Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]


Very witty Lyzko - apart from the fact that living in Poland in today's political climate is no laughing matter.

Off-Topic / Random movies (not Polish) proposed by forum users [82]


Yes - that's why you'all don't rate De Niro. Sorry that I was so dumb as not to grasp that you were biased:))

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]

I refer you to my earlier post. The electorate is too dumb to realise that their civil rights are being eroded, but believe the platitudes of their leaders. Like with the impending car insurance as an example, oh, this is yet another problem! So it's one less thing to worry about when the ruling party takes a controversial decision.

"Our government is taking care of business."

Off-Topic / Random movies (not Polish) proposed by forum users [82]

The Departed. 😂

Off-Topic / Random movies (not Polish) proposed by forum users [82]


Really? Amazing. Do you like Tarantino films? They are the films with the artistic licence, and grat violence, which bores me, apart from Jackie Brown of course, his masterpiece (where De Niro should have got an Oscar nom, for playing a weak petty crim).

Scorcese tells it as it was ( minus the fact that Frank in all likelihood didn't kill Hoffa)

Law / Poland's Muzzle Law [22]


No. And the majority of people here don't care about freedom.
As long as they have their monkey and their cigarettes, they are happy. Or so it seems.

Off-Topic / Random movies (not Polish) proposed by forum users [82]


Yes. Yet another Scorcese masterpiece.

Off-Topic / DALMATIA - How much Poles love Dalmatia ? [123]

Your map is incorrect Crow.
Kosovo should have a black line around its' northern border. It's a country, just like Bosnia is, and Croatia too.
Get over it, and grow up.

Life / How are electric cars doing in Poland? [413]


One was parked outside my house last winter.
600,000 zl...took a photo, and it mysteriously disappeared from my phone 😂

Real Estate / Carpetying style? - question to Brits living in Poland [26]

Love carpeting. I remember those in my childhood home and being in a cocoon.I have carpeted stairs, so no chance of slipping. Love a warm home, and wouldn't go for this overdone parquet style if I had the choice. Can't have carpets in downstairs rooms though because of the cat and dog(s) :( So I flagged my sitting room with stone.

Travel / Good quality promotional videos of Poland - post them here, people :) [10]


I watched this last year Milo. A good attempt, even if the presenter is off on a couple of points. It is not a low tax economy. Business ZUS is absolutely crippling - I should know, I've been paying the fukker for 22 years now.

And the birth rate is still falling, as 500plus has palpably failed. The main reason young people are choosing "to stay" is because the UK has now been cut off to them as a destination, but there are lots of positives mentioned here, such as ongoing growth over 25 years of an average 4 percent. The video could have chosen more pristine surroundings than downtown Katowice and working class Krakow though!

Travel / Good quality promotional videos of Poland - post them here, people :) [10]

Merged:

YT programmes about Poland

With reference to YT vids about music, I thought I would start a thread on YT programmes specifically about Poland (You really need YT Premium for this, to avoid the nasty ads...)

Tonight I was watching a fascinating history of the Autosan bus and coachworks in Sanok.
This company dates from the 1880s, when a Sandomierz family bought a steam traction engine to Sanok and started an engineering workshop there producing parts and then rolling stock for trains. In the 1920s they diversified into building mass road transport, and farm machinery. A really interesting history. I didn't know that Polish automotive engineers were so successful - today the company exports buses and coaches to over 30 countries.

And Mods - could you please leave such films up - there is no copyright infringement here - I think Autosan would be very happy with the advertising.

Life / Examples of popular Polish music? [909]

Anyway, why would such forums as Steve Hoffman allow embedded video, if subject to copyright action? Unless there is a licence fee payable?
forums.stevehoffman.tv/forums/music-corner.2/
We are missing the usual Miloslaw Sunday night post of Polish music. All for nothing I suspect.

Life / Examples of popular Polish music? [909]


That doesn't make legal sense in actual fact. Nobody would be linking to such sites if it were indeedactionable. It's embedding, and is only actionable IF the original material posted to YT is not owned by the poster (films, TV shows, and the like)and linking to a site where the material is licenced is 100 percent legal. It's simply Vincent protecting the forum - which is his job so to do, even if he doesn't understand the copyright laws

It will make PF more boring of course - or does, because Polish music is part of the culture, and no action can come through embedding single music videos here - if they broke DMCA rules, they would be taken down from YT anyway.

All completely needless, but like I say, it's Vincent playing it safe.It could be also because he's concerned about Google Adsense action. He shouldn't be, but it is what it is.

Life / Examples of popular Polish music? [909]

The great Krzysztof Cugowski, the Pole with the Irish storytellers' voice.

youtu.be/OqPwjmi9hCg

Life / Examples of popular Polish music? [909]


Hate it. A lot. Not anything to do with music - hence Simon Cowell soiling his pants.


Happy new Year from me too!
Have you watched the Skynyrd concert from Knebworth in the heatwave of '76 on YT? 20 of the 100,000 views are mine:)


That's more like it Milo! very nice:)

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]

So where's the Polish nuclear power station then? Are you referring to the joint project with Lithuania?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yes, but one is a military dictactorship infacto, and the other is limited by constraints of civility. The Gdansk comparison was only meant to show that Polish authorities generally do as Dilbert suggests when it comes to city redevelopment and infrastructure - "Avoid criticism and do nothing"

You would know Torq that there are many people in Gdansk who think that the new tunnel is a waste of public funding - there will always be those who dig their heels in at progress - which is why Poland hasn't built it's nuclear power station yet. Ergo, they could only obtain nuclear weaponry in a dictatorship, because in a democracy, millions of Poles, and me, would object - as would the 27 states - on the premise that it would be a vast waste of resources (as millions of Pakistani children would tell you)

Apologies for the nutjob remark - I wasn't paying attention and I thought for a second you were in the Ironside "I'm alright Jack" camp:)


Thanks Iron. Zarnowiec is officially abandoned. I visited the sight, just up the road from me, and it's despoiled the whole area. The secret to nuclear power is in the word "commissioned" - as in actually producing power. I had a pretty devastating flat hit forehand in my tennis game, but I can't actually use it anymore. It's decommissioned. Pretty useless to brag about it then, wouldn't you say?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


You live in Gdansk right? It took 70 years to regenerate Granary island in the old Town, through lack of money, but you think that Poland has money for nuclear capability. She doesn't even have the finances or will to build ONE lone nuclear power station.

I made a mistake. You are not funny. You just making a bad joke out of a very serious matter and have lost this debate. Which is that if we ever listened to nut jobs like you and Poland left the European union then Russia would set about squeezing the country in every which way.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Which Gdansk standup comedy club do you work in Torq? You're really good. One of my cousins plays Lego Survival, or some such game. Maybe at the same time we could build a Polish nuclear power plant.

Of Lego.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Well, I presume you are one of the hypocritical immigrants, who hates foreign influx of any kind.
What do you see in the mirror?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


The last time I checked, my IQ was 123, but it's been going down steadily ever since. But I don't need to worry to much about the onset of dementia yet, as I wager that no one else here understands the point of your post. Can we assume you didn't make your millions of roubles in corporate finance?

The whole point about enlarging the Union was to widen the consumer base. I am so sorry that Russia was excluded from accessing tarriff free British biscuits or French cheeses, but you do have your "champagne" and caviar to tide you over.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


But...but...exactly. Rich, Dirk, Spike, and Iron, already know that. They just choose to ignore it. The UK is just about to find out how much they are going to miss that access; in the meantime a Polish 47 percent poll ostensibly in favour of leaving the European Union suggests that the electorate should be required to take an IQ test to get the vote.

None of the above 4 posters would be affected much if Poland ever did leave the Union - maybe Spike, if he did indeed live half the time in Poland and the UK. If - not that it's any concern of mine. By the way Spike, Warsaw is not token of small town Poland. The real Poland where the majority of the population live - aka PISland. Which is heavily polluted by domestically generated coal smoke, and not comparable in degree of danger to health to car pollution in London.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Yes, but let me jog your memory. You live in London, so don't have to breathe the polluted air here. Polluted air - in our streets, from people burning coal.

That shortens lives, and actually kills people. Old people. But you have the gall to say "We"?
You hypocrites make me sick to the stomach. Now run along you ignorant fool.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Wot? If you don't see musicality in Wagner then you are not a very avid music listener. A lot of pop hits are lifted directly from his compositions. And it's nonsensical to equate the music with the man.

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


One might blame the legacy of the Thirty Years War for that. The whole of Europe went up in flames, and nationalism was to blame - a strong axis of Western powers eventually put paid to all that 300 years later through the power of coal and steel and the birth of the European Community, and that's how the political chessboard is in economic reality. Poles have always played the game above their real skill level, with a fatalistic false sense of importance; diplomats of the 1600s saw the posturing of other nations, and suggested that political strutting should be repeated in Warsaw, add in the liberum veto, and you had disaster waiting to happen, when one look at the map would have told them that prevarication was not very bright policy.

You would think with all the time wasted in Polish schools on humanist subjects during senior high school, that people would have learnt a thing or two from history, but hopefully all this populism will pass, and as they get richer people will come to realise that Germany and France are their big daddies, and the correct thing to do is to hang onto their coat tails. They can still have the nationalist babble of a proud Polish history, but that doesn't put food on the table, or guarantee Polish independence through the ages.

Law / Unwanted pregnancy in Poland - threats, rights [55]

But they do. If Poland was more in line with other European countries on abortion law, the girl would be more likely to think she has a choice. Instead of likely thinking "Oh well, that's it then" if she didn't plan this on purpose. Lots of people go down the illegal route, but an abortion is a difficult enough decision without being forced to live like that. Far too many holier than thou people obviously think it's a walk in the park and that people willy nilly decide to be selfish. But as you said you are pro-choice I will stop babbling, other than the fact that (other) Poles obviously cannot see anything hypocritical as per modern realities in their support for the churches' teachings

That's their prerogative, but this chap, who is pretty up front and honest, doesn't want to be a father. Maybe he can reach a compromise with the family of some sort and then forget about it. I don't for the life of me understand why he should be hoisted by his own petard.

Especially when the Polish legal system doesn't really give a toss for the rights of the foreign father when he actually WANTS to see his child against the wishes of the mother....

Law / Unwanted pregnancy in Poland - threats, rights [55]


But he was under the impression that she was taking the pill, when in fact he suggests she wasn't. The age old story. Dunno what happens in such a case in other countries, but why oh why does Poland always have to make itself out to be so different? When the estimated abortion statistics show that it is all just rank hypocrisy?

Law / Unwanted pregnancy in Poland - threats, rights [55]

Then she can obviously afford to bring up the baby can't she? Two people make that decision usually.
Abortion was not illegal when I first came here and obviously you are right. I am living in the past - one of the very very few things that were more sensible in the past.

You forgot to mention the furore and embarrassment girls have to suffer for obtaining the morning after pill.
A backward country. Not a rant. An opinion.

Law / Unwanted pregnancy in Poland - threats, rights [55]


I am perfectly well informed thanks. Do you want me to quote the Polish abortion laws?
It was not a rant but an opinion. You might be au fait with this medieval governments' policies on abortion, but millions of women are not. My family two for starters.