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monia   
2 Mar 2014
History / What Hitler really thought about Poles? Hitler's letter to Himmler 1944 [62]

I am not sure if this has been covered already, but Hitler was keen to kill academics in Poland, like the Soviets did. So whats the use of him saying hey are clever if he only intends to kill the people he's talking about?

Is it really so difficult for you to understand that killings of intelligentsia by Hitler had the same background as killings of Katyń and Miednoje by Stalin - most posters understand , why can`t you . It is so obvious .

Funnily , but Hitler had already entered into force that idea by kidnapping of Polish children from their parents in occupied Poland . He wanted to have not only clever but nicer German society thanks to our superior genes to theirs :).
monia   
26 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

"you can keep your dog without a muzzle and leash anywhere you want",

There are restrictions only in the forests . There is an old law from 1991 "about forests " , because of the protection of the wild game dogs cant be left off . But no one will going to bother you if you keep your dog under control. I always go to the Kampinos National Park , and I have never had any problem with the guards . But lets be reasonable , no one can shoot a dog in Poland when the dog is left alone or is lost in the forest , as that woman and few other posters said . The owner can be fined if the situation takes palce in the forest ( only one situation based on art 166 of the Misdemeanor Act ) . Outside the forest you have to check for the signs " keep your dog on leash ". You can however enter the restricted area , but no policemen or civic guard can issue a fine or mandate . Only the administrator can sue you in a civil suit if you did not abide their internal regulations . In the restaurant or in a hotel it is up to the owner . On the guarded beaches , there are signs and informations about fees for breaking the regulations . But there are unguarded beaches where you can stay with your furry friend . My suggestion is always to follow common sense .

Dougpol1 - I am fully aware that there is a lot of thugs who can , being in groups, beat up foreigners or intimidate them for no reason. A lot of people will ignore dangerous situations and will not help even someone`s life is in danger . People are indifferent , not willing to interfere , I don`t condone such conduct and it is appalling. I have to admit, as an advocate, that the blame for this lies with the judiciary system . In Poland, the judges administer too low punishments within the lowest statutory limits .

But gradually I hope that this sick system will start to run normally.

Dogs are not allowed to be taken into the forest for non licensed hunting purposes - aka - they are hunting breeds and trained as such.

Dogs must not be encouraged or permitted to freely hunt aggressively as their breed inclines them to do.

Both the above are obvious to anybody with half a brain-lobe.

You are 100% right . This outdated law should be revised soon.
monia   
26 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

the reason I ask is I am the only person who seems to have black bag in hand these days?

I always clean after my dog . There is law regarding this subject , but not respected , because of too small fines and not too many units fighting against this problem . There should be more sestrictve measures taken . I see it as a big problem in major cities . Poles are known for not abiding rules which I regard as a sign of immature society .

I know the woman was correct saying that a ranger could should your dog if it was off leash in a state forest.

You y don`t know the law either .
Recently the court punished such hunter by 1000 zł fine who shot a dog and levied him the withdrawal of right to keep a weapon.
It is ashame , because those vicuios people think that they can enforce law , the law that don`t exist . This dullard did not know about Law about the protection of animals provisions 11 .1 and 33.4, 33a 3 that states :

the manager of the hunting circuit may take measures to prevent wandering dogs in the circuit by:

1) advising the owner of the dog of the obligation to exercise control over the animal;

2) capture the dog and provide it to the owner, or a shelter for animals; capture the dog and provide the dog to the shelter at the expense of the owner.

Only feral dogs or cats who constitute extraordinary threat left without supervision and care in the hunting circuits at a distance greater than 200 meters from the buildings (if the conditions are cumulative) can be fought! It says clearly fought not killed.

Those cumulative conditions must be met at the same time .
I am very happy that such law has been revised ( the newest revision took place 30.07.2013 ) and a lot of crule peole can be prosecuted now in Poland together with vicious hunters , primitive villagers , farmers , ritual killers etc .

Provisions 10 a of above Law says - It is prohibited to let run dogs without the possibility of controling and without marking the identification of the owner or guardian.

So , in the Polish law there are no restrictions about muzzle and leash , however there are internal regulations in means public transportation , owners of public facilities , parks . But it is unlawful to issue a mandate or fine by anyone ( police or municipal guards ) for not abiding such regulations .

Summing - you can keep your dog without a muzzle and leash anywhere you want , but you have to keep control over him . Even in public places , you can only be aware when there is a sign " No dogs allowed " , you can expect that they could sue you and they could win the case . But in the regulation there should be information about their internal fee for not abiding their regulations . .
monia   
26 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

I'm talking about his threats against the woman.

What are you talking about ? What kind of a threat would a 4 months old puppy create for that woman ? Without a doubt that mentally unstable woman was a way bigger threat for that puppy .
monia   
25 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

Every time someone tells me their dog is their best friend, I think to myself "you should keep that a secret...".
Your dog will protect you, and try to do what you want to the best of its ability because you are its meal ticket.

Haha , yeah dogs always think about a meal just like us people .

Carefuly look at below link that contradicts your immature theory .

joemonster.org/art/2132
monia   
25 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

Your definitely screwed if you believe anything she says. She's with the fairies.

Dear Pweg - begone !

See Dougpol1 , it seems that you and me are great dog lovers. But not everybody is like us , which is sad.
Dogs were always man`s greatest friends . Even if dogs harm people sometimes I strongly believe that it is always human`s fault. If the dog is treated in a proper way , given love and care he would never do anything wrong in any circumstances . As a child , 6 years old , I was bitten by a dog, but I never blamed that dog .I knew that it was the fault of the people who treated him badly . It breaks my heart when I hear in the media about someone who is cruel to animals. I must admit that some people are primitive cruel bs***rds . Look at the case of the lion named Christian . This is an example who lion can become if treated with love and care. There is a movie in the internet about this special love .

This primitive woman`s behavior in the forest has no words to describe .
The dog controlled by his owner has the same right to free running in the woods just like everyone else and everybody should respect that and it is guaranteed by Polish Law contrary to what PWeg says . In the parks there are signs to keep a dog on a leash . But it is not a case in the woods .

I wonder if a child ran up to her and violated her privacy zone ,would she use this gas spray also ? How could she say something like that seeing a tiny puppy, unbelievable .

The worst people in Poland are the rats from the corporations . She was probably this type of a person .
BTW , the campaign against killer drivers is under way in Poland now . One doctor from the ambulance service with 20 years of experience said that the biggest killers on the roads are 30 something women , corporate rats, who in court explain with no emotions that it was the fault of the victim , because he / she dared to cross the road when they were driving .

In my everyday life I see more and more people like that . I thankfully don`t have to deal with them .

So , my point is just ignore such rude people ( it is better not to argue with them , just leave them alone ) , always put a collar ( even with big red scarf around the neck ,to keep a dog visible from a great distance ), have your puppy within your sight You can even keep in your pocket certain provisions of Law with you , just in case . Many people in Poland are legal illiterates , but they have big mouth ,the less they know the biggest cry they stir up :).
monia   
25 Jan 2014
Law / Laws on walking a dog in Polska [64]

The forest is a the source of income and food for a lot of people

Haha it sounds that a lot of people go to the forest instead of the store in searching for food. Hilarious .

Dogs are commonly abandoned in forests, they tie them to trees to starve and freeze to death in winter.

Why such a nasty picture of a host country . You know it is just a lie . Commonly in Poland people love dogs .

Dear Dougpol1 - I never went for a walk with my Golden Retriever on a leash in the forest ( it is rather medium dog ) . She has had always only visible collar with our address and name. Sometimes we met strange people who resented our dog when she greeted them . But I always apologized and never had problems.

None hunter or the more an employee of state forests will not shot the dog , even wandering alone in the woods when someone is with him .

He has a duty to call the special unit under the law of hunting - 29 X. 52, (item . 300/52 and 108 /55) in spite of the fact that there is a certain provision allowing them to do that. - in art. 11 which states: employees of state forests are allowed to kill wandering dogs or cats in the circuit who are not hunting dogs , but only those unsupervised .

The persons mentioned have the right to seize and stop hunting dog , wandering in the circuit hunting , notifying the Presidium of the municipal council , in the area where the dog was captured .

Dog running slow even in the hunting field , but being available within his guide can not be regarded as a wandering dog .
So even if entitled to exercise hunting Law state forest emploee will not be entitled to kill the dog or even stop him.

Dear OP don`t feel scared or intimidated by some answers and feel free to take a walk with your puppy even in a deep forest without a leash .
monia   
23 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

although they may well be a national disgrace.

This is not a thread about how you translate this or that . I used Polish word of "autostrada" , which I translated as highway , see the internet dictionary above . There is no need to argue about such a marginal thing . I can`t understand how much time you spend on arguing with people . I prefer not to use my energy on idle talking . So I was referring in my statement and showed highways in Poland which are superb - one of the bests and most modern in the world . I also want to repeat that it will take some time to build entire system as Poland is a large country .At the same time Poland is working on high speed trains . The airports were buit in major cities so the transportation in Poland expands in different directions .

About the progress , Poland needs to catch up in almost every branch , but in some branches we excel over old Europe . For example we have the most modern banking system eg. we are ahead in usage of proximity cards, also we have already started mass production of graphen as the first country in Europe.

Poland is not agricultural country as one person said . This is hilarious as agricultural products account for only 4 % of Polish GDP . This branch has been changed a lot recently too . The sector which is associated with agriculture is the food processing industry and is huge in Poland .
monia   
23 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

No. A highway is not the same as a motorway,

In Canada "autostrada" is called highway too.The term highway is used interchangeably

King's Highway 401, also known by its official name as the Macdonald-Cartier Freeway (French: Autoroute Macdonald-Cartier) and colloquially as the four-oh-one,[3] is a 400-series highway in the Canadian province of Ontario stretching 817.9 kilometres (508.2 mi) from Windsor to the Quebec border. The segment of Highway 401 passing through Toronto is the busiest highway in North America,[4] and one of the widest and busiest in the world.[5][6]

I am not so optimistic as monia but i have no doubt about Poland's bright future.

. Of course nothing is certain , but there are economists who do research on this subject and they are optimistic about Poland`s GDP rapid increase in years to come .
monia   
22 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

We know what a highway is.

We also know . In Polish it is "autostrada" . Other road than autostrada we call "road".

pl.bab.la/slownik/polski-angielski/autostrada

Don`t call me a liar , you sound so pathetic .

We have few types of roads in Poland
autostrada - highway , droga ekspresowa - expressway , krajowa - state road , droga wojewódzka - interregional road , lokalna - local road , powiatowa - provincial road .

Ustawa z dnia 21 marca 1985 roku o drogach publicznych (Dz. U. z 2007 r. Nr 19, poz. 115 z późn. zm.) w następujący sposób definiuje autostrady i drogi ekspresowe:

translation : The Act issued on 21 march 1985 - about public roads gives following definitions of highways and expressways :
autostrada - droga publiczna o ograniczonej dostępności, przeznaczona wyłącznie do ruchu pojazdów samochodowych, wyposażona przynajmniej w dwie trwale rozdzielone jednokierunkowe jezdnie, posiadająca wielopoziomowe skrzyżowania ze wszystkimi przecinającymi ją drogami transportu lądowego i wodnego. Wyposażona jest w urządzenia obsługi podróżnych, pojazdów i przesyłek, przeznaczone wyłącznie dla użytkowników autostrady.

translation :
highway- a public road with limited availability, only intended for motor vehicles, equipped with two permanently separated by one-way roadways, having a multi-level intersection with all intersecting it by land and waterways. It is equipped with passenger service equipment, vehicles and packages designed exclusively for highway users.

droga ekspresowa- droga publiczna o ograniczonej dostępności, przeznaczona wyłącznie do ruchu pojazdów samochodowych, wyposażona w jedną lub dwie jezdnie, posiadająca wielopoziomowe skrzyżowania z przecinającymi ją innymi drogami transportu lądowego i wodnego, z dopuszczeniem wyjątkowo jednopoziomowych skrzyżowań z drogami publicznymi. Wyposażona jest w urządzenia obsługi podróżnych, pojazdów i przesyłek, przeznaczone wyłącznie dla użytkowników .

translation :
expressway- public road with limited availability, only intended for motor vehicles, equipped with one or two lanes, having a multi-level intersection with other roads intersecting the land and the water, allowing exceptional single-level intersections with public roads. It is equipped with passenger service equipment, vehicles and shipments, intended for road users.

So far, we have sections of autostrada ( highway ) A1, A2, A4 and droga ekspresowa (espressways ) S7 , S8 , S3 I gave you You Tube films of those highways . The road to Lublin s17 is not a highway , the same as to Białystok, Gdańsk

Below it is a very interesting link showing how highway system was built .
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Historia_budowy_autostrad_i_dr%C3%B3g_ekspresowych.gif
monia   
22 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

These roads are not highways . Highways in Poland are not toll free. So , when you enter the toll booth it means you ener the highway . Othervise it is just a regular road or a highway under construction where traffic is allowed . Also some sections of the roads are already constructed as highways but because they are not finished yet according to the plan they can`t be called highways or toll can`t be collected .

No sense to discus with her.

Why , I always present facts which are valuable .

That's why the USA for example uses GDP as its primary measure of total economic activity, right?

The problem with nominal GDP counted in dollars is that it will never remove inequality caused by different purchasing powers of currencies to dollars .

It is partly thanks to these funds that Poland's economy has been a relative star performer in Europe.

The EU Commission claims that cohesion policy is good for new member states among them Poland , but also for the older members .For every euro spent on cohesion policy in Poland, the EU-15 countries received a return of 36 eurocents in the form of additional exports of goods and services. For Germany, the return is 72 eurocents as a result of "additional export contracts", therefore all parties benefit from the policy.

That`s my input for today`s discussion .
monia   
22 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

This means that in the years to come Poland will be the largest beneficiary of the EU cohesion policy funds among all Member States.

You know thar it is not a big deal . Per capita it is nothing , big media cry .

We have lost significant part of our industry thanks to regulations from EU . Now EU can not commpensate what was lost, even 10 times more would not be enough . Roads are getting better , but it is not a great sign in our developement . There are other factors .

Most of you don`t know how Poland looks like . You just repeat cliches heard in your British media , all biased and distorted . I regard your country as a place of badly educated , doped youth and drunk adults , drinking vodka and beer every weekend in excessive amounts , so don`t think that you are superior to Poles and don`t expect us to believe in bollocks you are trying to smuggle in some theory of developed England . You were never developed anyways . During WWII you would die from hunger if it was not American help. Communism degraded Poland very much . But you know what - it mostly downgraded people`s minds and undermined confidence in people`s own strength, but not all of them are like that . There are many people like me , confident and ambitious . This is what Poland is all about these days .
monia   
21 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

Eh? Stop lying here, it is not so.

Who`s lying ? About what .

Maybe the ones in the photos you've carefully chosen. The vast majority are sadly lacking and in many cases dangerous.

I did not choose anything on purpose , cant you admit that you are simply jealous .I can point out dangerous roads in every country .
Whats wrong with you people . The highway system is most modern as it has been built most recently . Where are those bad highways ?
monia   
21 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

Highways in Poland are wonderful ,superb quality and most modern in Europe .







the newest Salomea - Aleje Jerozolimskie multilevel junction.
monia   
21 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

the road network and infrastructure this would give one example of developing.

Haha , do you think it has nothing to do with communism ? Do you think that only roads matter so much ? You are so bigoted that I have no intention to argue with you I just give you facts , but it doeans`t influence your mind . It is simply hilarious .

You simply can`t come to terms with the stagnation in your original countries and want to downgrade achievements of Poland .

How did you contribute to this thread ?

What I have observed so far is that most of you exemplify just usual moaning ,typical for immigrants who can`t become successful in a host country .

But we talked about economy development, not human development.

HDI is the key factor to determine developement these days , read with understanding all definitions I have given you in my post . It is amazing how some of you can`t comprehend simple informations .
monia   
21 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

No, it says about your idealistic view of Poland. The country is still called "Developing Country"

Your comment tells more about the level of your knowledge or the lack of it in this subject .

The term developed country is used to describe countries that have a high level of development according to some criteria. Economic criteria have tended to dominate discussions. One such criterion is income per capita; countries with high gross domestic product (GDP) per capita would thus be described as developed countries. Another economic criterion is industrialization; countries in which the tertiary and quaternary sectors of industry dominate would thus be described as developed. More recently another measure, the Human Development Index (HDI), which combines an economic measure, national income, with other measures, indices for life expectancy and education has become prominent.

I don`t care what your opinion is . What matters is that Poland is regarded as highly developed country by trade institutions .

trademap.org/stDevelopedCountries.aspx

Poland is on the 39-th place in HDI ( the factor taken as a main determinant of developement ).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

We can`t compare with Estonia which is like half of Warsaw , if we compared only Warsaw we would be in the first 20 .

Because of your opinion I regard you as a person with hidden agenda .
monia   
21 Jan 2014
News / Poland's economic future? [294]

Main reasons for Poland avoiding stagnation are:

No those were not the reasons . The real reasons were that Poland has got own reasonable rules

The IMF and World Bank wrote a paper about lending in Poland at the end of 2006 and came up with an additional explanation: Poland's institutions were relatively unfriendly to creditors.

Let the western Europeans banks listen to IMF and World Bank and you will get a disaster . We are very "unfriendly" as always , haha. Secondly we didn`t buy junk real estate bonds from USA . Economy of USA went bankrupt long time ago . The have been printing empty money for a long time . They discovered how to fool other countries and let them buy junk bonds secured with real estate " bubble".

Our banking system is not modern as you call it it is healthy . Let World Bank and IMF fool you further.

It's easier for underdeveloped country to grow, so your comparison with Germany growing 1% has no sense.

Calling Poland underdeveloped country tells a lot about your mentality .
monia   
30 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [150]

Take a stroll down town Copenhagen or Stockholm and then try Warsaw, you'll see what I mean. Have a great day :)

Why were you so preoccupied by watching them , there ?

You haven`t seen them in Poland . Seems so strange . I can see them every day in Warsaw .

You have been at the wrong time in the wrong place , most probably .

The last open`er festival 2013 in Gdynia . There had been so many young attractive Poles there , that you would have suffered from the neck injury by turning your head back and forth , Flag.

youtube.com/watch?v=M3fFLpqy2cE
youtube.com/watch?v=OLzhLE732Vg
youtube.com/watch?v=gbCwEdMxXrk
youtube.com/watch?v=3Tg1qZeW4jM

A random look at random Polish men . Where can you see this ugliness?

You can almost notice no overweight people there or that picnic type with shaved head , so patheticly described as a typical Polish look by some maniacal posters .

There are pictures of a very popular Polish young actor - Maciej Musiał , below . There are a lot of such looking Polish young teenagers around in Poland Anno Domini 2013 .

vipnews.pl/2012/03/15/musial-w-trzeciej-serii-rodzinki-pl-zobacz-najnowsze-zdjecia

BTW -only a gay person would care how other men look like . Straight men wouldn`t even bother to make any kind of observation in this subject .

There are no ugly people there are just sloppy people , this statement referes to men and women accordingly.

Until Poland recaptures her position as a wealthy country , there will always be a false portrayal of a Polish person as dumb , unattractive , sloppy , awkward - so much ingrained in the media run by a certain group of Polonophobes portraying Polish women as sluts and Polish men as giant drunk brutes . This phenomenon will always amaze me.

Shame , shame , shame on you .
monia   
30 Sep 2013
Love / Polish women: what do you think of Polish men? Physically unattractive? [150]

People, people such discussion is pointless. Let me tell you something. I live here in Warsaw and every week I pass by dozens of people and I can tell one thing. That's not a matter of the look .

People everywhere (in EU) look more or less similar . The difference is just the height . Taller in the north and smaller in the south .

What strucks me as a woman is that Poles just look poorly. They can not afford good haircut, fashionable clothes, cool cars.

As you all know everyone, even the least attractive man changes if he is better dressed, visits hairdresser regularly . Because Polish women ussually don`t participate in family expeditures , they can spend whatever they earn on their look, but in this way not too much money is left for a Polish man . That has been a model of Polish society for years . Not too feminist I suppose . Polish men just don`t spend money on themselves , maybe just Polish gays . Thats about it in this subject .
monia   
26 Sep 2013
News / How do Poles feel about the outcome of Germany's elections? [90]

You are such a narrow-minded .

No one claims she is Polish , but she has got Polish roots . That`s it , nothing else .
She has revealed close ties with Poland many times before . She spent her private time in Poland . You know people get very emotional about their roots , but this is something very unfamiliar and strange to you I suppose . She is not very open about it , because she knows that Germans are nationalisic . Once during a meeting with voters in former land belonging to DDR she announced that she had just came back from a trip to Poland and the crowd began to buzz. So she learned from this one ocassion that she should rather not to show off with her Polish ties or roots .

Don't be so silly, Monia.

How did I upset you with these news tonight . What kind of invective will you use against me next time?
monia   
26 Sep 2013
News / How do Poles feel about the outcome of Germany's elections? [90]

PM Donald Tusk tweeted -"A. Merkel asked how you correctly pronounce Kazmierczak," he tweeted at the most recent EU summit in Brussels. "She got it on the second try :)"

Haha ,you are known for Polonophobia here on this forum , so stop this anty-Polish phobia . You are the last one in this pathetic one man show .
monia   
26 Sep 2013
News / How do Poles feel about the outcome of Germany's elections? [90]

Her grandpa's an irrelevance.

Your stance is irrelevant in this matter !

The family tree of German Chancellor Angela Merkel has caused excitement in Poland. Her grandfather Ludwig Kazmierczak was Polish, and fought against the Germans in World War I.

dw.de/the-german-chancellors-polish-roots/a-16698783
monia   
26 Sep 2013
News / How do Poles feel about the outcome of Germany's elections? [90]

Merkel is the most popular foreign politician in Poland. 75% of Poles trust her. It doesn't hurt her image that she's of Polish descent and has distant relatives in Poland.

She is not distant at all , she is a granddaughter of Polish national . His name was Ludwik Kaźmierczak .
monia   
8 Sep 2013
UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

You might be able to bribe someone to get one, but hospitals are generally reluctant to organise them in advance and certainly not on demand.

Your paranoia about myths of bribes is known here as well as your ussual anti- Polish hate propaganda. You have got some issues regarding education , right ?

NFZ covers cesarean section . In some hospitals it amounts to 90 % of all births . I am not surprised it is done under local anesthesia without any pain . On the other hand it brings more risk to the woman or a newborn . My opinion is that such procedure should be limited only to necessary cases .
monia   
8 Sep 2013
UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

It's nothing to do with the quality of the education and everything to do with the rights that the papers give.

Not satisfied with your crap education and that`s why you are so frustrated living among educated Polish people ????

she will not give birth to our baby in ireland because she doesnt trust our hospital system here

Reggie -your wife is right and let her give birth in Poland; she will be here in the care of professionals and will be sure she will not fall as a victim of statistics. The rankings are for fools. I feel safe, in Polish hospitals person is not treated like an object, like a screw in the machinery. In the EU, Canada and the U.S. patients are being manipulated and brainwashed that they should think that they live in paradise. In Poland, the system may not be perfect, but it is honest. Behind the facade of smiles in your countries lies hypocrisy and perfidy, the patient and his health does not mean anything, what matters is - rankings. Your delusion is that everything is perfect , but in fact it is not. As an example, I will give Mount Sinai Hospital , Toronto, Canada on University Avenue . There, I gave birth to my daughter. Labor lasted 10 hours , at all costs they tried to force my body to natural childbirth . After 10 hours of torture , there came a surgeon who said that the fetus is positioned incorrectly , so only caesarean section would safe our lives . Epidural did not prevent my great pain I have been for 10 hours . I was kept under the huge stress , pain and frustration. All this because of recommendations from the ministry to save costs , because the cesarean sections are costly in comparison to natural births . They want also to manipulate the statistics to be ranked higher and tease people and delusioned voters that they live in a safe country with a safe health system , while it is nothing but deceiving potential voters . Therefore I was a victim of this propaganda .

In Poland , fortunately, there is no such pressure , and women can choose the type of birth . Moreover, in Canada, this level of professionalism is so low that the doctor ( surgean or obstetrician is not able to manipulate the fetus to be properly set up and support emerging , where in Poland it is a common practice . In Canada, even the doctor does not have such skills.

Epidural is also not given widely , because it harms more than helps . It was applied to me and since that I1ve had a constant back pain . In Poland, there are no artificially improving the rankings practices , but the appropriate level of treatment is provided .

Why do these rankings take into account factors such as natural childbirth , instead of eg the number of transplants surgeries per capita among those who are in need ? The hospital should ensure cleanliness and sterility , Poland is ahead in that than more developed countries . In these rankings , for example, they take into account the number of cancer cases , which is also unfair. Poland in 1996 was under the influence of radioactive radiation due to the Chernobyl disaster. Doctors at that time said that the incidence of cancer will increase significantly over the next years. So these statistics also lie and obscure the picture , since at the start in Poland there are more people at risk of cancer.

In relation to having children the health system in Ireland is excellent, my personal experience of the Polish health system, in general is that it is a mess.( a total disaster with no communication and its nobodies fault)

Polish health system one of the worst in Europe: report

It is good that you Milky cited this report: healthpowerhouse.com/files/Report-EHCI-2012.pdf

I have read quickly this report and I can only say it is a manipulation of data . There are factors which are irrelevant for the patient , but they are valued by its authors , like having internet site about medicines or booklets from the hospitals about procedures .

In important factors Poland ranks high or in the middle .In some factors there is nothing to do by the system , because for example cancer morbidity among Polish people is high .

Let me show you some examples : in outpatients visits per person per year , Poland is ranked 7-th , yellow color ( diagram from page 11 ). It means that supply of medical services is high In Poland , or in % of streptococcus infections prevention in hospitals Poland is almost 50 % better than Ireland or UK and 3 times better than Italy ( which means, there is a small chance you will contract bacterial infection from a hospital treatment in Poland )- page 63 .

Also this report contains Cesarean sections data, which is irrelevant . It is caused by individual tendency not the system , and moreover Polish women can choose what kind of birth they want .

There is a cesarean section on demand in Polish hospitals.

In outcomes and prevention sections which are the most important there are spheres where Poland is in the middle. We lag behind in cancer, undiagnosed diabetes or kidney transplants or dialysis. These are spheres which Polish system must improve . In these cases you have to pay for it , which I understand , because "Poland is not the richest country in Europe " and these procedures are very costly . There are only 8000 patients per year , who require that treatment, but the cost is 240 000 000 PLN.
monia   
7 Sep 2013
UK, Ireland / wife wants to have baby in poland not ireland [52]

In relation to having children the health system in Ireland is excellent, my personal experience of the Polish health system, in general is that it is a mess.( a total disaster with no communication and its nobodies fault)

Start learning Polish , then .

How did they come up with such ranking ? Italian system is worst than Polish . I have been there( in Italy ) for 3 - months period of time and several times during my ski tours ( I once had a ski injury in Cortina ) and found out how corrupted the system was . Money , hospital treatement , doctor`s internships , and they are ranked 2 - nd . I guess the website was started by Italians.

Poland is like an average European country , there are better hospitals and worse hospitals , better and worse doctors . We are close to Denmark 23-rd , Poland 27-th . Practically no difference . Does anybody refer to Danish system as the one of the worst in the world , according to some trolls Polish is worse than African. Who will believe you, people ?

Your personal experience , even bad will not create an overall good image of Polish system . Norvegians train their students in Polish universities in huge numbers , it is a proof that our education and health facilities fulfill the the most stringent norms.
monia   
2 Sep 2013
Study / Polish schools and Polish educational system level in your eyes [135]

Yeah , students of law at UMCS were grazing sheep during the course of studies and once of a sudden they passed for an attorney legal training scoring high position. You can`t even comprehend what is written in your native language - the ranking of UMCS course of law said about passing an entry exam for an attorney`s training , not the Bar exam . Do you claim that such score has nothing to do with the quality of former training ? Congrats to your logics. The level of your ignorance is embarrassing.
monia   
1 Sep 2013
Study / Polish schools and Polish educational system level in your eyes [135]

I have bad news Landora - In the ranking of higher education institutions in 2013 UMCS faculty of "Law and Administration", conducted by Rzeczpospolita , the department received 6-th place out of 25 classified universities in Poland.

In the ranking of pass rates for an attorney, notary and legal training conducted by the Ministry of Justice, Department of Law and Administration of the UMCS received 5 place classified out of 16 units . In 2010 it was ranked at 2 -nd place .

So , landora , your mindless retort is pointless, as faculty of law of UMCS ranks high .
monia   
1 Sep 2013
Study / Polish schools and Polish educational system level in your eyes [135]

I gave you the source of my former statement already and I repeat - British education system lags behind Polish , in spite of the fact its funded many times more than Polish .

Use just simple logics . In the last women European mathematical contest Polish girls ranked 1-st , British ranked 12-th out of 19 countries , this score tells me that your educational level is lower than Polish . The girls were given the same subjects , so everyone has had the same conditions . Do you need another proof?