Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]


Welsh mutations are far, far easier than Polish case endings.


I don't really understand why you wrote this. Either you are extremely intelligent, or you have never really studied Polish in depth, or else you are not familiar with learning languages.

For a native English speaker, who speaks a language without either case endings or gender, and which has comparatively few inflections, Polish is one of the most difficult Indo-European languages to master.

UK, Ireland / What does English sound like to the Poles? [30]


How are you 'aware' that it is not a 'proper' Welsh accent?

And what is a 'proper' Welsh accent as opposed to an 'improper' one?

History / MICROCOSM: Portrait of a Central European City (history of Wrocław) [9]


No, they don't.

Language / Polish verb aspects: to memorize pairs or not? [8]

I don't think you have much choice other than to do so.

Just like in English you have to commit 'go went gone' to memory.

You won't get very far in Polish if you don't do this.

Life / Polish pretense - what's the deal? [72]

Jumping to (stupid) conclusions, are we, Bieganski?

The use of words such as 'boomers' and 'sucks' indicate a speaker of American rather than British English.

And btw, it's really pathetic how easy it is for just about any idiot Westerner to wind-up a Pole such as yourself. If you were sure of yourselves you could easily ignore them. But rather your fragile egos force you to make frenzied attempts to demonstrate that 'we are just as good as you are' which kind of proves the point the troll was making.

UK, Ireland / Benefit cuts for Poles in The UK? [143]


I have.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [586]

I like your idea for this thread, Pawian. I can learn a lot from your posts which are very informative. Thank you.

I have my 'opinions', but I am not Harry.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]


I see. So Britain's not civilised whereas Poland is.

I'm quite sure you'd be frothing at the mouth in exactly the same manner were some Pole to make fun of foreigners ..... not.

Respond intelligently, and Coren looks stupid. Respond as you're doing now, and Coren's got it spot on.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

As a matter of fact, I didn't.

It's obvious Coren hates Poles.

Therefore, the more you rant and rave, the happier he's going to be.

It proves he hit the target.

If he was eavesdropping on this forum, he'd get the biggest kick of all from your responses.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

If you read the article you will see Coren is trying to portray Poles as being primitive and inarticulate.

If you respond with abuse and aggression you are acting in the manner he would like to portray you.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]


That Poles are inarticulate 'buraki'. Are some posters on this thread attempting to prove he 'got it right'?

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]





So Coren's stereotype is basically accurate, then?

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]


I wouldn't care about it, tbh. I think others would see that it told us far more about the person making the remark than myself.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

Tbh, you appear to be exactly the type of Pole Giles Coren was lampooning.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

You are both inarticulate and in denial.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]


You can read it all here:

bieganski-the-blog.blogspot.com/2013/02/giles-coren-today-i-am-ma ke-first.html


That's just this forum, read by the 0.01% of the British public who have an interest in what Poles think. For sure, if some newspaper columnist wanted to poke fun at English people in a Polish newspaper, there is almost no possibility that the British ambassador would write a strongly worded rebuttal.

No-one would see it as being all that important.


I think you (meaning a number of Polish people) do. That's why it bothers you. It's just one man (presumably because of his Jewish ancestry) who has a grudge against Poland. I don't believe 'the Times' are necessarily endorsing his opinion, they are merely allowing Coren freedom of speech.


I've decided not to 'flame'. I simply don't see the point. I'm just writing my own honest opinion, without making any deliberate attempt to offend anyone.

Presumably, accusations of anti-semitism hurt because there is some truth in them. If there was no truth at all in them, then you wouldn't care about it. If someone were to write, for example, that Poles were responsible for exterminating American Indians the accusation would simply be ridiculous, and therefore not worth responding to.

If you wanted me to be entirely honest, I'd say that Poland doesn't yet have the maturity to examine its history with objectivity and maturity.

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

Does it not disturb you that some newspaper columnist in the UK can cause outrage in Poland, whereas the British public has no interest whatsoever in the opinions of the Polish media?

There aren't any Polish columnists of British newspapers to my knowledge. Even if there were, I don't suppose anyone would care that much what they said.

You'll find there is a lot of abuse of the United Kingdom in the World's media. The British media simply shrugs its shoulders. The British people, by and large, don't really care what foreigners think of them.

Giles Coren is just one person. He isn't 'the voice of England'. What he writes is his opinion, rather than some kind of British opinion. His take on Poland and Poles is a Jewish rather than British one.

You'll find there is a lot of criticism of the UK in Israel, which goes unnoticed in Britain.

Tbh the Polish response to Giles Coren shows us a great deal about the Polish psyche. It shows Poles to be insecure, hypersensitive to criticism and easy to poke fun of. If there is no truth whatsoever in Giles Coren's stereotyping, than why should his column cause such howls of anguish in Poland?

News / Amb. W. Sobków's response to G. Coren's "Today I am make first column in Polski" [59]

Are posters setting out to prove Poles to be the world's thinnest-skinned nationality?

Had a Polish newspaper published a similar piece about English people no-one in the U.K. would either know or care.

Genealogy / Looking for a Polish Woman (30-38) in met in Berlin for the New Year with her daughter [5]

If the woman she was with was her daughter, and her daughter was 26 years old, then she would have given birth between the ages of 4 and 12.

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]

I know Harry from other forums, and think he's a bit of an idiot.

Unfortunately, forums such as these attract idiots.

I'd rather listen, discuss and learn, than get involved in pointless nationality bashing flaming wars.

It's quite obvious that the sole purpose of the OP is to inflame, so why not critise those trying to create disharmony here and now, rather than a banned former poster?

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Thanks for informing me. Such 'wars' are imbecilic, and I'd prefer not to take part in them.

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]

Tbh, Jon, I think it best to ignore threads such as these. It's Bieganski, and people who think like him, who have issues, rather than a majority of 'Brits'. If Bieganski is unable to see this for himself. we are under no obligation to help him by wrenching his red and white tinted glasses from off his eyes.

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


I've also heard Poles commenting much the same thing. Of course, a certain percentage of the British population does not accept multiculturalism. The kind of people who vote BNP, for example.

However, the younger and more educated someone is, the more likely they are to accept multiculturalism.

Quite probably, the man you spoke to wasn't a particularly good observer. This observation is often made to excuse the prejudices of Poles in the UK by Poles in the UK.

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]


Why do you seem so determined to start an argument?

UK, Ireland / Polonization of Britain - Tipping Point Confirmed in 2011 Census [97]

Very well said, jon. I'm very proud of our multicultural island.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]


You're changing your point now. I never argued that it is not possible to 'spot a foreigner', only that there are no obvious physical or odour differences between Poles and other Northern Europeans.

Anyone claiming to be able to spot a Pole by their smell is talking out of their behinds.


So you claim to be able to work out someone's diet by how they smell. I don't believe you.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]


It's idiotic. However, if you want to believe closely related nationalities smell and walk differently, then it's up to you.

When you asked me about how I know that Poles and Germans have mixed ancestry, I have already mentioned the surnames. If you don't happen to know much about history and ethnicity in Central Europe, then I don't propose giving you a crash course.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]


I lived in Greece for some years, and was always taken for being Greek by the locals. Usually, they will start talking English to anyone who looks like a tourist, and for them tourists are very easy to spot. As far as I'm aware, I have no Greek ancestry whatsoever.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]


When people start saying that 'the other lot' have 'pointy heads', eyes too close together, or smell 'funny', then all this tells us is that the person making the remark is prejudiced.

Of course, different people have different appearance. Obviously, we can tell with 100% accuracy if someone is black or white. We would probably know with 90% accuracy whether someone was of Greek or Scandinavian descent.

Telling apart different Northern Europeans is pretty near impossible if you base it on physical appearance alone. For example, most Germans have Slavic ancestors, and many Poles have German ancestors. Any study of surnames will tell you this.

The idea that there is an English, Polish and German 'look' that applies to most members of each nationality is pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.

Now, when it comes to fashion, make-up, and so on, we have a better chance of distinguishing between different Northern European nationalities. Of course, our fashion sense is influenced by our culture, and to some extent every country's culture is unique.

However, go to any Polish city, and you'll see lots of Poles wearing England football team related merchandise.

Personally, I'm extremely interested in the 'which nationality is he/she game'. However, I often get it wrong, and I simply disbelieve anyone who claims to 'know' what nationality anyone is simply by the way they walk or smell.

Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]


Nah, just awestruck!

You should appear on 'Britain's got talent', or Poland's 'Mam Talent'. You could be blindfolded and led out to sniff the audience. "My remarkable sense of smell leads me to believe that Magda is from Gdańsk, and only ever eats beetroot soup. And Stanley is from Accrington and lives on a diet of meat pies and pints of bitter."