Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

The 2nd amendment is not about hunting or sporting. It is designed with the express intent as a final check against government tyranny.


- George Washington

Please indulge us with how the above statement is any less true in 2018, than it was in 1776? Governments did not become altruistic in the 20th century, quite to the contrary they marked a period of intense bloodshed and oppression, and 50% of the worlds 190 countries live under some form of totalitarian government.


Legitimately, I've neither the time nor the inclination to deal with someone who unquestionably has NO IDEA what they are talking about. A 17-year long war now in Afghanistan has ham stringed the most powerful military to ever exist in human history, and they've done it almost exclusively with small arms and homemade bombs. You have a real lack of understanding about how easily overwhelmed local law enforcement and governance becomes when there is a popular uprising, so this strawman is oft repeated and it simply isn't based in reality and what we know about insurgencies versus modern day 21st century armies.

I usually don't get too annoyed with most posts, however I will kindly tell you to pack your bags and your opinion and head your ass back to Australia. You knew what you signed up for, and calling an organization like the NRA "fascist" is nothing more than radical left-wing propaganda designed to silence and muddle a debate surrounding the topic, its sophism, the mark of an intellectual midget.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@Joker

I really like Gun Owners of America as a political advocacy group. They are involved in a lot less drama than the NRA, and don't compromise as much, whereas the NRA sells us out sometimes making compromises with Dems. gunowners.org

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@TheOther

Yes, history is replete with examples of just that. I have immense trust in MY country (you're not American), and I have a healthy dose of skepticism about government and big bureaucracies as a student of history and politics. In fact your attempt at constructing more grotesque strawman arguments is only demonstrating how completely unprepared you are for this conversation and how horrible out of your depth you are. Name one person on either side of the political aisle who is excusing or endorsing school shootings and saying they're a good thing. We pretty much all universally condemn them, the disagreement is on which aspects of policy to focus in order to prevent them. You have a position, its not a morally superior position, its just a position. I am happy to discuss the particulars of each position and the policies being advanced, on their own merits, but not if you engage in sophism and straw man arguments.

Furthermore, do you have anything good to say about America at all? I'm not sure why you chose to move to a country that you seemingly have never made a single positive utterance of in any of your posts to date.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

The same way that guys in man dresses and flip flops have managed to hobble the most powerful military on Earth for the last 17 years with small arms.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@Tacitus

Well, we are really starting to get into some speculative areas, with how exactly a popular uprising would play out, and I know we all hope it doesn't. My opinion is that there would be mass defections if orders akin to the kind you were hinting at would attempt to be implemented. In addition to the large size and population of the states versus the number of people in the military. Anyway, I think we can just agree that we view the potential outcomes differently and therefore the necessity for the citizens to have these weapons.

Fortunately, we both agree on more extensive background and mental health checks for gun ownership. I agree that it is entirely too lax in some states, but those of you commenting should understand that gun laws across the country are not a monolith. In my home state it is a process to get a license for purchasing a weapon, and each handgun must be individually licensed (not the case with long guns). The process is not overly cumbersome, but a minor inconvenience. In fact, the process I went through to get my concealed handgun license when I was 21, was much less intense than the process of obtaining the license to buy firearms in the first place. So, I think we can do a much better job at the point of sale. I am open to hearing about a road map to require say, an interview with a psychologist to sign off on a firearms purchaser card, every time its renewed which is every 5 years. Of course with this sort of compromise with the left, I would like to see a bill which gives reciprocity for concealed handgun permit holders so that they can carry in all 50 states, and do not have to navigate an intense road map of laws every time they cross state lines with their handgun on them.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

My position has always been that Poland is a sovereign country and can enact what laws it likes. It's not up to me to push a particular position as a non-citizen, their system seems to work well for them.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@Atch

Guns are just part of everyday life where I'm at. Yes, you're correct, I shoot them, train with them, build them as a hobby and business. I still don't believe in pushing my own views of firearms ownership into a unique society that does not have the same affinity for them. That's a Polish prerogative.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Careful bro, you start pointing out facts like that and they'll have you rung up on charges of hate speech. Stick to denigrating Christians and their beliefs, it's much less risky and more socially acceptable.

@shockedinpoland

You are a coward. You are not registered to the forum, but are clearly familiar with its members. You leave one sentence snarky quips, while adding literally nothing of value to the conversation.

To the rest of the members that are reading this, can we agree to ignore all posts from ShockedInPoland, please do not respond to him/her/zim/per (don't want to misgender by accident).

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

Yea, how are they going to resist your magnanimous personality and your humble attitude?

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

@Marino_Kat

Errrr..umm.....how old are you? That is the sort of behavior I thought was cool when I was 18-21......

Do these words mean anything to you?
Integrity
Honor
Respect
Dignity

Most people say that those words mean something to them, and if you said the same thing I would tell you that your behavior indicates otherwise. Someone who was first and foremost, a guest in your country, and second a customer of yours who was paying you (probably money that you desperately needed judging from the state of the Greek economy), that you decided to betray. You probably absolved yourself because the woman initiated the contact, and therein is the difference between what a man with integrity does, versus one who is morally bankrupt.

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]

@Marino_Kat

Right, I know you don't see it that way or you wouldn't have done it. The question is, do you think it was an honorable thing to do? Do you believe you have integrity?

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

@Atch

Seems it would make more sense to send 2 or 3, or a family, to individual cities across the country. No need to concentrate them in one location and then no worries about them building mosques.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

I notice Atch that you mention their small numbers, relative to the population of Ireland. This is a very smart policy, one which the rest of the EU member states would be wise to copy. Setting strict numbers on who can enter and how many from where, and where they are placed within the country. One piece of information that those who support these immigration policies never seem keen to answer is when I ask them, what is the number? How many immigrants can country 'X' accommodate per year? We have the same debates in America about what the cap should be, per year. The Democrats are always unwilling to commit to a number. Of course, this is an absolutely essential thing for any country with finite resources, as population increases result on heavier use of infrastructure, hospitals, schools, and emergency services. It's now a proven fact that unfettered low-skilled low-wage immigration is NOT a net positive for a country. So why we would continue pursuing such disastrous policies is beyond me. I can do with being called immoral if it ensures that the American and European way of life continue, and that the social fabric and traditions are maintained.

News / Poland in the European Union. Polexit? [559]

I think that's a brilliant and quite sensible policy and system of disseminating information. There is a plethora of information on legal immigration to the United States, obviously this information is heavily tracked. I think the quotas you stated are reasonable, I'd like to see legal immigration brought down to about 100,000-300,000 persons per year in the United States, versus 1.49 million last year.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

Can we agree on this thread to ignore any and all posts from 'shockedinpoland' since he's not a member of this board, is a coward, and only comes on here to quip snide remarks while never returning to engage in conversation. Blacklist him, when he posts, pretend he doesn't exist. Bye.

News / Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform [246]

@cms neuf

Sure, and since we were on the topic of Ireland I'll say..............fair play to ya

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]


I don't think there's any reason to make a woman deliver an unviable fetus, I'm a bit repulsed by people who use abortion in lieu of birth control, but really don't care about this issue as it's too contentious. However to the quoted text, it would be only fair to improperly label all 55,000 of them as commies, since the previous march of 60,000 patriots celebrating Poland's independence were labeled Nazi's due to only a few hundred skinheads marching alongside 60,000 patriots. Seems only fair.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

@jon357

Yea, look at these two Waffen-SS members.

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Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

@delphiandomine

The way we associate your home country with a record number of acid attacks brought to you by "Asians," who hail from a culture with exactly 0 redeeming or worthwhile qualities. Saw the latest of 7 convicted today for running a multi year child rape gang, and they stated they targeted the children based on them being white. Just figured I'd take this opportunity to both rebut your statement with a few other facts, and remind you of the great harm that the policies you support are causing to innocent children in the UK. Have a good evening.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

Hmm...can we take this in a different direction, maybe you two could knock it off.

As far as feminism goes it's a joke in America. They've allied themselves with actual communists who denigrate capitalism, with the domestic terrorist organizations Antifa and Black Lives Matter. What any of those orgs have to do with feminism is totally beyond me. I think the movement had some purpose years ago, but as far as the 3rd wavers, bunch of extremely fat lards with purple hair who didn't get enough hugs looking for a way to be relevant. And they spout all that 'body acceptance' for literally being obese and unhealthy.

I'm totally fine with women terminating pregnancy due to rape or an unviable fetus, only a sick bastard would make a woman deliver a baby that will die shortly after birth.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

The conflict in Syria has maybe 1 year left on the clock before the legitimate government reasserts control over the majority of the territory save for perhaps the small parts which the terrorist government of Turkey is occupying. The sooner that western nations stop sponsoring proxy forces in the country the sooner the bloodshed will end. It seems to be too difficult for them to save face and admit that the gig is up.

Hopefully when that time comes, the lion share of those who've come into Europe will be repatriated to their country of origin and people who loathe and despise everything that we stand for in the West will be gone and some of the gun crime and rapes can be abbated.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

That's immaterial. It's a fact that the neo Nazi element numbered only a few hundred people from all legitimate reporting, save for CNN. They used that opportunity to slander Poland for not kowtowing to their multicultural wet dream.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

If 300 people carrying a red flag with a hammer and sickle wearing Lenin t-shirts show up at your next favorite left wing event, should I find that troubling and paint the other 60,000 reasonable left leaning folks with a broad brush? The fact 300 idiots showed up to an apolitical event, a national event, says absolutely nothing and you're drawing an inference where absolutely none exists. I think the real crux of your underlying argument is that you despise patriotism and nation-states, and if that is the case, just say so.

News / Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw [780]

We agree on that. When I graduated undergrad in 2010 there was a hint of this, but for the most part college was a place where you learned how to think critically and evaluate arguments in a critical way. That's since been replaced with arguments from emotion which are wildly subjective and not based in reality. Add to that the prevalence of shutting down opposition opinions with bombastic labels and sometimes violence.

To stay on topic. Where can I find the political affiliation and break down of those in attendance?

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Let me help you out Lyzko. Assigning any blame to the Polish nation for the Holocaust is immoral, and downright disgusting after what that country endured. They played no part in the holocaust. The present state of Israel is an apartheid nation, not a democracy, which thumbs its nose at the United Nations despite being a signatory to the convention on human rights. They have become what they most despised.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]

At least they don't behave like barbaric Russian parasites, talking about nuclear weapons openly on TV and showing video graphics of nukes hitting Florida. That isn't how responsible nations behave.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]

@Velund

The only thing regrettable about bombing Belgrade was that it was down far too late to really make a difference with the genocide occurring.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

@Lyzko

Lol, you want to lecture a peaceful country, versus a country who shot 800 protesters and murdered a journalist the other day. Brilliant.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

I watched it. While the facts in the video are accurate, the message gets lost easily when the person delivering it is a Kremlin apologist who believes in multipolarity, and blatantly lied about 'Neo-nazis" in Kyiv being armed by the United States. He is an RT sock puppet, so his credibility is easily impugned. Granted, it's not a story that anyone that wishes to keep a career in journalism would ever undertake.

To the earlier posts, I think there should continue to be a distinction made between the State of Israel, and the Jewish faith/ethnicity.

History / What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies? [945]


Really? How many people have you spoken to from Donbas? Know anyone who has actually fought there? What an absolute joke. I have yet to meet a single person from Donbas who wanted it to be part of Russia, or thinks its better off under the defacto administration of terrorists. In fact, some of the most passionate fighters in Donbas-1, Donbas-2, and the UA 95th paratroopers are FROM Donbas, as the name implies, and are fighting for their land to be returned. It's not all units from Lviv, as the bullshit that is peddled on TASS and Rossiya 24 would suggest.

You animals can't even administrate a territory the size of Rhode Island without you guys resorting to killing each other. Givi, Motorola, and Alexei Mozgovoi all killed by other Russian terrorists, may they all rest in p***, and hopefully suffered immensely before they bled to death.