 1951 to 1973
autohistories.com/fso/warszawa.html

Polonez Around the mid-to-late seventies FSO
autohistories.com/fso/polonez.html
Piorun   
13 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

One question Osioł. Is that you in action doing the Tractor Drift with your Polish friends?

youtube.com/watch?v=ylgSoYno2TI
Piorun   
13 Jan 2008
News / Original cars manufactured in Poland [64]

Old polish promotional video for URSUS.
In order to get some contracts for export they traveled through 11 countries of Middle East.
58 c in the caravan, definitely not fun.
Piorun   
18 Jan 2008
Life / Polish Nursery Rhymes [243]

yez un ye shiz te (no idea what it is)

Just a guess, could it be 'już je szyją' or 'już są szyte' ?
Piorun   
19 Jan 2008
Food / Polish Milk Soup [72]

chav

It's Szczaw = Sorrel
Personally I hate milk soups, but Sorrel Soup is not bad.
Piorun   
30 Jan 2008
Life / Polish folklore/legends [58]

Here you will find a ton of Polish legends.
PODANIA I LEGENDY POLSKIE RUSKIE I LITEWSKIE univ.gda.pl/~literat/podania/index.htm#spis
Legendy spod Giewontu e-zakopane.pl/legendy/spiacy_rycerze.html
Piorun   
5 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

The Arab countries, and the UN are responsible for letting them fester in refugee camps for 60 years without doing a thing to solve the problem.

Look at the map and see for yourself how many refugee camps are located on lands controlled by Israel.

In addition to those who fled Israeli territory, about 100,000 Arabs in Israel were displaced from their own villages. Many left willingly and were assured that the eviction was a temporary security measure. In particular, the residents of Ikrit and Birim have been trying to return to their villages along the Lebanese border since 1948, but have not been allowed to do so despite repeated rulings of the Israeli supreme court.

Other arabs were driven out in the fighting (not 700,000)

Palestinian Arabs who fled or were forced out of their homes during the fighting.
Estimates vary from about 520,000 (Israeli sources) to 726,000 (UN sources) to over 800,000 (Arab sources)

The Arab countries are responsible for not letting the palestinians set up an independent state during the 19 years they controlled the west bank and gaza.

Following the Six Day War, In 1967 Israel occupied the additional 22 percent of Palestine that had eluded it in 1948, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It also occupied parts of Egypt (which since were returned) and Syria (which remain under occupation). Yet Israel has not set up an independent Palestinian state, but Israel exercised full or partial control over 97 percent of the West Bank and 40 percent of the Gaza Strip, while the Palestinian Authority (PA), established in 1994 pursuant to the Oslo Accords, had full control over the rest.

The palestinians are responsible for rejecting the partition and starting a war and creating their own refugee problem.

The original population of what is now Israel was 95 percent Muslim and Christian. And yet, Muslim and Christian refugees are not being allowed to return to their homes in the current "Jewish state." Israeli peace negotiators refuse to even discuss the possibility of applying this UN guaranteed right. Why? Because that brings us back to the original issue, claiming their property confiscated by the Israel.
Piorun   
8 Feb 2008
Genealogy / Polish surname Gil. My ancestors were from the town of Widelka. [74]

mysterychix - Iwona Dakiniewicz, a Polish researcher affiliated with the Polish Genealogical Society of America, who researched the Widelka parish records and Gil family. You might want to contact them or visit Ptak family page. She did some research for them so if you e-mail them they might be able to tell you how to get in contact with her.

Cetnarski and Ptak Family Page
h**p://home.earthlink.net/~billcash.polish/

Polish Genealogical Society of America
email - PGSAmerica@aol.com