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Posts by OdrowazP  

Joined: 31 Aug 2020 / Male ♂
Last Post: 26 Feb 2023
Threads: 8
Posts: 40
From: United States of America
Speaks Polish?: Not Yet
Interests: Looking to capture and preserve a little of my Polish heritage

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OdrowazP   
31 Aug 2020
Life / What it means to be Polish or How to be Polish? [14]

So...I'm Polish(-American). From what I could gather, my great-great-grandparents and great-grandfather came from Poland, also I'm apparently part of the Odrowąż clan (may do a separate post inquiring about that). Being third generational American, however, has robbed me of my sense of connection to Poland. I also married into a Filipino family recently, who carry with them a rich culture, which is just fantastic; however I also want to integrate and learn more about Polish tradition and customs, so I can pass down my heritage as well (which I didn't get to grow up with). So where do I start? How do I proceed? At age 30, learning the Polish language is probably out of the question, being apparently one of the most difficult languages for a native English speaker to learn. What customs can I learn and adopt? Wifey already has in mind making a sauerkraut recipe of hers a household staple, but what other Polish cuisines can I introduce (she doesn't eat beef or pork)? As Filipinos adopted El Dia de los Muertos from Spain and Mexico, does Poland also have it's own "Day of the Dead" customs? Anything and Everything, What is it and What does it mean,et cetera.
OdrowazP   
31 Aug 2020
Genealogy / What it means to be Odrowąż? [14]

In a similar thread, I was asking about how to be Polish, how to reclaim my ancestry, and not let it fall into obscurity. But what about my clan (or ród/ródy) of Odrowąż? I could be breaking my own sense of privacy, by my last name is a (Americanized) variant of Pękalski, apparently adopted into Odrowąż 1302. So what should that mean to me? Should I feel a deeper connection to figures such as Saint Hyacinth (or Jacek Odrowąż)? I could read up more on such notable members of the ródy, but what else? My only other idea is embracing the Odrowąż coat of arms/herb. Perhaps one or two wall art hang ups, especially in the baby room (if any). Little Polish flag flapping outside our home (with or without herb) might be a bit much or embarrassing for Wifey (fair enough, lol). With all that said, I turn it to all of you now: How do I make Odrowąż relevant to my life and the life of my new family?

(reminder: wife is Filipina)
OdrowazP   
31 Aug 2020
Life / What it means to be Polish or How to be Polish? [14]

@cinek
I guess I ought to learn at least some rudimentary Polish, as me and Wifey hope to vacate in Poland in a few years.

@cms neuf
I already know well of pirogis. Looked up on Youtube Zurek and Chlodnik with Polish Your Kitchen. I'm so fascinated!

Please stick to the topic
OdrowazP   
31 Aug 2020
Genealogy / What it means to be Odrowąż? [14]

@Mr Grunwald
First, the fly in the ointment, my family didn't have any traditions passed down to me. As for every other question: Nothing. )-:
Me a third-generational American grown person am or feel that alienated from any meaningful connection with the clan, if such can exist.
As of right now, any relation to the Odrowąż is by appearance entirely irrelevant to my life, but is it? Maybe it is?
OdrowazP   
31 Aug 2020
Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

@Rebirth
Seriously, there is far from enough evidence to prove the medical benefits of circumcision, no matter where you're from. People in ancient times did it for rite of passage into adulthood, except the Jews who did it shortly after the birth as a mark to distinguish themselves from most of their neighboring societies. The practice was only picked up again after some British doctor re-popularized the idea of circumcision in the 19th century. Among other reasons for this being to deter mast...uh...you know.

CAN circumcision help?
MAYBE!
But I'm more than positive you can find some guy out there (not sure why you want to) who is uncircumcised and will tell you that he's just fine.

Really, this thread seems racist against the Polish. /-:
OdrowazP   
1 Sep 2020
Genealogy / What it means to be Odrowąż? [14]

@kaprys
In all honesty, I've only traced my ancestry back certainly to my great-great-grandparents, uncertainly to my GREAT-great-great-grandparents, surname of all Pękalski, one of the families of the Odrowąż clan. Sadly can't get more specific than that. I may have to wait til next year to pay for genealogical assistance.
OdrowazP   
4 Sep 2020
Genealogy / What it means to be Odrowąż? [14]

dopiero

Sorry! I see dopiero is a Polish word, which seems to translate "only" "just" & "until".
So "Try to (only/just/until) it on your own" doesn't make sense to me silly American.
OdrowazP   
7 Sep 2020
Genealogy / What it means to be Odrowąż? [14]

@kaprys
Metrical records...like Church records?
I did find on a myHeritage.pl family tree the names of my great-great-grandfather and his wife (also correct name) who begot someone with the name of my great-grandfather. The tree goes on two generations later, but not through the man with the name of my great-grandfather; his line seemed to end. My assumption is that he went to America and continued the family to me, but the Polish myHeritage lost him. Also the tree doesn't show my great-grandfather's brother, who was born in America after my great-great-grandparents also moved to America. If my assessment of the family tree is correct, then I may have found my great-great-GREAT-grandparents as well (still named Pękalski). Just wish I could get beyond this guessing under probability and theoretical circumstances.

Once I can confirm the above, THEN "metrical records" can trace back further than even the internet?

PS
I do not assume that I am born of Nobility. I didn't think that's what being part of the Odrowąż clan meant.
Maybe I didn't ask correctly, but I still don't know what it's like being part of a clan.
OdrowazP   
11 Jan 2021
Genealogy / Double last names? - Zabawa, Czermak, & Zabawa Czermak? [10]

So I was building up my genealogy, bit by bit, and recently looked into my paternal Grandpa's mother's family. Thank heaven for newspapers, LOL! I was able to find her six siblings, mother, and short mention of her father Joseph. Find a grave helped me further to find her mother's grave with her father's name as well:

DROGI MAŻ I OJCIEC
JOZEF F.

Here is my new conundrum. My great-great grandmother's name is Mary Zabawa Czermak, naturally her husband's name is Josef F. Czermak. Using familysearch.com next, I found immigration record of Jozef, but with a second person's name: "Jan Zabawa",described as "uncle" (seems from jis mother's side) The Jozef I'm looking at was 15 at the time, by the way.

So would my great-great-grandmother have received Zabawa as a middle or last name in addition to Czermak by marrying my great-great-grandfather? Or is this a matter of coincidence that her middle name is the same as Jan's last name, regardless whether related, marriage or otherwise?
OdrowazP   
11 Jan 2021
Genealogy / Double last names? - Zabawa, Czermak, & Zabawa Czermak? [10]

@pawian
🤷🏻‍♂️ maybe my source is wrong, but it does provides photocopy scans of the original immigration record, but then again that might be explained by human error. But it is not common for women marrying to adopt multiple last names? My Filipino wife, for example, both keeps her last name and adopts my last name. No chance that the Mary in question couldn't have adopted last names from both sides of Jozef's family?
OdrowazP   
27 Jan 2021
Life / "Weird" "Strange" "Unique" Polish Customs [36]

Near the beginning I signed up, I posted a thread inquiring on "How to be Polish", but it did not get a lot of responses. I'm going to try again, using a new title, and a new format, to better explain what I'm looking for. What things do people in Poland do which are considered unique to, say, the West? Bear with me. Maybe not specifically in Poland, but Eastern Europe maybe. And my Filipina wife's culture, there's this traditional idea that unmarried couples should not flip cooked fish, otherwise they will never get married (don't mind the superstition). In Siberia, I hear that people tie ribbons to lower branches of trees as an act of prayer. Just recently, I was asking my grandfather where he got holding onto Silver for on New Year's Eve at the stroke of midnight came from, and he not only told me the origin being from his father, but also informed me of the importance of bread, butter, and whiskey/vodka as traditional elements an Eastern European tradition.

What other customs and traditions are common among Polish people and their neighboring countries?
OdrowazP   
30 Jan 2021
Life / "Weird" "Strange" "Unique" Polish Customs [36]

@Atch
I know what the title here says, but I'm open to "neighboring" traditions as well, a bit, even though I am specifying Polish too.
OdrowazP   
7 Apr 2021
Life / Traditions in a Polish Home [10]

Merged:

Moving into new home - Traditions?



Me and my wife just got a new home, and we're moving into it this July. Are there any special polish customs for this situation? Right before coming into the new home? Once upon entering the new home? Soon after following entrance into new home?
OdrowazP   
10 Nov 2021
Genealogy / Zofia Bekasz (Pękalska) [3]

I am reaching out to living relatives of a Zofia Bekasz, nee Pękalska, who may be the older sister of my Great-great-grandfather (Austria/Poland). I'd love to find her grave, proven to be a challenge, as well as that of her parents and other immediate relatives. Old photos and more information would be amazing!

Zofia Bekasz (Pękalska)
Birthdate: 1879
Death: 1924 (44-45)
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Jan Pękalski and Katarzyna Pękalska
Wife of Antoni Bekasz and Filip Biały
Mother of Paulina Głuc and Jan Jakub Biały
OdrowazP   
11 Nov 2021
Genealogy / Want to find a person [756]

Merged:

How to find Katarzyna Pękalska (Linda)



So I'm American, English speaking only so far, with no immediate way to get to Poland. What is the best way to find an individual of this description below? I've tried grave finder by the way, nothing.

Katarzyna Pękalska (Linda)

Gender:Female
Birth: estimated between 1814 and 1874 ???

Immediate Family:
Wife of Jan Pękalski
Mother of Zofia Bekasz
OdrowazP   
11 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@pawian

Leave them alone and let women decide...it is not your business and nothing that you can decide about.

I've been watching interrogation videos lately on YouTube starring parents who did not want to take care of their children anymore, so they killed them. That made me wonder: Why is it anyone's business what one person does or two people do to their own children? I mean, the children are not productive members of society yet. They just consumed resource. Why does society get to decide what happens to those children? Well maybe they are too much of a burden on parents, society even. Like, we should just leave every decision to pro-choice women, because that can do nothing but good, right? 🤥 (I hope the point I'm making is understood)
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@Novichok

Abortions should be limited to extreme cases,

Amen!
Catholic church, if I'm right, allows abortion ONLY under the circumstance that the woman's life is in danger AND the baby's life is ultimately terminal. The motive in this case, preserve life where a life can be preserved. I might be wrong on if it is the Catholic Church's ruling.

But abortion is mostly to save not life, but save lifestyle.
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
Genealogy / Want to find a person [756]

@Beata
Oh no! This person is deceased five generations back
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@pawian

Already born and fully developed children?

No I mean human being who already exist regardless of stage of development
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@Lenka

Can you please tell us what Catholic Church has to do with it?

Last I checked Poland is still a very Catholic country, making Catholicism a major source of our moral based laws.
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@Novichok

He could as easily be the originator of this thought and it would not be any less brilliant.

I actually hardly come here, rather just saw this thread and wanted to drop my thoughts here.
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@Lenka

What if it does endanger the life of the women but the baby is healthy?

An excellent and well frames question!
Don't kill the baby.

making Catholicism a major source of our moral based laws

Whoops! I shouldn't have said "our" because I am not an inhabitant of Poland. Just genetically Polish.
OdrowazP   
12 Nov 2021
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2971]

@Lenka

Can you explain to me why the fetus life is more important than the women?

If the baby is terminal regardless and an abortion saves the woman, fine. But if killing a healthy baby saves the woman's life, that's bad, as measures are still being taken to intentionally execute one life. In the prior scenario, the baby's demise is incidental, that latter must purposely destroy a life.

Both thr Woman and the Baby are of equal value. It is the Pro-Choice advocates who value one above another and dehumanizing the other.