Real Estate / Making an offer for Polish houses [30]

Mark, you already know that I am a builder. Its been made perfectly clear in earlier posts.

If you offered me 60% of the asking price for a property I owned I would tell you to fcuk off, in fact, I would tell you to fcuk of anyway as you are an idiot.


Are you sleeping on the streets?, do you rent somewhere to live? I would say that property is compulsory, whichever way you pay for it.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

And below you can read an extract from the Warsaw Business Journal, in which, the Polish government will put up another barrier for the provision of affordable housing in Poland. Like interest rates, construction materials are cheap at the moment but as the "financial crises" sorts itself out, prices will rise. I also note that two of the largest developers in Poland are about to start new projects in Krakow with a starting price of 8000 PLN m2. Whether you think that they can sell them or not is immaterial, the one thing I am sure of is that they are not going to be selling them for 2000 PLN m2.

Families on their own
17th May 2010

Plans to change the state's mortgage program have some worried.

"Let's be honest ... [the government] is trying to suffocate the program," Mr Bielecki said.
"It takes two years from the time I make the decision to build to the time I start selling - which is the moment I get construction permits," he stated. "When the government says it will do something in a year, it usually gets done in five years or not at all ... so I can't make any decisions now."

Mr Bielecki also said, limitations, on the total area of homes covered by the program was "complete nonsense" and contradictory to the government's pro-family policy. Moreover, in his opinion the price per square meter limit is unrealistic because time constraints, rising building costs and demand could force prices over the threshold.

Study / Any one know about WARSAW INTERNATIONAL COLLEGE & Is it good one ? [13]

Not sure if this is quite correct as I have just been granted permanent residence. I have lived here for 7 years but never worked.

Life / What are the poorest regions of Poland? [15]


I "here-tell", that we are in Afghanistan and Iraq to bring democracy to the people. Do you believe that as well?

Law / Non-EU country citizen on tourist visa - could anyone help me with Karta Pobytu? [63]


Not technically correct. I received mine in April and I have not worked since 2004. I have only had a NIP number for the past year. Maybe the authourities have treated me as an exception but it seems that you get told different, criteria requirements, whichever office you contact.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

And, a further report.

Warsaw Business Journal
Primary market appeal

26th July 2010


What part of "there is a shortage of new builds" did you not understand?

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Unfortunately, that will not solve the problem. Polish people who have jobs do not want to move away from their families/relatives to go and live in the big cities. Not everything revolves around Wroclaw, Poznan, Krakow, Warsaw etc. There are huge numbers of people who live in bad housing, especially in the small to large towns. They do not have much choice as the developers tend to go for the large cities where they hope to earn higher profits.

I would not worry about the empty new apartments in Wroclaw. According to Polsky (for the past two years), prices are going to fall to 1000 PLN m2 so they should all be gone soon.

And if you read the following artical, this company must also have got there sums wrong. It appears that there may be more empty apartments on the market in Wroclaw.

Warsaw Business Journal
Fadesa builds in Wrocław

12th July 2010

Developer Fadesa Polnord Polska has kicked off its first residential investment in Wrocław. Within a multi-phase project called Osiedle Innova, the company will deliver a total of 850 units. In the first phase of the development Fadesa has planned around 230 apartments sized 32-75 sqm. In the next few weeks the units will be sold at a promotional price of zł.5,957 per sqm. Fadesa Polnord Polska is best known for its Ostoja Wilanów project in Warsaw.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

No, you are wrong. Read following from todays news, not rumours from 2 years ago.

Breaking News

3 hours 46 mins ago
Reuters

More distressed property sales are expected in the next 12 months as changes to international regulations will likely raise the capital cost of holding commercial property on banks' balance sheets, an industry body said. Skip related content

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Growth in distressed property listings eased slightly in the second quarter of this year, but are expected to worsen in the third quarter, the UK Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) said on Thursday, based on the results of a survey of its members.

RICS defines distressed properties as those with foreclosure orders or which are advertised for sale by their mortgagee, and which tend to fetch lower prices than their market value.

Three European countries -- Portugal, Spain and Germany -- were worse off in the second quarter, reporting distress in their market had risen at a faster pace than in Q1.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Today's artical from Reuters answers your question. Poland does not have the biggest property bubble in Europe, or do you simply want to argue about the cost of construction in Poland?. Something you probably know nothing about.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


Do you mean the new flats that are going to be 2000 PLN m2? If you hear of any developers selling for this price, give me a shout, will you?

According to GUS, you will be buying at below the cost of new construction so you are onto a winner. I keep trying to find these articals that state that prices are crashing by 50%.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Oh!!!..I thought they were all the same per........ oppppss!!!! must not say that. I will get deleted again.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

The truth always suffers in the end. Anyone who produces facts and not fiction on here is threatened with suspension, whilst a total moron is allowed to disrupt and destroy any help which genuine, facual, information that people may be searching for.

You mods may just as well delete this thread, you have no idea how to do your jobs anyway. you must be the only people on Polish Forums that does not recognize this multiple spammer.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


You have no idea what this means. You have never provided any links to facts. Everyone bar you and your make believe friends is a liar, so how do you have a debate or discussion with normal people?

Your just a self opinionated, twisted, bitter, nobody. And there endeth the sermon.

Love / Maintenance for child born between Irish/Polish parents. [60]

The child is Polish as well as Irish. I would imagine that the Polish courts would accept that the father has to pay for the upkeep of the child. Take legal advice and then try to get him to agree to a voluntary arrangement as the courts may award a much higher figure than he thinks.

Good luck to you and I hope you meet a much nicer person in the future.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]

Wroclaw Boy

"After 4 days i was convinced it was a bad idea."

WB, I have known this for years. Last time I went back was in April 2006, I was disgusted with it then. My partner and the kids want to go on holiday there but I keep putting them off. It would be like visiting a very sick friend, you want to remember them as they were, not see them as they as they are now.

Whenever I phone family and friends, they all say the same as you.
many, wish they were younger so that they could leave and start again. I feel so sorry for, those who have retired abroad and cannot now afford to stay in their new homes, they have no choice but to return and will suffer for many years because of the last government's incompetence, wrecking the economy and devaluing their pensions.

I think you are making the right decision, staying in Poland. The UK is going to be very unpredictable for a long while. Like you, I rant and rave about the lack of logic and common sense here, but, better the devil you know.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]


Some 15 years ago, I remember talking to a friend who was an ambulance driver. He had just been instructed by his superiors, not to use his siren in the St.Pauls area of Bristol as it might upset the residents of this predominently coloured, part of the city. "They might mistake it for a police siren and it could cause them to riot again."

The writing was on the wall and nobody bothered to read it. I pray that Poland is never that stupid.
This is one of the main reasons I left the UK 7 years ago and there is no way that I would want my new family to live there. It is safer in Poland, even with the Polish drivers.

Travel / Fish and Chips in Warsaw [53]


Traditional, working class food!!!!....Just don't stand, upwind of the people you love.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]


I missed your second post yesterday (above) and it brought to mind a couple of letters I have recently received from Her Majesty's (Labour) Government.

The 1st letter was regarding my National Insurance contributions. Apparently, to qualify for a full state pension in 9 years time, I needed to pay 44 years of contributions and to date, I haver only paid for 41 years. They asked if I would like to voluntarily pay for the 3 years (some £900).

The reply I sent went along the lines of :- " I have not lived in the UK for 6 years and have no thoughts of returning. My health has not been too good for the past 3 years and I have had to pay for my medicines and my heart bypass operation myself. If I should live for another 10 years and if there is any money left in the governments coffers to pay a pension, I will make do with the reduced pension that you have offered. If HMG is so desparate for this £900, I suggest that they stop paying £12,000 per month rent for Afghan asylum seekers to live in 5 Bedroom town houses in Central London.

I have not received a reply.

Letter number 2 was even better. I received my 1st English "Tax-self assessment form" since I came to Poland, even though I explained to them in 2004 that I no longer work, live or have any assets in the UK. This promised to fine me £100 if I never returned the form on time. I duely filled in "none" in every box that applied to me and sent it back.

A month later I recieved a reply, informing me, that I owed £0.00 in tax. Accompanying this reply was some litriture especially for people who have moved abroad. It basically said that " If you come into a windfall, inheritance, lottery win etc, please inform us so that the correct tax can be implemented.

Yes!!!, as if!!!. They can go forth and multiply.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]

welshguyinpola

"Beacause I was brought up speaking English and I have the UK to thank for this"

Luck of the draw!!.if you had been born in India you would have learnt to speak Urdu or another dialect as well as English. I love England and I am dissapointed and heartbroken to see the decline of what was once a great country.

Giving people a "British Passport" does not make them English, nor does it give them the right to change the culture and history so that it does not offend their "alien" morals.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]

Then I hope that Poland never progresses, if the price to be paid is the same as whats happening in the UK.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]


Bollocks!!!.I and many of my friends started our business's up when she came to power. She gave us the incentive to work hard, to earn good money, and more inportantly, to be able to keep it.


Perhaps that was because she negotiated an £11 billion rebate from the UK's contrubitions to the EU and always refused requests to recind it.

UK, Ireland / Ive been in the UK for 6 days to relocate and im going back to Poland. [281]


Unity of Europe? what fantasy land do you live in?

between 1992-2002, France fraudulently claimed 500 million euros in illegal subsidies for fruit/vegetable farmers. The EU ordered France to repay this money by July of 2009 with interest, total now some 731 million euros. This money is still outstanding.

"Despite the bad smell left by rotten fruit and vegetable payments, France is already preparing to negotiate another stitch-up with Germany, as it did in 2002, to perpetuate E.U. farm spending at current levels until the cows come home".

Paul Taylor is a Reuters columnist.

You wanted the UK out of europe!!!...what do you think the English people want?

Real Estate / Noise levels from a building site in Poland [11]

In the UK, building works involving any noise near residential areas is limited from 07:30 until 18:00 on weekdays and 07:30 until 13:00 on Saturdays. No Sunday working is allowed and the local authourities will close the site if these hours are breeched. There are exceptions for the utility services such as repairs to highways which are busy in normal hours and emergency repairs to gas/electrical/water services.

Work / Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland [263]



Firstly, we need to look at the price of this car. $18,000 (say 3 PLN to the $) so 54,000 PLN against the Polish price of 68,000 PLN. We then have to add import duty and 23% VAT tax, not the 6% sales tax that is charged, i believe, in the States.

The difference seems to be in the wages earnt and the taxation in europe, not so much in the cost of the product.Now we could argue that the Americans are subsidised with their cars and their fuel costs (lucy them) but, Poland does not have a $11 trillion dollar budget defecite which at some point in time is going to have to be tackled. Lets see if there is such a price difference for products then.

In an Americans eyes, everything is selecetive, especially figures.

Work / Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland [263]

Sorry, I was a few months behind with the figures for the american national debt, it's $13.5 trillion, not $11 trillion.

Fairly close? Polands is running at 57% for this year and the States are running at 100%, in fact, its predicted that the interest payments alone will soon be higher than their GDP.

What does it matter, they print their own currency anyway.

Life / My own thoughts about life in Poland (have lived here for two years) [133]


No

Life / What is Nowy Sacz like? [20]

I was there yesterday at the specialist hospital. I would not call it a "pretty" town. It seems to be spread over a large area and has a terric amount of light industrial premises and car showrooms. It seems to be a popular place to move too as lots of people advertise for property there.

Love / Maintenance for child born between Irish/Polish parents. [60]


He is not the only one, here in Poland its a normal reaction, everyone else is to blame. I cannot believe how hard it is for a Polish person to say sorry!!!!, its always excuses.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


I think that personal income tax should be 5%, but that is not going to happen either.

Milky, you say you are Irish, which, should mean that your native language is English. Is this the case or are you just, poorly educated?

Travel / My (short) Poland experiences - bad luck? [142]


What is wrong with that? I happen to believe its better here than the UK. I have a good life and I can earn money here if I want to. my kids can grow up safely and I have everything I want. 7 years now and I am not tired of Poland at all. As WB will tell you, you're in for a shock when you go back.