osiol
7 Sep 2008
osiol
7 Sep 2008
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
I just invented a Polish joke. I might not be the firt to have come up with this one, and I might go back and edit this post and claim that it was nothing to do with me just in case it doesn't go down well.
Why did the Polish chicken cross the road?
To meet his droga friend.
How did the Polish chicken cross the road?
He pole-vaulted.
I just invented a Polish joke. I might not be the firt to have come up with this one, and I might go back and edit this post and claim that it was nothing to do with me just in case it doesn't go down well.
Why did the Polish chicken cross the road?
To meet his droga friend.
How did the Polish chicken cross the road?
He pole-vaulted.
osiol
28 Aug 2008
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]
Kurrr-wa
Just felt like saying that.
Is it that time of night again?
Kuuurwa
I don't make a habit of insulting people, but...
Ty pierdolona świnio
Jesteś jebaną świnią
It's mainly the a in bold I'm wondering about. Is it right?
Yes, I know it's wrong, but is it grammatically correct?
One correction I just made was posting this here rather than in Word Association.
Kurrr-wa
Just felt like saying that.
Is it that time of night again?
Kuuurwa
It's time to change your flat mates. You're swearing to much.
I don't make a habit of insulting people, but...
Kurwa świnia-fncking pig\bastarb
Ty pierdolona świnio
Jesteś jebaną świnią
It's mainly the a in bold I'm wondering about. Is it right?
Yes, I know it's wrong, but is it grammatically correct?
One correction I just made was posting this here rather than in Word Association.
osiol
28 Aug 2008
Feedback / The image of Poland according to PolishForums [90]
No.
You could think about how many people in the world can't have the internet or just can't be bothered with it. Some people even have the internet censored by their lovely cotton-wool governments. Then, you could think about all those people who do use the internet, but use it for facebook, buying music and downloading pûrnography rather than visiting Polish Forums.
After that, we are left with the tiny fraction of the world's population who have visited Polish Forums at least once in their lives. Of these people, I would guess that most already have their preconceived ideas of what Poland is like, either because their Polish and come from Poland, because they once opened an Atlas, they wondered where it was their strangely named great grandmother came from and looked it up, because they live in another nearby country that has some knowledge, understanding or sterotypical view of Poland, blah blah blah...
That's why I said no. Would the short answer have done the trick?
Is PF the place where the foreigners get the real image of Poland?
No.
You could think about how many people in the world can't have the internet or just can't be bothered with it. Some people even have the internet censored by their lovely cotton-wool governments. Then, you could think about all those people who do use the internet, but use it for facebook, buying music and downloading pûrnography rather than visiting Polish Forums.
After that, we are left with the tiny fraction of the world's population who have visited Polish Forums at least once in their lives. Of these people, I would guess that most already have their preconceived ideas of what Poland is like, either because their Polish and come from Poland, because they once opened an Atlas, they wondered where it was their strangely named great grandmother came from and looked it up, because they live in another nearby country that has some knowledge, understanding or sterotypical view of Poland, blah blah blah...
That's why I said no. Would the short answer have done the trick?
osiol
27 Aug 2008
Language / -ski/-ska, -scy/ski, -wicz - Polish surnames help [185]
Welsh "ap" is another equivalent. It has the same root as Gaelic "mac", and can be found in some Welsh and English surnames:
ap Rhys > Price
ap Richard > Pritchard
ap Owen > Bowen
I found a lot of use of patronyms in the word of Dostoevsky and Gogol (Ivan Ivanovich and Ivan Nikiforovich spring to mind). They certainly seemed to have a bit of fun with it.
In Iceland, they still don't use surnames, just patronyms.
Bjork Gudmunsdottir is literally Gudmun's daughter.
Magnus Magnusson - I wonder if Magnus senior's father was yet another Magnus.
I thought that in Polish culture, patronymic surnames are just relics of an era when they were used as patronyms. Just like with English surnames ending in -son.
Welsh "ap" is another equivalent. It has the same root as Gaelic "mac", and can be found in some Welsh and English surnames:
ap Rhys > Price
ap Richard > Pritchard
ap Owen > Bowen
I found a lot of use of patronyms in the word of Dostoevsky and Gogol (Ivan Ivanovich and Ivan Nikiforovich spring to mind). They certainly seemed to have a bit of fun with it.
In Iceland, they still don't use surnames, just patronyms.
Bjork Gudmunsdottir is literally Gudmun's daughter.
Magnus Magnusson - I wonder if Magnus senior's father was yet another Magnus.
I thought that in Polish culture, patronymic surnames are just relics of an era when they were used as patronyms. Just like with English surnames ending in -son.
osiol
16 Aug 2008
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]
A relatively small number of Finno-Ugric speakers dominated the land that we now call Hungary. The origins of the Hungarians lies to a large extent with the same people who formed their neighbouring countries such as Slovakia, Slovenia and so on. The Magyars closest linguistic neighbours are the Ob-Ugrians on the eastern side of the Ural mountains. Quite a long distance away if you consult your Atlas. The two sides of this linguistic group - the Hungarians and the Ob Ugrians seem to have very little in common.
The Ob-Ugrians were pushed north by the Turkic-speakers of the steppes, and into colder lands where they took on the reindeer herding practices of the Samoyed peoples they partially displaced, partially subsumed.
The Magyars took on the ways of their southern neighbours - a much more nomadic lifestyle that involved forming tribal allegiances with other similar groups and occasionally attacking bits of Europe. Those dwellers of the steppes dominated by Magyar speakers who invaded and settled in Europe gave their language to this part of the world without actually settling there in large numbers.
The dominant language of Ireland these days in English, not because the people of Ireland are largely of English descent, but through a history of British domination.
A relatively small number of Finno-Ugric speakers dominated the land that we now call Hungary. The origins of the Hungarians lies to a large extent with the same people who formed their neighbouring countries such as Slovakia, Slovenia and so on. The Magyars closest linguistic neighbours are the Ob-Ugrians on the eastern side of the Ural mountains. Quite a long distance away if you consult your Atlas. The two sides of this linguistic group - the Hungarians and the Ob Ugrians seem to have very little in common.
The Ob-Ugrians were pushed north by the Turkic-speakers of the steppes, and into colder lands where they took on the reindeer herding practices of the Samoyed peoples they partially displaced, partially subsumed.
The Magyars took on the ways of their southern neighbours - a much more nomadic lifestyle that involved forming tribal allegiances with other similar groups and occasionally attacking bits of Europe. Those dwellers of the steppes dominated by Magyar speakers who invaded and settled in Europe gave their language to this part of the world without actually settling there in large numbers.
The dominant language of Ireland these days in English, not because the people of Ireland are largely of English descent, but through a history of British domination.
osiol
9 Aug 2008
Food / OKOCIM PORTER BETTER THAN GUINNESS STOUT? [43]
Stout, such as Guinness, was a British innovation in brewing although it has become a much stronger tradition in Ireland (Guinness, Murphy's, etc.) rather than Britain (Mackeson's...) I don't know much about Polish Porter, although I did try one that was a bit like trying to drink tar. It wasn't Okocim.
Stout, such as Guinness, was a British innovation in brewing although it has become a much stronger tradition in Ireland (Guinness, Murphy's, etc.) rather than Britain (Mackeson's...) I don't know much about Polish Porter, although I did try one that was a bit like trying to drink tar. It wasn't Okocim.
osiol
7 Aug 2008
Work / Are you teaching English in Poland? [120]
Topic not really attached on merging: Are you teaching Scots in Poland?
What kind of accents do your students emerge with?
Topic not really attached on merging: Are you teaching Scots in Poland?
What kind of accents do your students emerge with?
osiol
4 Aug 2008
Language / "Poles" or "Polish people" - which is better to use? [200]
I've never heard anyone say Polonian.
Any Polanders here?
I would have thought you might not like to be a Polak (masculine) and might prefer to be a Polka (feminine).
You did say you're a girl, right?
I've never heard anyone say Polonian.
Any Polanders here?
I'm cool with Pole, Polak, Polish person
I would have thought you might not like to be a Polak (masculine) and might prefer to be a Polka (feminine).
You did say you're a girl, right?
osiol
1 Aug 2008
UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]
Notice how the title has now changed.
The hate bit has lost its relevence (taking the micky out of another thread).
There is a corner of my family tree, and a corner of my heart that contains some serious Taffiness.
I hate that Welsh girl who insisted on drinking games a few years back in a pub in Portsmouth.
Notice how the title has now changed.
The hate bit has lost its relevence (taking the micky out of another thread).
There is a corner of my family tree, and a corner of my heart that contains some serious Taffiness.
I hate that Welsh girl who insisted on drinking games a few years back in a pub in Portsmouth.
osiol
1 Aug 2008
UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]
You can dislike England and the English as much as you like. It won't stop me from liking Wales and Welsh people. How many English people really care about Wales' level of dependence or independence? Although there are so many layers of inconsistency in the constituation of the UK, I believe that a country encompassing all of Britain makes sense. If countries within Britain wish to be independent, I say let them vote on it.
Plenty of us English are at least a little bit Taff!
the reasons why I don't like the english and england
You can dislike England and the English as much as you like. It won't stop me from liking Wales and Welsh people. How many English people really care about Wales' level of dependence or independence? Although there are so many layers of inconsistency in the constituation of the UK, I believe that a country encompassing all of Britain makes sense. If countries within Britain wish to be independent, I say let them vote on it.
Plenty of us English are at least a little bit Taff!
osiol
30 Jul 2008
UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]
Sometimes I forget that people do not pick up ironic nuances on here. My family lived in Wrexham before I was born. I once got drunk with a man from Wrexham who had no kind words to say about it. Maybe believing the words of a drunk man is not the best way to form an opinion.
There are parts of Wales I love and will always think of fondly. There are some very nice Welsh people too. This thread was started in reaction to another similarly titled thread about the English or the Polish - I can't entirely remember.
Important annoucement: This post is irony-free. (Probably)
your replies may well be taken literally or at least seriously
Sometimes I forget that people do not pick up ironic nuances on here. My family lived in Wrexham before I was born. I once got drunk with a man from Wrexham who had no kind words to say about it. Maybe believing the words of a drunk man is not the best way to form an opinion.
There are parts of Wales I love and will always think of fondly. There are some very nice Welsh people too. This thread was started in reaction to another similarly titled thread about the English or the Polish - I can't entirely remember.
Important annoucement: This post is irony-free. (Probably)
osiol
30 Jul 2008
UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]
Kilts and stuff aren't exactly native to parts of Lowland Scotland either. Before the 19th century religious revival, they made whisky in Wales, I believe.
Kilts and stuff aren't exactly native to parts of Lowland Scotland either. Before the 19th century religious revival, they made whisky in Wales, I believe.
osiol
22 Jul 2008
Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]
There are some people in Poland of Tatar ancestry (within whom there may be some Mongolian admixture). They form a small minority in certain places. By and large, the Mongolian presence in the Polish gene pool would be best described as minimal to almost non-existent.
There is, however, a difference between the terms Mongolian (the nationality of ethnic group), Mongolic (a group of languages and the speakers thereof) and Mongoloid (a racial type which is not particularly clearly defined, as none of the racial groups really are, particularly considering how blurred they can be at the edges and how much variety there can be amongst them).
As for the kind of facial features you mentioned, there is something within certain Eastern European facial characteristics that may be shared with dwellers of the other end of the continent. I think it is more noticeable in Russians and Finns than in Poles, and it may be to do with some common heritage of some Northern Asian groups of people with some Eastern European groups, stretching back into prehistory.
There are some people in Poland of Tatar ancestry (within whom there may be some Mongolian admixture). They form a small minority in certain places. By and large, the Mongolian presence in the Polish gene pool would be best described as minimal to almost non-existent.
There is, however, a difference between the terms Mongolian (the nationality of ethnic group), Mongolic (a group of languages and the speakers thereof) and Mongoloid (a racial type which is not particularly clearly defined, as none of the racial groups really are, particularly considering how blurred they can be at the edges and how much variety there can be amongst them).
As for the kind of facial features you mentioned, there is something within certain Eastern European facial characteristics that may be shared with dwellers of the other end of the continent. I think it is more noticeable in Russians and Finns than in Poles, and it may be to do with some common heritage of some Northern Asian groups of people with some Eastern European groups, stretching back into prehistory.
osiol
18 Jul 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Home dentistry, anyone?
Home dentistry, anyone?
osiol
12 Jul 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
I wouldn't prefer to see the bnp troll. But sometimes we need to know, although certainly not as much as noimmigration reminds us, that such views, however sick they may sometimes be, do exist.
Afraid to say it's both. I would prefer to have seen this thread deleted a long time ago. However, his failed arguments and illogical conclusions and his sick so-called sense of humour do not do any credit to his anti-immigration stance.
you'd rather he was here than many many many others.
I wouldn't prefer to see the bnp troll. But sometimes we need to know, although certainly not as much as noimmigration reminds us, that such views, however sick they may sometimes be, do exist.
This aint "free speech".. he's abusive.
Afraid to say it's both. I would prefer to have seen this thread deleted a long time ago. However, his failed arguments and illogical conclusions and his sick so-called sense of humour do not do any credit to his anti-immigration stance.
osiol
11 Jul 2008
Love / My boyfriend is on a Polish dating site [158]
People don't need to explain every detail of their entire lives in a relationship, but the more secrecy, the worse things will be.
People don't need to explain every detail of their entire lives in a relationship, but the more secrecy, the worse things will be.
osiol
8 Jul 2008
Language / I'm gonna learn Polish in a month! [86]
Learn to speak Polish. But how much?
Nic.
That'l do for now.
Learn to speak Polish. But how much?
Nic.
That'l do for now.
osiol
7 Jul 2008
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
One that gets topped up again and again for me without having to get up out of my seat.
One of the very few pubs in town has bottles of Tyskie. Other than the rather fine dark Suffolk Strong, Tyskie seemed to be the best of their selection. It would have been better if they had had Okocim (a beer of which I need more experience). The barman even knew what I was asking for when I pronounced it properly.
One that gets topped up again and again for me without having to get up out of my seat.
One of the very few pubs in town has bottles of Tyskie. Other than the rather fine dark Suffolk Strong, Tyskie seemed to be the best of their selection. It would have been better if they had had Okocim (a beer of which I need more experience). The barman even knew what I was asking for when I pronounced it properly.
osiol
1 Jul 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
So do gays reproduce, or do they turn straight people gay? Or, as I believe, does acceptance of homosexuality allow people to be honest about their sexuality and that there are neither no more no less gay people, in terms of percentage of population, as there have ever been?
The amount of gays that spread greatly affects Poland's birth rate
So do gays reproduce, or do they turn straight people gay? Or, as I believe, does acceptance of homosexuality allow people to be honest about their sexuality and that there are neither no more no less gay people, in terms of percentage of population, as there have ever been?
osiol
24 Jun 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Neither are you.
You arent an economics expert are you.
Neither are you.
osiol
24 Jun 2008
Language / Listening to music and learning Polish [45]
Whilst my flatmate and I were comparing English and Polish wolf-whistles, I decided to play this song to demonstrate something. Not sure what - probably just how old-fashioned my musical taste can be sometimes.
Never heard anything else even half decent by the Steve Miller Band though. Okay, so "Fly Like An Eagle" is alright, but what's that one they still play on the radio sometimes that is one of the most chronically dull songs of all time?
Whilst my flatmate and I were comparing English and Polish wolf-whistles, I decided to play this song to demonstrate something. Not sure what - probably just how old-fashioned my musical taste can be sometimes.
Never heard anything else even half decent by the Steve Miller Band though. Okay, so "Fly Like An Eagle" is alright, but what's that one they still play on the radio sometimes that is one of the most chronically dull songs of all time?
osiol
22 Jun 2008
Language / The Plural of Zloty? [46]
So what about złote and złotych like it says on the coins?
What's that about pierogi?
So what about złote and złotych like it says on the coins?
What's that about pierogi?
osiol
21 Jun 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Welcome to another page of the battle between good and evil.
I'm currently spinning a load of plates on sticks whilst balancing myself precariously on the edge of a large vat of jelly. I can't do with racist, fascist, small-minded, xenophobic, low-life scum side of things quite as well though.
Welcome to another page of the battle between good and evil.
he isn't as much entertaining as before.damn.we need another clown!
I'm currently spinning a load of plates on sticks whilst balancing myself precariously on the edge of a large vat of jelly. I can't do with racist, fascist, small-minded, xenophobic, low-life scum side of things quite as well though.
osiol
20 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
No. The theory goes like this:
Ural-Altaic languages (if such a group does truely exist), includes Finno-Ugric and Samoyedic language (Uralic) and Turkic, Tungusic and Mongolic (Altaic) languages. There is debate as to whether they do form a group in the way that Indo-European languages do.
Then, Hungarian has been influenced at various times by Turkic languages, whereas Finnish hasn't (certainly not by the Ottoman Empire).
So Finns and Hungarians languages have been influenced in the past by the old noble ottoman empire - great for you
No. The theory goes like this:
Ural-Altaic languages (if such a group does truely exist), includes Finno-Ugric and Samoyedic language (Uralic) and Turkic, Tungusic and Mongolic (Altaic) languages. There is debate as to whether they do form a group in the way that Indo-European languages do.
Then, Hungarian has been influenced at various times by Turkic languages, whereas Finnish hasn't (certainly not by the Ottoman Empire).
osiol
19 Jun 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Why do the old ones stay here making this thread look really big and popular. If he must remain on PF, then surely each time his new threads are dumped here, the older posts could all be wiped away.
Then again, some of us have made some good responses on here.
Why do the old ones stay here making this thread look really big and popular. If he must remain on PF, then surely each time his new threads are dumped here, the older posts could all be wiped away.
Then again, some of us have made some good responses on here.
osiol
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
So how similar are Yakuts, Uzbeks, Chuvash and the Turkish bloke in my local kebab shop?
A bit of overlap with Crow's Slavic union there. A bit risky?
So how similar are Yakuts, Uzbeks, Chuvash and the Turkish bloke in my local kebab shop?
We have to think our countries future. Turkic republics are close to us.
I also also add Russia and Iran to this union
I also also add Russia and Iran to this union
A bit of overlap with Crow's Slavic union there. A bit risky?
osiol
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
You neglected to mention that it even rotated slowly throughout the day to follow the path of the sun across the sky.
Turkmenbashy - a true mentalist if ever there was one.
a huge golden statue of him built in the center of capital
You neglected to mention that it even rotated slowly throughout the day to follow the path of the sun across the sky.
Turkmenbashy - a true mentalist if ever there was one.
osiol
19 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
This only makes me wonder what it is in Chuvash. I had read once that they make very nice beer there, but it's a long way to go just for a few bottles, so I'll probably never find out.
Having read a little more to confirm what I had already thought on the subject of the Chuvash people, they are predominantly Russian Orthodox by religion, although older pagan beliefs continue to some extent (there seems to be no Islam in the mix there). They are probably largely descended from Finno-Ugric people like many of their neighbours, as well as from Turkic peoples. The overwhelming majority speak Russian as a second language, or even now as their first language. The Chuvash language itself seems to be the most distant from all the other Turkic languages.
How close to Turkey does this put them? It would be interesting to know how much they do have in common.
This only makes me wonder what it is in Chuvash. I had read once that they make very nice beer there, but it's a long way to go just for a few bottles, so I'll probably never find out.
Having read a little more to confirm what I had already thought on the subject of the Chuvash people, they are predominantly Russian Orthodox by religion, although older pagan beliefs continue to some extent (there seems to be no Islam in the mix there). They are probably largely descended from Finno-Ugric people like many of their neighbours, as well as from Turkic peoples. The overwhelming majority speak Russian as a second language, or even now as their first language. The Chuvash language itself seems to be the most distant from all the other Turkic languages.
How close to Turkey does this put them? It would be interesting to know how much they do have in common.
osiol
18 Jun 2008
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]
I've heard of Bashkhortostan, aka Bashkiria. But Chuvashistan - is this a formally recognised title?
Bashkurdistan, Chuvashistan
I've heard of Bashkhortostan, aka Bashkiria. But Chuvashistan - is this a formally recognised title?