UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]


This was actually three years ago now. The landlord couldn't have cared less about anything except collecting the rent each month. He was just grateful to have the three rooms occupied as the 3rd had been empty for a couple of months. Every Friday evening they would bring back their friends to drink beer, watch a movie and chat noisily into the early morning. Not once did they come down and introduce their friends preferring to keep themselves to themselves. I actually don't want people like that in my life.

To small businesses and landlords, the open EU was a Godsend but for the proletariat it was a nightmare.

Harry, apologise immediately for your outrageous remark.

UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]


Pathetic Jason.....were they all related to some divorced guy or who had recently been fired. Think before you type and tell the truth. There is a lot of reference inferring that I am some kind of sad, lonely twisted loner with a grudge. Sorry to disappoint but nothing could be further from the truth. I am a gregarious, outgoing person with a healthy attitude towards making my country a better place for future generations. I do not tolerate economic migrants who come here at the behest of our murderous, swindling politicians and do not offer apologies for that.

My father and his before him done their national service for little old ME. They were proud to be British and believed in this country. A few years ago I detested what was happening and despised the UK until I started to realise that it was the politicians who hijacked my patriotic beliefs. I want my country back!

I want to see streets full of smiling happy people not afraid to trust other people, fearful of all those foreigners who threaten them with racist accusations. Look at all those videos of the 50's, 60's and 70's easily available on 'youtube' . Look how they all looked out for each other and shared their lives talking over their idols and heroes. People they watched growing up and who British people could relate to who went on to form the worlds best football league (before Sky) and the worlds best bands and musicians for example.

Britain must regain her soul!!!

UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]


Like a cheap rate, gutter tabloid reporter pawain you attack without knowing any of the facts.
At the time, I had two steady girlfriends who both slept with me simultaneously every weekend. I had no need to meet other women since I was the centre of attention from a pair of beautiful women. My point was that since they felt no need to introduce anyone else in the house whom they brought back, I felt no need to indulge their foreign habits in my country.

As guests in the UK, they should have tried to understand the way things are done here. This is after all, what I do when I'm overseas.

Deporting Polish immigrants will not cure my ego as you say , but it will create jobs and reduce tension amongst the community.

UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]

Meathead....I have read articles like this if not this very one. Most people when you ask will tell you that they are proud home owners etc. They simply do not understand the difference between feudal and allodial ownership. Yes they have propriety rights and own the bricks and mortar but they do not own the land. This is why they pay a council tax and why they are taken to court for failure to pay. The irony of this is that failure to pay your council tax is not a crime. There is no law stating that. It is merely a financial regulation and the reason that people turn up at court and pay up eventually is because they do not know their rights. e.g. as soon as the magistrates walk into a civil court you are ordered 'All Rise' which you dutifully obey.

By doing so you have stated your intention to succumb to a 'higher authority' and given them permission to deal with your affairs. You have entered into a contract which is legally binding and granted them jurisdiction. Here is a link to part 4 from 10 short seminars. I would advise listening to all 10 and going on to check the freeman /strawman with a secret camera at work in a civil court operating under admiralty and watch how the court comes unstuck.

youtube.com/watch?v=5_n8HUeWROA&feature=related

Jason....the address on the plaque in the picture (of which I've taken a hundred more over the last 2 weeks is of the hedge fund company..Goldman Sachs). This is an example of where the rot started. Takeovers of companies in the black with borrowed money, immediately plunging them into the red, downsizing, increasing hours on the remaining staff which Eastern Europeans did with a smile on their faces undermining the local workforce.

Plastic Pole..I don't normally swallow toothpaste so how would your vindictive actions have any effect. Plus if you tried to poison me that would be attempted murder. Be off with you now back to Facebook you silly boy.

UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]

Too many points to address with clarity Shadow K but you are correct in a number of things you say and way off mark in others.

Unfortunately in the UK now you cannot call the police as a complainant without you yourself being asked your personal details like date of birth. I’ve always pointed out that unless under arrest or being charged, I exercise my right not to give any details but this always winds the police up and they turn on me so no more police where I can carry out my own retribution.

Of course if they were English I would have been equally as annoyed but again I re iterate , I would never dare to act so disrespectfully in certain Muslim or Asian countries where I have travelled extensively. I said to them when they moved in that they are welcome here but I don’t want to hear Polish or Polish TV as this was my house and respect for locals should be paramount. They were fine until they got drunk and then pretended not to understand English. No use arguing with drunk people.

I agree I am the exploitee here and that the exploiters who you say I voted for are the businessmen , politicians and landlords who don't give a dam about what I think.

Don’t fool yourself though, a lot of immigrants are doing jobs in admin that could be done by local people....it’s not all fish factories, bus driving and picking fruit.

Since I never want to put my head above the parapet here in the UK, I will never exploit. I sometimes think I have it hard until I talk to the middle classes who own properties and land and I understand how they are truly exploited with nowhere to run. They are firmly stuck to the ground with banks, insurance companies, councils and parasitical legal men all taking shots at them.

There is nothing much I can do about the giant corporate’s feelings toward the proletariat but at least at my level I can make some dent in my immediate surroundings. You do a survey in the street and ask an 80 year old granny what she thinks of Eastern Europeans? The tolerance in the UK is a myth. British people are too supine nowadays to challenge anything and terrified of the authorities and it is EU immigrants I am talking about....not French, German, Italian etc. I don’t see hordes of them taking over malls and apartments en masse.

I make no apologies for my actions and if more people had the guts to metaphorically 'slice a few more cables', these people would soon be brought into line and remember that old adage...when in Rome etc.

Your only really silly comment was when you accused me of sleeping with my two girlfriends in our wholly amicable arrangement and deeming it kind of immoral. One woman, 2.3 kids and a mortgage may be your idea of ‘morality’ but i prefer not to have my personality distorted by ‘leading and living a quiet life of desperation’.

How dare you!

UK, Ireland / There's not a lot wrong with Poles in the UK. There's just too many of them. [72]

Barney...you are deliberately being obtuse. As Basil Fawlty said to Manuel..'Manuel, let me explain.....POKE in eye!

I will never run a business here, own another house, buy a car, buy insurance, medical benefits, etc. It suits me fine to rent rooms, be an employee keep my savings in this country under £1,000 because as long as i give the impression of borderline poverty no one can hassle me nor would they want to.

Example....I went to court last year after an abhorrent pack of lies was stated against me regarding me assaulting a London Underground ticket inspector. I produced my electronic Oyster card as the legal terms say I must but didn't put it onto his machine for him to check. I just 'produced it on demand' and held it out his reach. At the same time I told him how his mother must be proud of him being a 'London underground ticket inspector' after 12 years of state education.

He wouldn't let me past and shouted for a B.T. policeman to come to his aid (who I didn't know was there) and that was that. Arrested and 8 hours in a cell handing over my DNA and prints.

CCTV showed I never once raised my hands and that his painful shoulder and chest where I had allegedly punched him were fabrications.

4 months later after stressing about it all, I was given a complete discharge after one whole day in court. I had to quit my job to get legal aid so had a good lawyer. So I wasn't fined ...but the coup de gras? i was ordered to pay £150 in court costs. I sent emails off to TFL asking them to pay it based on their employees lies. What do you think they said?

You see how it all works. TFL and the UK judiciary system conspire together to fleece anyone with cash. UK is a mafiosa type racket. Since the £150 wasn't a fine I never paid it and now somewhere it will have been added on to all the thousands that I owe, all the CCJ's against me etc etc.

Moral of the story....if you havn't got it, they can'y get it.

News / Drunken Brit beats up young Polish policewoman [62]


If only a number of ports in the UK in the UK applied the same rules and not allow any Poles in....

Life / Polish history as a school subject in western Europe [24]

I think it only correct and fitting that any Polish children taking advantage of western education whilst their parents collect child benefits, claim job seekers allowance and have their rents paid for should learn some Polish history. In fact, they should have one to one translators paid for by UK (or where ever) tax payers so they can truly grasp how great their Polish nation was/is whilst they reap the benefits of a generous welfare system which was designed for the local labour.

And don't forget to teach the Polish children all about their race rights. If any cheeky local kids start to call them derogatory names make sure that the Polish kids know how to dial 999 to report hate speech.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

So nice of you to share this and dispel the myth that the Polish have no dignity and behave like refugees in Western Europe. I like the part where it says that the Polish always have answers to their problems and try and do whats best for the country's interests.

Perhaps you can tell me why the Polish couple who live above me are on the dole in the UK claiming housing benefits?

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

It's nice to know that the Polish are not the third world refugees that everyone thinks they are. I'm sure they have a plan set in place to ensure a prosperous future. If things go belly up they can always return to the UK and receive welfare benefits from a country that they have never contributed to.

Why can't the Polish be more like the Germans, French, Italians, Spanish etc and conduct their lives with dignity? They are a shameful species.

Australia / Any nice Polish people in Perth? [78]

Hi ..why do you polish people never seem to want to mix with other cultures? You are all so insular. You never seem to be happy unless you are all walking in teams of six or seven in town centres annoying local people. No wonder the rest of the world pretty much detest you all.

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

It's probably more to do with the fact that you are a bit of a novelty in a small Essex town Magdalena. I will wager that there are not many cleaners around with degrees who are willing to work for £3.50 ph so they are pleasant to you while a)you are useful and b) you are on your own.

If however, your countrymen arrived on mass and walked up and down the town centre in teams, started claiming benefits, lived in your flats annoying the neighbours with your Polish satellite TV stations, indulged in crime (like plundering the surrounding lakes of all the local fish) like in a lot of towns the length and breadth of the UK, your neighbours might not be so welcoming.

Please continue to act like a German, French, Italian, Dutch etc experiencing a new life. Start acting like a Pole and you will come a cropper.

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]


I hear this often but I can't understand how it affects you exactly delphian. Please explain if you will?

As I understand it and correct me please if I am wrong.. British pensioners and others able to afford it, take off to Spain and retire in coastal villages and towns. The Spanish indulge them because they do not actually interfere in the demographics or the working lives of other Spaniards. Most working people are actually in the cities far away from retirement villages.


Herein lies the problem. In the beginning you were quite happy to receive £3.50 ph because you were the envy of your compatriots back home who were earning a lot less. Now that you have been here a while your old comparisons fade and you compare yourself now to your present co workers.

This means that you are now competing with British workers who do not care much for your competition and why should they? (I am generalizing and not personalizing here). What have British people done to you for you to come here and trouble working class people so?

UK, Ireland / Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system [323]

rozumiemnic
My take is that a person who legally stay and work and pay taxes in a foreign country for years, should have the same rights as nationals.

This is where it all falls down. You DO NOT have the same rights as nationals even if you have paid taxes for years. Your taxes pay for the privilege of staying and working in the UK and should go towards all the pensioners and people who have built up this country to make it what it is. It is not for foreign douche bags to come here , work for a bit and then get the same handouts as people who have worked here all their lives. I get mad when I hear this.

UK, Ireland / Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system [323]

rozumiemnic
you twunt how do you know where i am from?

I dare not ask. Not sure where the origins of the word 'twunt' spring from ....Is it Swahili? I only hope and prey that you are not another one of those bleedin' heart, tree huggin' dreadlocked liberals with a Phillipino wife to make you feel all masculine and dominant.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

A little lesson for some of the more unfortunate minds on this post....

Conspicuous consumption, or ‘keeping up with the Joneses’ describes the purchase of goods to show status or display wealth. Once more apparent within the nouveau riche or upper-income groups, recent research has indicated how conspicuous consumption is common in emerging economies, where people buy to combat the impression that they are poor.

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

Ironside
Deflecting? Why would anybody even attempt to deflect such product of deranged personality?
Above is just a clear display of dark side of the British or rather English culture. Namely a miserable ****.

At a wild guess here Ironside, you sound like you are writing from a nice comfortable middle class perspective looking on to manicured lawn whilst sipping a nice Port. I can't believe that you share public transport, live in a council tower block with screaming immigrants, confront drug addicts or share a house with a couple of Romanians ATM scamsters.

HH is writing about issues that infiltrate in his life and the only way to release some anger without getting locked up is by venting his frustrations on a forum where no one will get hurt. Are you the director of some big corporate entity perhaps where you don't actually set eyes on the people you kill and manage to keep a nice safe distance away from all the carnage and human debris? Just a guess.

UK, Ireland / Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system [323]

Harry
Er, you left out bit about taxes funding the terminally lazy and stupid who are incapable of getting a job and have no interest in getting one either; in short, people like your good self.

I seem to have had my last post deleted. If you cant take it etc etc...roz etc.

The welfare system was created to keep the proletariat alive long enough to allow them to be thankful for having the opportunity to join armies. Thats why it should only be nationals who should receive this. Those who are a bit brighter could re join the system and keep paying the establishment so either way it is a win, win. Britain was once a colonial power 'arry but I'm guessing that you know this and the sure fire way of remaining a power was to keep us all just above Desolation Row. Listen to Bob Dylan...he will explain it better.

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

Avalon
The British have only got what they voted for.

Absolutely 100% wrong. i don't know where you are from. When Labour got in in 1997 they did so on the back of their reputation for being the party of the working people. What they did was dilute the nation and reduce the bargaining power of the workers by flooding the country with immigrants from Asia, Africa and Poland. It was the biggest betrayal of the electorate ever and multiculturalism along with bottled water are recognized as the two giant hoaxes of the century.

UK, Ireland / Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system [323]

You don't sound political avalon . Perhaps you should refrain from political comments :-)

UK, Ireland / Unemployed Poles in Ireland : a crash course in milking the system [323]

If there is one thing that really hacks me off Milky, its people who have no idea what they are talking about....people who google stuff that they have never heard of and look for an opposing synopsis and pick one out that makes them look that they know what they are talking about. The reason i know that you did that is because aficionados

of Dylan have been debating for decades the meaning to his songs. Desolation row was especially intriguing because so many people derived so many interpretations. There was a university debate over this song once. You have proved yourself a fool Milky. don't ever acknowledge me again or next time I may lay into you.

Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do

Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene

Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that no one is escaping
To desolation row

2.
You just edited your post and put in those lyrics whilst I was talking. You are not very clever are you?

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

Avalon
I have only ever personally ever met one person who voted to join what was then the Common Market, everyone now says they all voted"No". Funny old world.

Out of 'everyone' in the country which would have been about 50 million or so around the time they were voting for the Common Market (or not) you only met one who voted for?

Who's everyone avalon? Your clique within your bowls club which would amount to how many.. 6?

Nobody forces anybody to believe propaganda.

Now if you would care to ask all the media, TV programme makers, property developers, advertisers, football club promoters, insurance companies, mortgage brokers, educators and everyone else who will slit their grandmothers throat for more profit that question ....you would be patted on the head and laughed out the door.

You just get worse.

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

It's that kind of reply that spurs me on Grzegorz. I actually have a Pole living in the top flat of my house and his benefit letters arrive once a month or so. I don't blame him (or you) . Poland must be a hell hole compared to the UK for people to behave so unashamedly without scruples. Oh ,I forgot, you have pride in being Polish. All this welfare money keeping you alive affords you the privilege of being able to say 'I'm proud to be Polish'

I will post his details in time for all of you to write to him (thereby exposing myself I guess). One must do what one can for one's country.

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

p3undone
Oxon,why do you have such animosity toward Poles?

It's a tough question but I'll explain as best as I can. I love travelling and I love visiting different countries and experiencing the different sights, sounds, smells etc. I love people who embrace their ancestral history and value their culture making the best of what has been thrown at them in a capitalist global society ruled by the IMF and the World Bank. They didn't ask for that monetary shit, but they have to adapt or die.

I despise Poles more than the Asians and Africans who whinge about being killed if they are sent back home . At least they have a valid reason for trying to fuck the system. Corporate imperialism has a lot to answer for and Britain, instead of importing all the human debris could instead export all the good ,like education and health care at a far lower cost. That would never do because the uneducated and malnourished population would gain strength and start making demands.

Eastern Europeans however have no such dilemma. They are economic migrants intent solely on making more money than what they were making in Poland. They don't give a shit that they take away people's jobs and reduce the bargaining power of workers. Our politicians are to blame admittedly. They take over flats designed for two people and invite all their friends over for 6 months ending up with 22 people. I was a neighbor to this.

I retreated to Inverness two years ago for a few months only to find teams of Polish marching up and down the town centre and when I spoke to the local politician about it (Danny Alexander) , he said , 'if it wasn't for them all the fish factories would have to close.'

I have absolutely nothing in common with Poles. London 15 years ago always had a smattering of Kiwis, Australians, South Africans etc who came here just to earn a few bucks to travel and to see where their grandparents lived. They came here for fun and to travel. Eastern Europeans come here solely to profit at my expense. They prostitute themselves to the corporate companies . They are not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

Me despise people because of their nationality? So maybe that was a bit strong. What I can say however is that I despise our sub Marxist politicians who let this carnage happen in our society which was already warped by our class system.

As usual, the brainless ones put it all down to a lack of sex or of being dumped by a Pole or whatever. London was once a great city to come back to. So diverse and cosmopolitan ....a couple of Spaniards here an Italian there, a few Arabs sitting over there, a noisy group of French youngsters on a school trip over there etc etc.

Now it's full of people from Eastern Europe and Poland scrounging of the state if they are not scamming the ATM's and emptying people's bank accounts.....yes folks I was a victim. And it's not just London. All over Britain people are being invaded. Don't forget how Gordon Brown was ousted from his position. He called a woman who ran up to him complaining about all the Poles and he called her a bigot with his microphone still on.

We have to get out of the EU. I just cannot believe that people up and leave to experience a new life and end up sitting in rooms on benefits. I lived all over Southern Africa, Singapore and Germany and I would never , ever have had the gall to approach their governments for a hand out.

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

'arry....The whole dynamics of this country has changed drastically over the last thirty years. There are no steel works, shipbuilding, textiles anymore. Britain is a financial and service orientated economy. The majority of people don't want to leave their limited education institutions only to have to lounge about aimlessly from day to day.

I'm actually with you in a way. Please watch that Question time programme from last night and watch how BBC Marxist ideology overrules the panel's ability to answer her question. In case you are wondering why the Jimmy Saville story is such big news...it's because last week 2 Muslims were jailed for 18 and 14 years respectively and the JS story was released at this particular time to cover all this up.

UK, Ireland / First proper "Polish" School in the UK - The Next Stage of Ghettoisation [283]

How much time did you spend on finding this Avalon?

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

Orpheus
Work or dole, they can't win with you, can they?

No, they shouldn't be here working in a country with over three million unemployed or claiming welfare. The only people who benefit from them are unscrupulous small business owners and landlords. We don't need them here....they should not be here. It's really that simple.

UK, Ireland / I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK [35]

Orpheus

Which one is correct?

This was Danny Alexander who said this to my face. Don't you see.? We have millions here who are unemployed yet Alexander said the fish factories would close because if it were not for the Poles no one would work there. Can you not see the hypocrisy and absurdity of this situation?