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OKOCIM PORTER BETTER THAN GUINNESS STOUT?


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
8 Aug 2008  #1
Does anyone agree that cold Okocim Porter beats Guinness Stout hands down for refreshing flavour, robustness, body and overall enjoyment, not to mention price?
Dice 15 | 452
8 Aug 2008  #2
It's sort of like comparing apples and oranges.
IMHO there is a huge difference between Polish Porter and British Stout. First of all, Polish Porter (as opposed to British Porter) is a lager (yeast-wise) and British Stout is an ale so therefore it is an entirely different category of beer. Second of all, Porter gets it's darkness from using darker malts, and Stout uses roasted malts .

Third of all, if you are tasting beers such as Stouts and Porters, that means you have an above average sense of taste, so keep on tasting, keep on experimenting, keep on rocking my friend. Good luck to you.
sledz 23 | 2,250
9 Aug 2008  #3
I heard that Okocim and Zywiec are now being brewed by Heineken
I dont know if its true?
Foreigner4 12 | 1,769
9 Aug 2008  #4
Does anyone agree that cold Okocim Porter beats Guinness Stout hands down for refreshing flavour, robustness, body and overall enjoyment, not to mention price?

YES! mmmm, i do enjoy okocim porter, but it's getting harder to find:(
Vincent 9 | 801 Moderator
9 Aug 2008  #5
There is a very big difference in a pint of Guinness sold in Ireland, than one sold in another country there is just no comparison..any other stout or porter is just a poor imitation :)
sledz 23 | 2,250
9 Aug 2008  #6
There is a very big difference in a pint of Guinness sold in Ireland, than one sold in another country there is just no comparison

I totally agree with you on that!
When I was in Ireland the Guinness tasted 10 times better than what they give us here in America.
The same with Heinekin I cant stand it, but when I was in Amsterdam it was delicous?
Vincent 9 | 801 Moderator
9 Aug 2008  #7
When I was in Ireland the Guinness tasted 10 times

yes, the only disadvantages are ...it takes about 5 minutes to pour a pint.. and one is never enough. Worth the wait tho:)
sledz 23 | 2,250
9 Aug 2008  #8
I`ll wait:)
I went to this pub in Waterford and the bartender must of heard my accent or the way I was dressed but he new I was a yank and he tried to give me a Budweiser!

woooo.... I had to stop that train from coming at me

American beers are P*** compared to European beers:)
Decorator 4 | 291
9 Aug 2008  #9
Does anyone agree that cold Okocim Porter beats Guinness Stout hands down for refreshing flavour, robustness, body and overall enjoyment, not to mention price?

Sacrilege!!
Vincent 9 | 801 Moderator
9 Aug 2008  #10
American beers are P*** compared to European beers:)

Beers or lagers on main land Europe are much better than Uk beers too....probably stronger, and don't have the laws that we have in this country...that tells us, what ingredients the brewers , can or cannot, put into their brewing process
Foreigner4 12 | 1,769
9 Aug 2008  #11
there are a ton of great microbrewered beers in the states. that is all.
osiol 55 | 3,922
9 Aug 2008  #12
Stout, such as Guinness, was a British innovation in brewing although it has become a much stronger tradition in Ireland (Guinness, Murphy's, etc.) rather than Britain (Mackeson's...) I don't know much about Polish Porter, although I did try one that was a bit like trying to drink tar. It wasn't Okocim.
Kelob pie 5 | 6
16 Aug 2008  #13
I have tried a Polish porter (Black Boss Porter) last year, will never go back to regular beer. Guiness does nothing for me as it has low %. I have not tried Okocim porter, but I did try Zywiec porter, but to me Black Boss porter is still king, although many disagree with me on that. To me it's like drinking chocolate milk that makes you feel good. Hopefully they will start making it again?
Zgubiony 15 | 1,554
17 Aug 2008  #14
(Black Boss Porter)

Is awesome!! I've mentioned here before, but nobody's ever heard of. Nice to see someone else with a fantastic taste for porter.
richlb06
24 Jan 2010  #15
you have unvailed one of the great secrets of mankind; a beer is a beer only in it's NATIVE COUNTRY. In any other country, its an imposture!
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
24 Jan 2010  #16
Anyone ever try Browar Jabłonowo's Belfast dark beer? Jabłonowo lagers got bad-mouthed on PF, but I personally found Belfast quite acceptable. Dunno how authentic it is, because I'm UK and Irish brews are not my specdiality.
polkamaniac 1 | 482
24 Jan 2010  #17
Between the two beers ,I think the Okocim Porter beats the Stout by just a little !------here is my experience comparing the two. First, the beer was deep chestnut brown, and thick with it, almost as opaque as Guinness Extra Stout. Next, the smell was rich with dark, ripe, pit-fruit: plums, prunes. Finally, when I took a sip, it was like sunrise of a dark star: my mouth filled with malt power and twisting skeins of those rich prune notes, sweet as pastry but not tooth-aching like candy, a mellow pillow of powerful sensation. There was a strong thread of anise through the beer that lasted right through the finish, taking the cloying edge off quite nicely



amt0604ie - | 14
24 Jan 2010  #18
yous are comparing a porter to a stout?

hmm granny smiths are great but nothing compared to pineapples.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
24 Jan 2010  #19
I heard that Okocim and Zywiec are now being brewed by Heineken
I dont know if its true?

Carlsberg now own Okocim. I saw the Carlsberg sign on the brewery myself.
sledz 23 | 2,250
24 Jan 2010  #20
Hey have you heard of Strawski?

Its fairly new around here and tastes similar to Okocim, Im drinking one right now watching football,,,,,,Na zdrowie!!
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
24 Jan 2010  #21
Hey have you heard of Strawski?

Its fairly new around here and tastes similar to Okocim,

I will look out for it, I like to try new beers.

I find that Okocim Tyskie and Zywiec all taste roughly the same, well after a few anyway.
I like Żubr, it has a very distinctive taste, smoky not like the typical beers.
But I have yet to find a bar with Żubr on tap, Okocim Tyskie and Zywiec seemed to have cornered the market, offering publicans great deals to sell only their beer.

Na zdrowie!!
sledz 23 | 2,250
24 Jan 2010  #22
I like Żubr, it has a very distinctive taste, smoky not like the typical beers.

Ive never heard of that one before, maybe its not imported to the US??
Ill look for it next time

Okocim Tyskie and Zywiec seemed to have cornered the market,

Nothing like a cold Zywiec on tap in a frosty glass:)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
24 Jan 2010  #23
Does anyone agree that cold Okocim Porter beats Guinness Stout hands down for refreshing flavour, robustness, body and overall enjoyment, not to mention price?

erm, NO. Though i hate them both in equal measure :D
stevepl 2 | 49
24 Jan 2010  #24
I love guiness!

It's one of the few things I miss from the UK. I know you can get it in Warszawa etc. but I live in a small town and it's not available here on draught.

Thank god the local Tesco's has started stocking the 'draught pour tins' It's a close approximation of the real thing (brewed in Dublin as well).

Comparing a porter to a stout makes no sense. I tried porter due to the lack of guiness but it's really sickly. Then again I'm a lifelong stout fan.

Beer over here is OK but it's just 'so gassy'. The first two or three pints of guiness slip down so smoothly (and quickly if you have the desire). If I tried to drink a litre of zywiec straight down I think I'd explode.
polkamaniac 1 | 482
25 Jan 2010  #25
I guess I can't read---Polonius3 is asking for a suggestion on which is better -Okocim Porter or Guinness Stout. Read the header????



santander 1 | 68
25 Jan 2010  #26
Between the two beers ,I think the Okocim Porter beats the Stout by just a little

Is there still an Okocim brewery in Krakow or did it close down, or was it taken over?
andywaw - | 1
25 Jan 2010  #27
sledz
"I heard that Okocim and Zywiec are now being brewed by Heineken
I dont know if its true?"
Zywiec is part of Heineken nowadays, but Okocim belongs to Carlsberg.
polkamaniac 1 | 482
25 Jan 2010  #28
Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed - Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
25 Jan 2010  #29
Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."

That's the sort of devoted, public spirited and selfless behaviour that makes <insert name of country here> so great.

On topic - Guinness rules OK
polkamaniac 1 | 482
25 Jan 2010  #30
Did you know the easiest way to spot one of those guys in a pub is to look around and find who's drinking a Corona with a slice of lemon in the neck.


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