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jon357   
23 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

Again, not quite right ... rather for all who are told it is the 'sensible' option, and are too young/naive/inexperienced to understand even what they are doing,

That's pure tosh. Information on every aspect of the procedure is freely available, and women right from puberty to the menopause undergo terminations.
jon357   
23 Apr 2012
Food / Name of this particular Polish sausage [18]

n I remembered that Polish sausage and English sausage aren't exactly the same. Is there a type of sausage I could buy in Poland which would be good for this?

Not exactly, but it works with kielbasa biala better than any other.
jon357   
23 Apr 2012
Food / Name of this particular Polish sausage [18]

. I say, take your pick of many of the delicious types of kielbasa available.

It's traditional British sausage which has a much lower meat content and much more cereal to absorb the fat and give a lighter texture. When using a Polish sausage, the important thing is that it isn't hard or too fatty. It wouldn't work with Krakowska, Jalowcowa or even Wiejska. You could do it with Kaszanka, however it would have to be chilled when it went in the pan and the taste would be very different to the authentic Toad in the Hole. I've found that Biala is the least inauthentic.
jon357   
23 Apr 2012
News / Should Poles care who becomes French President or is it irrelevant? [45]

As the Euro-zone falls apart, it could be useful to have a French President not so heavily personally invested in the whole project.

I see what you're saying, however it's in France's very best interests to preserve the Eurozone. Merkozy may be on the way out, but the new leader will be as close to Germany as he possibly can be.
jon357   
23 Apr 2012
News / Why is PO still in power? [9]

You mean say like a party which was created less than a year ago and now has 42 MP's?

Ruch Palikota? I prefer them to the others, but they need a direction. And the views of their members are so diverse it's a split waiting to happen.
jon357   
23 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

everything is so simple and clear-cut

In a lot of places yes - neutral, dispassionate information is available before the procedure. Nobody advising anyone to have it, nobody trying to persuade them not to.

Mine happens to be based on experience. So please don't be so rude and call it 'tosh'. Frankly it has a better foundation than your posturing.

If only you knew.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Food / Name of this particular Polish sausage [18]

I'll try that then! Thanks for your help everyone!

Try adding some chopped onions (to the very hot roasting tin) a few minutes before pouring in the batter. Yorkshire style, and always goes down well in Poland. It also helps offset the dense texture of the kielbasa! BTW, don't be tempted to use those sausauges they sell in packs for barbecues. I tried that once and they are just too thick.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

Have you had a sex change?

No, however there's a story I don't want to tell...

Re abortion, not all very young women are the same, nor are all slightly older women with careers, nor is every woman who already has a family. Each has their own reason for having the procedure. Nobody has ever compared it to having a tooth out, but for some it is a huge relief.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Travel / Anybody VERY familiar with bars in Warsaw? [22]

I need help trying to identify a bar from a picture

Post it and there's a good chance I'll know it. It's a shame Harry isn't here any more - he'd be the best person to ask.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

Dodgefan07
You do realise that the site you linked to is a highly partial one, advocating circumcision for Islamic reasons.

Darwin's notion that Asians evolved from Oranguatans and Blacks from Gorillas, or any other myth you want

Charles Darwin didn't say anything of the sort, however evolution has been proved beyond all reasonable doubt - and European society has evolved enough not to get involved in silly and pointless practices like circumcision.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Travel / Anybody VERY familiar with bars in Warsaw? [22]

Pruderia is one of several bars very close to each other. If my memory serves one of them (obviously not that one) is women only. They are all some way off the main road in an old military fortification called Fort Mokotow. The address is Racklawicka 99. The others include Club Rock (Bikers Place), Reverbnation, Mroowisko, Balsam and Klub Klinika, however that isn't a full list and places come and go.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

An early candidate for the most idiotic political post of the year.

Really? Check out who votes for Ruch Palikota and where they poll the most.

Polish experts excluded the possibility of any man-made explosions on the plane. They had a full access to the wreckage and examined it with professional equipment.

Exactly. The matter was sad but straightforward, however conspiracy theories get those attention-seeking buffoons Kaczynski and Macierewicz the airtime they crave.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

Witam, Peter and Jon !

That's mot my quote.

Canada, USA, Israel, South Korea and Philippines?

One for religious reasons, one a developing country, the US isn't as advanced or civilised as outsiders assume it to be and in Canada it is by no means universal.

First of all, multiple case studies involving different countries and tens of thousands of men -- gay and straight, uncircumcised and those circumcised as adults and those circumcised before puberty. The ones in all the countries, who were circumcised as children, had significantly lower rates of AIDs and HIV.

Nonsense. There was a study that showed it was (in the short term) 1.3% more effective at preventing HIV infection. No study was done about long term events and there were 3% complications from the procedure. The full study is cited elsewhere in this thread.

One of the main reasons it is not practiced in Poland is due to the long history of anti-semitism perpetuated by Catholics.

Nonsense. It just isn't done in Europe because it is a pointless and destructive mutilation.

The Center for Disease Control confirm this

Some foreign thing - certainly not in Europe.

just one site

An Islamic religious site.

I live in Poland,

Me too. Permanently.

second oldest constitution in the world, and the second oldest University in the world.

No (the fourth constitution) and no, nothing like the second oldest University. Not even the second oldest in Europe.

in their minds, it's still connected with Jews.

NO. It isn't done much in Ireland either, where historically there have only ever been a handful of Jewish people.

Interesting that the only men defending it are those who've had the misfortune to have it done and have nothing to compare it with and no argument except stuff they've seen on the interwebs.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

More Polish people live outside of Poland than inside Poland.

40 million?

Creative thinking was a threat and punished

If anything, they had to be very creative indeed.

In many government and public buildings across Poland.

A lot of that was there before.

There are four or six cashiers at KFC and in other fast food places, and people still get in one communist line. What's up with that.?? If someone takes a risk and gets in that line, then there is a chance Jacek could be served before Agata. That would be capitalist.

Actually that's fairly recent - and a much fairer way.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Travel / What do you know about Torun, Poland? [30]

Truly I loved the town, gothic medieval place with the beauty of nature, the longest river and very beautiful architectures

The old centre is beautiful (watch out for the police there though - they are not beautiful) however a lot of the rest is uninspiring. The river is nice, as is the area across the river near the station.

You'll find a great and very cheap pizza restaurant there - all the locals know it.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

in particular the HPV which can cause all sorts of awful things.

In the UK they're offering vaccination now for teenagers - HPV is nasty, and the vaccination seems to be the best solution.
jon357   
24 Apr 2012
Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

women that grew up in countries where it isn't practiced.

No. Even where it isn't practised, you find the odd one, and even where boys and men are routinely mutilated you find people lucky enough not to have bits cut off them. I speak from experience ;-)

women that have boyfriends/husbands with unsnipped ones that are obviously going to be partial,

Not necessarily. Most of them are probably dreaming of an undamaged one.
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Travel / Anybody VERY familiar with bars in Warsaw? [22]

It's called Klaps in particular, in the pawilony

I know the pawiliony and will be there in a week or so. If you like I'll have a look at Klaps (though doesn't look much like Klaps to me) and confirm if it's there.
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

Families must focus on younger people and keep the government OUT OF FAMILY LIFE!

That presupposes that every family is competent to manage their own affairs.
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

i give this thread just a few more hours till it turns into a Poland vs. USA thing (even though the OP isn't American).

It isn't. The values in the US may (or may not) suit the US, but in Europe we are different.
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

Generally, if the teenager has fallen for a bairn they're doing something wrong anyway. And you mistakenly assume that all or even most families are in a position to do that. Poland isn't the third world, where there is no alternative to the family, however crap the family may be.

"the government"

The government or 'all of us', society as a whole...
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Scars of Communism on Polish culture. [55]

No, darling, it is simply a sign of cultural behaviour in this part in Europe (it also exists in other Eastern countries e.g., Russia) to take off your coat in certain public institutions.

Exactly. The weather and the fact that more people use public transport rather than warm cars have a lot to do with this.

Even if the original post is stupid... I think the topic is interesting, can't we just talk about it? ;)

I agree - however I'd say that the thread title is somewhat loaded - as if everything that came from the PRL was negative and everything in the US which he compares things with is positive.
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

I haven't assumed anything except that the Government is completely incapable of managing family affairs in this country.

Since we all have to pay for it in the end, it's better the state intervene quickly in dysfunctional families rather than let society pick up the pieces later. A stitch in time...

If you never had sex as a teen then you can cast judgement but for most of us, we simply got lucky in that we didn't become parents in our teens.

Hmmm

Are you trying to express the idea that the difference between a 3rd world and 1st world nation is the need for an alternative to personal accountability? If so, that is complete and utter horsesh*t!

The difference, as you well know, is that in developed countries there's no need to put the burden of fixing problems on families.

Personal accountability is the long term solution

And when someone isn't accountable? You'd let them and their kids suffer and compound all their problems in the future? Not how we do it in Europe.

throwing money at the problem is just going to cost more and more every year

Pay a little now or pay a fortune later.

And the people who are employed to take care of the problem will make sure it never goes away so that they always have a job. That is how it is.

Nonsense. You are beginning to sound like a faux-Ayn Rand libertarian. Every man for himself.

You know I once heard a particularly f*ckwitted person (Polish as it happens) saying that paying taxes and providing state support for those who need it was like two people on a desert island, one hard-working and the other lazy, with the hard-working guy having to pay cash to the lazy guy. A particularly sill analogy, but to carry it further - the daughter of the hard-working guy, privately educated, healthy, well-groomed - who's she going to marry?
jon357   
25 Apr 2012
Life / Teenage Pregnancy in Poland [108]

handing over responsibility to some state department.

Or taking responsibility in the form of shared action.

That's the problem! That is THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM! Read this in your outside voice nice and loud: GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND BUREACRATS ARE LESS ACCOUNTABLE IN EVERY SENSE THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

That's just bizarre.

I have given you real world examples of how that is patently false!

You haven't. You've just ranted about 'big government' and suggested that families should deal with problems, without giving a thought to whether or not they are able to or who will sort out the fallout further down the line.

Perhaps there has to be more funding - if a problem is growing......

MANDATING financial responsibility for other people's personal decisions costs the middle class and fails every time.

And the middle class are precisely the people who benefit because they (in the form of the state) keep a lid on the worst of the squalor and deprivation of the poor. Including the fallout from teenage pregnancies.,#

Amazing how angry and aggressive impotent right-wingers get when allowed near the internet. Trying to take a thread off-topic because of some sort of off-centre political view (usually anti-statism) is pretty typical too.