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Why is PO still in power?


WielkiPolak 58 | 1,024
23 Apr 2012 #1
That is the question.

Everywhere you turn someone is complaining about the government. No it is not just a tiny amount of people, it is in many different areas and sectors. Even on the pro PO media programs where you can call in [Superstacja, TVN] the callers there who are not necessarily pro PiS, talk about how terrible PO is [but probably still end up voting for them or just not voting].

It seems SLD and their rather more stoned clones have a chunk of the votes, but really the race continues to be between 2 parties.

How on earth did they win the elections then?

2 possibilities

1/ It was a fix.

or the more likely answer

2/ PO know that they are unable to promote themselves with what they have done, so all they have left is to say 'Yeah this government might be bad but look at what it could be like if you vote for the racist psychopathic conspiracy theorists known as PiS.

Kind of like this

It is a sad state of affairs when you vote for party not because you think they are the best choice and would do well in charge but because you think they are the best looking piece of trash on the scrap heap.
jon357 69 | 18,420
23 Apr 2012 #2
Why is PO still in power?

Because they won the election and have a clear majority.

How on earth did they win the elections then?

People voted for them.

2 possibilities

1/ It was a fix.

No - Poland isn't Belarus or Myanmar, and if one thing can be said about Poland it is that there is huge media scrutiny of political minutiae.

2/ PO know that they are unable to promote themselves with what they have done, so all they have left is to say 'Yeah this government might be bad but look at what it could be like if you vote for the racist psychopathic conspiracy theorists known as PiS.

It's true that there isn't really any opposition capable of forming a government. PiS couldn't without the helpof an openly racist fringe party and couldn't last a whole term of office.

It is a sad state of affairs when you vote for party not because you think they are the best choice and would do well in charge but because you think they are the best looking piece of trash on the scrap heap.

The same the world over.
Sandy 1980 - | 3
23 Apr 2012 #3
It's true that there isn't really any opposition capable of forming a government. PiS couldn't without the help of an openly racist fringe party and couldn't last a whole term of office.

This about sums up the state of affairs politically in Poland. There really aren't any viable opposition parties.There also seems to be a distinct political apathy amongst certain sections of the society (The 2010 election being a somewhat better turnout,'sympathy/shock vote') as there is in the UK. Regrettably this could lead to the establishment of an extreme right wing Government, especially if Poland does eventually sucumb to the global recession or unemployment continues rising.!

that there is huge media scrutiny of political minutiae.

Sometimes at the expense of looking at wider/more important issues?
jon357 69 | 18,420
23 Apr 2012 #4
Sometimes at the expense of looking at wider/more important issues?

Many people say this. EU membership and migration to the UK/Holland etc have averted a possible demographic and financial crisis, and anyone over about 40 or 45 has experienced more political change than anyone needs, hence the appeal of any sort of stability.

Sometimes it feels like Poland is waiting for the next political movement to come along. The Ziobrysci don't count, and Ruch Palikota is just plugging a gap. The issue is that PO won't change as long as they have voters and despite many of the activists being unhappy with th way the party is run, no new political camp has emerged.
smurf 39 | 1,981
23 Apr 2012 #5
Because PiS are even bigger Dckheads.
In Poland you don't vote for the party you agree with, you vote against the party you hate more, thus why old Jarek has lost 6 elections in a row.
Gustav 1 | 50
23 Apr 2012 #6
Sometimes it feels like Poland is waiting for the next political movement to come along

You mean say like a party which was created less than a year ago and now has 42 MP's?

Ruch Palikota is just plugging a gap.

I didn't expect you to have your head in the sand quite so much...Palikot will be part of a ruling coalition next Parliament.

The arrogance of the establishment does his work for him...
jon357 69 | 18,420
23 Apr 2012 #7
You mean say like a party which was created less than a year ago and now has 42 MP's?

Ruch Palikota? I prefer them to the others, but they need a direction. And the views of their members are so diverse it's a split waiting to happen.
Gustav 1 | 50
23 Apr 2012 #8
Ruch Palikota? I prefer them to the others, but they need a direction.

The current strategy is working beautifully, no need to change it.

Pick up the disenchanted, single issue voters, and build it up.

It can be evolved into the 'party for change' closer to the election.

Politics doesn't need to be about principals- your Winston Churchill was right: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Learn how to manipulate and ride public opinion.... that's all its about..
pawian 181 | 17,077
23 Apr 2012 #9
Everywhere you turn someone is complaining about the government.

Yes, I am complaining, too.

But I don`t see any other party worth voting for.

What a paradox, isn`t it? :):):):)


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