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Last Post: 21 Feb 2021
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LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

I have a lot of problems with singing in Polish, because of the abundance of consonants and the second-last syllable accent.
In rock music it is particularly problematic for me. A lot of Polish rock bands prefer singing in English and it also bothers me a lot, because I wished there was more of Polish-language music, but when I listen to my own native language, I don't find it much surprising. As I stated many times before, Polish used to sound better during the pre-war time (look it up: Eugeniusz Bodo).
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

@mafketis
I think Polish language also tends to sound aggressive, because of lots of swear words in Polish. We have to admit, Polish people are creative in this, but it is not nice for my ear. It's weird that swear words in English sound much softer for me.

I read that some people were stating that Polish is like German among Slavic languages, is this true for some people?
Anyway, a lot of foreigners tend to recognize us from the K-word. And they also say that we are not the most cultured people, that kinda hurts me to hear that.

Also, I'm gonna tell y'all that it's unfortunate that Polish language doesn't have too many diphthongs that would allow me to sing better (no, I don't count nasal diphthongs like ą, ę).
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
History / What makes you feel Polish? [160]

My family's history and my family's sacrifice to save Poland from the hands of the oppressors.
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

Trying to make Polish sound more like English doesn't equal 'better'.

But it could sound like this, though.

youtu.be/2xlKRtF9FkE

The consonantal clusters however do.

There is an another factor for the fact some musicians find it uneasy to sing in Polish. Small amount of masculine rhymes. There was a time, when feminine rhymes were considered A MUST, when singing in Polish.

Source: fp.amu.edu.pl/frivolous-rhyme/ and the knowledge from Polish lessons at school.
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

The dark "Ł" sound isn't much common, nowadays. Many people in Poland think you have the Ukrainian accent, when you use it on a daily basis.

The dark "Ł" sound used to be an obligatory trademark of any person, who could use Polish properly.
Besides, nobody seems to care about the proper diction, nowadays. Mostly actors do that, but it's not like it used to be.

I think a lot of Polish singers over emphasize consonants

Also the Polish general affection for rough scratchy voices means too many singers aren't trying to produce clean sound

This! Thank you for an answer I wanted to get. I had that in my mind.
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

the modern pronunciation is probably better for singing (less obstruction)

Yeah, I have to admit, I even feel awkward, when trying to speak with "dark Ł" on daily basis. Dunno, probably because some might perceive me as someone somewhere from the East.

But rather than just complain look for models of vocal projection...

There aren't many singers in Poland I would like, except Paweł Birula from Exodus, Janusz Panasewicz from Lady Pank and maybe Józef Skrzek from SBB etc. That's just my personal taste.

Don't mention Czesław Niemen, because I find his vocals annoying.

In Poland there is not much of diversity in singing, since for example a certain way of singing (e.g. hitting the high notes) is considered "gay" or "queer".

Also the Polish general affection for rough scratchy voices means too many singers aren't trying to produce clean sound

Like you stated.
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Life / Polish TV is so goddamn awful! [7]

I mean, look at that. Politics are the greatest obsession of Polish people, every TV channel has some elements of politics, pseudo-documentaries (paradokumenty) are a real plague, also the Turkish soap opera. Disgusting. I just can't watch Polish TV at all, why can't we have something similar to the Western television, where there is some positivity? In Polish TV, there always has to be drama and more drama. At least in 2000-2009 there was Hugo on Polsat.

Billie Sparrow actually made a video on this matter:

youtu.be/5Kyu4Z-CcEM
LostSoul   
1 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

@jon357
I found out that Welsh is also a language with the second-last syllable stress. Well, that sort of explains, why I found every song sung in Welsh a bit "off".
LostSoul   
2 Feb 2021
Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]

DuszaStracona

It's "ZagubionaDuszyczka", actually. LOL

How then do you communicate successfully with educated English native speakers

Ordinarily.

Do you catch our irony, double entendre, constant puns?

No, because I have Aspergers. I don't catch the Polish irony, either.
LostSoul   
2 Feb 2021
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

@Atch @dolnoslask @mafketis @Dirk diggler

I'm afraid I would have to do the DNA test for my heritage, yet it's so expensive and there is a conspiracy that your organs might be sold, if you take the DNA test.

I'm allegedly of Polish noble descent, as my mother said (Pobóg coat of arms), but I'm not certain about the rest, later I'm gonna tell you all the details, if you respond me.
LostSoul   
2 Feb 2021
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

@jon357
Look at that comment section.
Not saying I believe them, though.

youtu.be/b1prSxRMBaw
LostSoul   
2 Feb 2021
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

This guy, despite being right-wing, has an interesting take on DNA tests.

youtu.be/HaoFfpHYyMo
LostSoul   
2 Feb 2021
Language / Am I the only person that can't sing in Polish at all? [48]

There is an another problem with Polish I have that was discussed on this thread on the 4th page (in fact, it's a continuation of this thread).

https://polishforums.com/language/biggest-problem-85425/4/

But rather than just complain look for models of vocal projection.

@mafketis

In Poland there is not much of diversity in singing, since for example a certain way of singing (e.g. hitting the high notes) is considered "gay" or "queer".

There aren't many singers in Poland I would like, except Paweł Birula from Exodus, Janusz Panasewicz from Lady Pank and maybe Józef Skrzek from SBB etc. That's just my personal taste.
LostSoul   
6 Feb 2021
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

@delphiandomine @jon357 @Ziemowit @Atch @dolnoslask

Thanks for responses.
I don't want to come off, as someone having particular leftist delusions, because I'm a centrist (I hate both left and right), but there are four issues:

- Poland is seen by mainstream media as a racist country, on top of that, many foreigners have that stereotype of Poles being blond-haired and blue-eyed.

- In Poland sometimes hate crimes happen, I think it's merely minority doing that, but minorities are oftentimes the most vocal about their views.

- I was always curious about my family's history, what they did, whether they were peasants or noblemen (I think I have some significant complexes about being peasant here, because village heritage is still badly seen in Poland, as they are "backwards" and voting for PiS all the time.

- Some Polish people, upon seeing people like e.g. Julia Wieniawa, Urszula Dudziak (singer) or some celebrity that posseses some exotic look, they assume they are Jewish and the hate comments are sometimes visible on Interia, WP, Pudelek etc.

So, that's why I act like this, like I'm afraid of something. A lot of mainstream media have been telling that Poland is close to Nazi Germany with such views (those are not my views, as I incredibly hate far-leftists), but yeah, in Poland there are certain bad vibes.

Oh goodness... I wrote a lot about that.

This guy apparently has a lot of complexes due to his exotic look.
Polish required.

youtu.be/fSRXRao6_yc
LostSoul   
6 Feb 2021
Genealogy / Do I look Polish? (my picture) [375]

What I'm still not clear on, is whether you are upset or worried in some way

I'm curious actually about whether I'm mixed or not, I think the First Polish Republic used to be diverse and I'm kinda longing for that.

But I don't know, what other people would think of it.
LostSoul   
21 Feb 2021
Life / I love Poland, but... [59]

It's really hard to say in this country, because of **** politics here. I consider immigration. I sometimes feel like I don't fit here, mentally, culturally and even to some degree lookswise.