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I'm currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits in the UK


oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #1
About twenty minutes into the programme which was focusing on the question of benefit cuts to people under twenty five years old, one member of the audience stated ' why should so many young people suffer when her parents and other relations worked hard all their lives for this country. She went on to say that thousands of Eastern Europeans come over here and seemingly have no problem claiming benefits here in the UK'? (I am currently living with a Pole who has been claiming benefits for nine months now.)

Watch how the panel respond. They don't! They actually just ignore the question and skilfully digress leaving the woman without any answer. BBC iplayer will reveal more about this rampant disease called political correctness if you can stomach it.

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Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
12 Oct 2012 #2
Fascinating. I'm sure all PF members are deeply moved.
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #3
It's that kind of reply that spurs me on Grzegorz. I actually have a Pole living in the top flat of my house and his benefit letters arrive once a month or so. I don't blame him (or you) . Poland must be a hell hole compared to the UK for people to behave so unashamedly without scruples. Oh ,I forgot, you have pride in being Polish. All this welfare money keeping you alive affords you the privilege of being able to say 'I'm proud to be Polish'

I will post his details in time for all of you to write to him (thereby exposing myself I guess). One must do what one can for one's country.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
12 Oct 2012 #4
Oxon,why do you have such animosity toward Poles?
4 eigner 2 | 831
12 Oct 2012 #5
no answer, Oxon must be sleeping already :-)
p3undone 8 | 1,135
12 Oct 2012 #6
4eigner,I'm curios as to what his answer will be,If he doesn't like Poles,then why come on PF.
4 eigner 2 | 831
12 Oct 2012 #7
If he doesn't like Poles,then why come on PF

true, this is a Polish forum after all.
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #8
p3undone
Oxon,why do you have such animosity toward Poles?

It's a tough question but I'll explain as best as I can. I love travelling and I love visiting different countries and experiencing the different sights, sounds, smells etc. I love people who embrace their ancestral history and value their culture making the best of what has been thrown at them in a capitalist global society ruled by the IMF and the World Bank. They didn't ask for that monetary shit, but they have to adapt or die.

I despise Poles more than the Asians and Africans who whinge about being killed if they are sent back home . At least they have a valid reason for trying to fuck the system. Corporate imperialism has a lot to answer for and Britain, instead of importing all the human debris could instead export all the good ,like education and health care at a far lower cost. That would never do because the uneducated and malnourished population would gain strength and start making demands.

Eastern Europeans however have no such dilemma. They are economic migrants intent solely on making more money than what they were making in Poland. They don't give a shit that they take away people's jobs and reduce the bargaining power of workers. Our politicians are to blame admittedly. They take over flats designed for two people and invite all their friends over for 6 months ending up with 22 people. I was a neighbor to this.

I retreated to Inverness two years ago for a few months only to find teams of Polish marching up and down the town centre and when I spoke to the local politician about it (Danny Alexander) , he said , 'if it wasn't for them all the fish factories would have to close.'

I have absolutely nothing in common with Poles. London 15 years ago always had a smattering of Kiwis, Australians, South Africans etc who came here just to earn a few bucks to travel and to see where their grandparents lived. They came here for fun and to travel. Eastern Europeans come here solely to profit at my expense. They prostitute themselves to the corporate companies . They are not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
12 Oct 2012 #9
So why do you come on PF if you despise Poles?
4 eigner 2 | 831
12 Oct 2012 #10
I despise Poles more than the Asians and Africans

You're entitled to feel bad about Poles or anyone else (nothing's wrong with that) for that matter but what are you doing on PF knowing it is a Polish forum? Look, I've made all kinds of experiences with Poles when I was in Poland, good and bad (mostly good) but if I hated Poles, I wouldn't be here.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
12 Oct 2012 #11
I will post his details in time for all of you to write to him (thereby exposing myself I guess).

We'll be waiting :)))

I despise Poles more than the Asians and Africans

I think we all despise you more than Asians and Africans too. Ayee !
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
12 Oct 2012 #12
So why do you come on PF if you despise Poles?

Because it's an outlet for his fantasies?

It's pretty obvious he's just another one that was dumped by a Polish girl.
Wroclaw Boy
12 Oct 2012 #13
Oxon,why do you have such animosity toward Poles?

Hes an old skool Brit angry at immigration basically.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
12 Oct 2012 #14
Oxon,why do you have such animosity toward Poles?

You asked me something along those lines but it ened in off topic for some reason, you were saying that Britain was used to immigration,that it had been part of our History since the year dot.

Fair point,that is true,the story of these islands does include invasions for centuries and then a long and proud history of taking in refugees.

Be they French protestants when the catholics were slaughtering them or jews when the Poles and Russians were slaughtering them, right upto bringing in Bosnians and Croats when the Serbs were slaughtering them and now Somaliis when they are slaughtering each other.

They came in their hundreds and sometimes thousands over decades.
Nearly two million Poles came here in less than 2 years,from a country they constantly tell us is far superior to the UK in every way and you wonder why people are p!ssed off at the immigration of so many people from a country where people are NOT getting slaughtered........do us a favour and engage brain for 2 seconds,the answer is obvious :)
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #15
Me despise people because of their nationality? So maybe that was a bit strong. What I can say however is that I despise our sub Marxist politicians who let this carnage happen in our society which was already warped by our class system.

As usual, the brainless ones put it all down to a lack of sex or of being dumped by a Pole or whatever. London was once a great city to come back to. So diverse and cosmopolitan ....a couple of Spaniards here an Italian there, a few Arabs sitting over there, a noisy group of French youngsters on a school trip over there etc etc.

Now it's full of people from Eastern Europe and Poland scrounging of the state if they are not scamming the ATM's and emptying people's bank accounts.....yes folks I was a victim. And it's not just London. All over Britain people are being invaded. Don't forget how Gordon Brown was ousted from his position. He called a woman who ran up to him complaining about all the Poles and he called her a bigot with his microphone still on.

We have to get out of the EU. I just cannot believe that people up and leave to experience a new life and end up sitting in rooms on benefits. I lived all over Southern Africa, Singapore and Germany and I would never , ever have had the gall to approach their governments for a hand out.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
12 Oct 2012 #16
Your familiarity with benefits (as well as being able to post rants like this) suggest that the only one -

end up sitting in rooms on benefits

is you.
Harry
12 Oct 2012 #17
why should so many young people suffer when her parents and other relations worked hard all their lives for this country.

Exactly! Why shouldn't you be able to sit on your arse and collect the dole money which your parents worked so hard to pay in as tax?
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #18
'arry....The whole dynamics of this country has changed drastically over the last thirty years. There are no steel works, shipbuilding, textiles anymore. Britain is a financial and service orientated economy. The majority of people don't want to leave their limited education institutions only to have to lounge about aimlessly from day to day.

I'm actually with you in a way. Please watch that Question time programme from last night and watch how BBC Marxist ideology overrules the panel's ability to answer her question. In case you are wondering why the Jimmy Saville story is such big news...it's because last week 2 Muslims were jailed for 18 and 14 years respectively and the JS story was released at this particular time to cover all this up.
4 eigner 2 | 831
12 Oct 2012 #19
Nearly two million Poles came here in less than 2 years,from a country they constantly tell us is far superior to the UK in every way and you wonder why people are p!ssed off at the immigration of so many people from a country where people are NOT getting slaughtered..

OK, you guys have a reason to be peed off, I agree but still, why come to the Polish forum if one doesn't like Poland and/or Poles, right?
p3undone 8 | 1,135
12 Oct 2012 #20
Isthatu2,he gave the answer that I suspected he would.
Orpheus - | 114
12 Oct 2012 #21
They prostitute themselves to the corporate companies .

Er, isn't that called getting a job?

Eastern Europeans come over here and seemingly have no problem claiming benefits

Work or dole, they can't win with you, can they?
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #22
Orpheus
Work or dole, they can't win with you, can they?

No, they shouldn't be here working in a country with over three million unemployed or claiming welfare. The only people who benefit from them are unscrupulous small business owners and landlords. We don't need them here....they should not be here. It's really that simple.
Orpheus - | 114
12 Oct 2012 #23
We don't need them here

'if it wasn't for them all the fish factories would have to close.'

Which one is correct?

The only people who benefit from them are unscrupulous small business owners and landlords.

You must know that's not true. I know highly qualified Poles who went to the UK to do professional jobs, not scrounge.
What's your solution? Repatriate all Poles, but leave a few picturesque French students and the odd colourful Arab?
It's not that simple.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
12 Oct 2012 #24
BBC iplayer will reveal more about this rampant disease called political correctness if you can stomach it.

Cant view it here. Can you upload it?
OP oxon 4 | 164
12 Oct 2012 #25
Orpheus

Which one is correct?

This was Danny Alexander who said this to my face. Don't you see.? We have millions here who are unemployed yet Alexander said the fish factories would close because if it were not for the Poles no one would work there. Can you not see the hypocrisy and absurdity of this situation?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
12 Oct 2012 #26
Danny Alexander

"Now, many of us in the Labour Party are conservationists and we all love the red squirrel. But there is one ginger rodent which we never want to see again in the Highlands – Danny Alexander."

Harriet Harman
szkotja2007 27 | 1,499
12 Oct 2012 #27
I retreated to Inverness two years ago for a few months

Oxon - surely you can see the irony ?

We don't need them here....they should not be here. It's really that simple

isthatu2 4 | 2,704
13 Oct 2012 #28
OK, you guys have a reason to be peed off, I agree but still, why come to the Polish forum if one doesn't like Poland and/or Poles, right?

Quite agree. I like Poland and quite a few Poles, its the government that let immigration spiral out of control that I get mad at not some Pole coming here for a better wage.
OP oxon 4 | 164
13 Oct 2012 #29
szkotja2007

Oxon - surely you can see the irony ?

No ...I cannot see what the heck you are wittering on about. I left London to escape the mass wave of immigration only to be confronted with the same problem in the far north of Scotland. What irony are you talking about?
szkotja2007 27 | 1,499
14 Oct 2012 #30
I left London to escape the mass wave of immigration

By becoming an immigrant and then bitching about the people in the place you immigrated to.

Ironic eh ?

far north of Scotland.

Caithness ?


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