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KingAthelstan   
24 Sep 2011
News / Has there been an influx of Polish people into Germany? [21]

it would be good if some Poles in the UK went to Deutschland. why do I see so many Middle aged and older Poles who just sit on the benches in the town centre in the middle of the day drinking vodka. it used to be just Young Poles in their early 20s who came to work here,but now they seem to have brought over their entire families
KingAthelstan   
24 Sep 2011
News / Has there been an influx of Polish people into Germany? [21]

I was wondering if Poles have starting moving to Germany since they lifted immigration restrictions this year?

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/8485408/Germany-braces-itself-for-invasion-of-Polish-workers-as-it-follows-EU-immigration-rules.html
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

England people they not ethnic group,savvy?

They are as much an ethnic group as Poles or Croats or Dutch.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people

'wikipedia: The English (from Old English: Englisc) are a nation and ethnic group native to England, who speak English.'

ps........

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#Ethnicity go tell the Canadian government that English is not an ethnic group.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Canadian
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_American
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Chilean
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Australian

they are regarded as an ethnic group in the census of Canada, USA, Australia, and Chile to name a few.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

The native English are essentially the Anglo Saxons

read the whole paragagh :'(Anglo Saxons) + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic people not just anghlo saxons. what I said is the peoples of the Kingdom of England had coalesed by the time of the Norman invasion into an regocnaiblly English not merely Anglo Saxon identity.

Noone in Tudor times called themslves called thelsves Ango-saxon, they were English of English culture of English identity. It wasn't until 19th centaury romanticism that some scholars beagn to take in interst in the anglo saxon elemnt.

In Russia you can be an ethnic Tatar and still be civicly and culturally assimilated into Russian culture but will not be an ethnic Russian.

In Poland you can be civicly Polish and still ethnically Belorussian.

In germany You can be civcly Turkish but will never be ethnically German.

I'm guessing you are an assimilated 2nd generation Pole.

I am English of English Ethnicity.

Some of us
are even black, others are Jewish; others too have Polish ancestry. But all are part of the nation.

they are not native, they are assimilated into english identity culture, civicly English, the English have a right to be an ethnic group as do any other.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

Who lived where and how people identified themselves 1500 years ago has precious little to do with anything today.

The native English are essentially the Anglo Saxons + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic peoples who were simply assimilated by the Celts. By 1066 an English identity was already there.The Normans did NOT regard themselves as ethnic English and took them about 300-350 years to embrace English identity, by witch time the Viking decendents of Yorkshire, the celts of Cumbria and Devon had all coallced into a responsibly English ethnicty as opposed to Anglo saxon.

Does it? Give some examples. Every English person I know is proud of who they are and their heritage.

London for instance has completely lost it's native cockney English identity, in England, the 'multiculturalism' we have been fore fed is apparently the only thing we are aloud to be proud of, according Red Ken Livingstone. It is racist to fly a St Georges cross, it is racist to have a parade for st georges day, yet a festival for Ramadan is not only encouraged but funded by the tax payer. I thank god Am not from London, but my grandfather is and it brought a tear to his eye to sea what it has become after visiting, it is not just London but other major cities like Birmingham and Bradford. We bend over backwards to accommodate the needs and whims of people from India,Pakistan,Africa ( put up council signs in their lanaguge,, fund their festivals, even have ethnic minotiy employemnt quotas, they are scared to offend Muslims and bend over backwards to please their every demand even install third world type toilets for them. Yet native english culture is deemed racist.

Here English people get discriminated against for not being 'ethnic' enough.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473249/English-girl-barred-Government-job--wrong-kind-white.html

The welsh have Welsh cultural prohects funded by the tax payer, you see flags flying everywhere in wales, no so in England.

The English are an ethnic group like the Kurds and the Appache Indians and the Serbs and the Poles or any other.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

Especially as some will predictably say that there's "no such thing as indigenous English/British/White Europeans" etc (implying that only non-whites can be "indigenous peoples")

It is really cool and progressive to help encourage and fund native cultures even here in Britain such as the Welsh or Cornish, yet being proud of native English culture makes you a racist.

And no the whole England was always a nation of immigrants crap is a modern left wing piece of historical revisionism. The same can be said for example of Poland in that it was originally inhabited by Germanic,Celtic and Baltic peoples and the Slavs only came in the Dark ages and absorbed their predecessors, afterwards in turn being conquered themselves briefly by the Mongols, influxes of Tatars all of which would by the late middle ages have coalesced or been assimilated into a Polish ethnicity But no one will deny a Pole his right to be an ethnic Pole.

The native English are essentially the Anglo Saxons + Allot of Anglized Celts + Anglised , assimilated Danish and Norwegian Vikings + Pre celtic peoples who were simply assimilated by the Celts. By 1066 an English identity was already there. I am not an Anglo- Saxon as my mother is from West Devon and is probably an Anglicised Celt as are meant other people. The Normans did NOT regard themselves as ethnic English and took them about 300-350 years to embrace English identity, but also had a very limited genetic impact as they were no more than a small ruling elite.

I respect the right of to be of the Cornish to be called ethnic Cornish, and yet I chided for being proud of being English.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

Me, I have nothing against Jews per se, just am disgusted with Israel, for many reasons.

I couldn't care less about Israel, the western media are obsessed with them. There are far worse conflicts in the world Yemen, Congo, Darfur, Somalia, Sri lanka, Kurdistan that nobody seems to give two hoots about. The Turks (who are members of Nato) are bombing the cr*p out of the Kurds and the world turns a blind eye and they have the audacity to criticize the Israelis.

What Russia does In Chechnia or Dagestan is just as bad yet gets a fraction of the coverage.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

@gumishu

The English are an ethnic group

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Canadian

The Dutch for instance have no problem saying ethnic Dutch ( who have a similar similar demographic in terms of modern immigrant communities to us), why is it so politicly incorrect to say ethnic English? I am not merely white , I am ethnic English, simple as.

Dutch census: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Netherlands#Recent_developments

causes.com/causes/189620-english-ethnicity-must-be-includched-as-an-option-on-the-2012-uk-census
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

Anyhow, here are your beloved Jews: Perhaps they learned this behavior from the 'nazi' Poles who so persecuted them...

I am not a Jew, I don't know what you have against them? I'm an English lad who was brought up Church of England .

And if you look at the Polish pre war census you will see they are defined as an ethnicity, same applies to the Soviet Union/Russia where they are still counted as an ethnic group.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pasternak
look at Pasternak's ethnicity in the right hand corner.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

being non-white can have its consequences in Poland

No you don't get me, I am English.Yes that means I'm white, but I don't like the term White English, It's an absurd term, I was making a point that no one in Poland is called white Polish, if an Pakistani man was born in Poland, he would still be an Pakistani. Yet in England I am reduced to being referred to by the government and lefty media as 'white working class' No I'm English not White I just happen to be White. I think you will find that the English are not yellow or purple, we are the same colour as you Poles.
KingAthelstan   
22 Sep 2011
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]

other than white English,

I'm of English ethnicity, not WHITE English, that's a ridiculous term concocted by the government. I'm just English not White that is an American concept of race. In Poland you have ethnic Poles and ethnic Belorussians,you used to have ethnic Jews, no such thing as White Polish.
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

Merged: This is Warsaw in 50 years time....

You should try multiculturalism...its fun :)

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8gZ8JKw1rw

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qoMeUcC_M20
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

The goal by extremists zionists

I don't blame Jews, that's just absurd, Poland lived in harmony with 3 million Jews for 1000 years. The Jews here either mind either own business or integrate and do not try and bomb us or impose their way on us. (and by en large vote conservative). I blame it partly on the left wing upper middle class londoncentric people like clinate that was created under tony blair, the guardian, Ken livingstone. It has to be said problems began back in the late 50s with mas immigration from the fmr Empire and was not invented entriely by tony blair, he merely cemented the DOCTRINE of multiculturalism and took a great big dump on English culture )

And partly the result of belated white man's guilt in somehow thinking that if we house half the bleeding former Empire, it will karmicly absolve us of the misdemeanour's of our great-great-great grandfathers escapades in Africa and India and somehow make us cooler funkier people.

And partly the result of the Americanisation of British identity, in classing people as 'white', instead of ethnic English for instance.
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

Why is it ok for a Pole to be rightfully proud of their ancient Polish Slavic culture, yet here in England I am force fed this PC New labour created notion of Multiculturalism that decries me as a racist for being proud of English culture. And yes it is English culture not British for in Scotland or Wales, it is perfectly acceptable to be patriotic and nationalistic there(SNP Plaid cymru).

No! There is still an English culture that exists ( despite what the guardian may say) in The West country, Northumberland and Cumbria for instance but has virtually vanished from England's major cities such as London or Birmingham or Bradford which have become foreign segregated ghettos.

And by the way, France has about 8 million Muslims and 2 million other non-European immigrants, we in the UK have only about 5-6 million third world immigrants of an alien culture that refuse to integrate, yet France does not espouse a doctrine if multiculturalism and has managed to retain and is proud of French culture, yet in England we have been reduced to Multiculturalism as 'the culture of England'.
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

You're in Eastern Europe, yes the central part of Eastern Europe, but not Central Europe. Everybody in the UK, Germany Norway, and Western Europe sees you as Eastern Europe, including the media here in England.

Eastern Europe...end of discussion.
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Lols....how many Irish clubs in England???

People of Irish origin:John lennon, Steven Gerrard, Wayne rooney, PAul Mccarthy, George OSborne. half of liverpool is Irish, they didnt deand gaelic signs on every street when they came in the 19th centuary

LMFAO, you have got to be having a bubble matey.....see that thing you are sat on? You aint meant to talk out of it.....

Some integrated Jews:Alan Sugar Amy Winehouse, sacha baron cohen, Nigella Lawson, Vanessa Feltz, David Miliband, Roni Anconna, Jason Isaacs Daniel Radcliffe.

And,just in closing, London has never been an "English City", it has always been a place dominated by immigrants,any 6th form history student could tell you that.

No, there was a cockney culture that had existed in some form for hundreds of years, and yes immigrants like the east end Jews ( there are many cockney words of yiddish origin) the Irish, the Huguenots all mostly integrated.

that culture has now become destroyed in the last 50 years.

England:
youtube.com/watch?v=vzeBDcmrjjY

Not England

youtube.com/watch?v=g8gZ8JKw1rw

youtube.com/watch?v=qoMeUcC_M20
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

You are confusing multiculturalism with democracy. France for example has just as many ( if not more immigrants from the 3rd world, yet they to not preach the doctrine of multiculturalism and yet still manage to retain and be proud of a distinctly French culture.

perhaps you would like to take 5 million 3rd world immigrants and see how they sh*t on Polish culture, then we will see who's the smug ass?

You have an Eastern European country that has still retained and is rightfully proud of it's native culture. Multi-Culture is just an multitude of foreign cultures super-imposed on the native one. There is nothing unique about it. you can find it In Amsterdam in Toronto, in New York, this is England, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Multiculturalism is a step in the right direction

No I am fundamentally against the doctrine of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism in England, there was an English culture and identity long before the mass immigration of the 50s and 60s, long before New Labour shoved the Doctrine Multiculturalism down our throats.

Guy fawkes night, Morris dancing, Cheese Rolling, Running of Burning tar in Northumberland, Drinking Cider, Northumberland pipes, The Wurzels, John Lilburne, Thomas Hardy, Hallowe'en, John Locke, Isaac newton, this is England

The native cockney culture in London has become completely and utterly destroyed and it brings a tear to my eye, I am not against all immigration it's just when the parent culture becomes marginalised and dissipates and people are branded racist for waving the St Georges cross people create foreign ghettos that are left to fester like in Tower Hamlets or Bradford.

There is nothing unique about multiculturalism, if you want that go to New York. England unique culture which Poland still has been shat on, maligned and is vanishing.

The Irish came here in the 19th -20 th centuries in very large numbers and they assimilated into English Culture, The French Protestants (Huguenots) came in in the 17th-18th and did the same as did the Eastern European Jews who assimilated into cockney culture in London in in the 1890s.

read what Cleese said
thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3791303/John-Cleese-London-is-no-longer-English-city.html

John Cleese: "I love having different cultures around but when the parent culture kind of dissipates, you're left thinking, 'What's going on?' "

If I went to Uzbekistan I wouldn't expect to find the local chippy a pint of Newcastle brown ale and the Uzbek government to bend over backwards to teach me Uzbek.

aside of the fact that the level of immigration has been out of control, the very fundamental fabric of England has become so uncool and vilified to such an extant that what ken Livingstone was asked what's so great about Britain: 'oh its the Multi culturalism'.

Multiculturalism is just a load of other foreign cultures. NO, England has been here for 1000 years, but it has been reduced to being New Labour forcing us to be proud of having lots of different foreign cultures as the only unique aspect about England.

Oh England, what hath yea become?
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

well that's load of ol pony, never been to the SwAN in Stokwell or a fundraiser gig elsewhere in London?//????

London is no Longer an English city, it looks like a 3rd world ghetto.

come to Trowbridge in Wiltshire near where I live and you will see that Polish and English people do not really mix outside work.

youtube.com/watch?v=lF6zBJjvyOQ

integration:

youtube.com/watch?v=UH3s9AIvi_o

Thought it was White British and White Other

I don't want to be to be called 'white' that is an American term I am of English ethnic origin. There is a tick box for Chinese, Pakistani, Indian on the census form, and Black African and Carrabian, yet all I get is White British. no I'm simply English not European, Not Scottish, not White, I'm English!

English and wider British society has become so Americanised that the media no longer refer to say English people in Bradford and pakistani people in bradford, they would say White people and Pakistani Asian people.

There was an England before Multiculturalism, the government cares more about bending over backwards to accommodate immigrants than English people. You are now 'racist' for being proud of English culture. the government funds Muslim and Hindu street festivals in some areas yet does not do the same thing for St Georges day.

There are offcial Thames Valley Police signs in Polish in parts of Reading saying ' Please do not drink in the street'.

If I moved to Poland to live I would learn Polish and not expect the polish government to give me free Polish lessons.

Im English not White.
facebook.com/group.php?gid=107591040154
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

I am not proud to be white, white is an American concept I'm English, of English ethnicity. It really annoys me that English people have been reduced to a colour, I was at the doctors surgery the other day and I had to write in ENGLISH in the other ethnic tick box instead of White Black or Asian. Oh England, what hath yea become? (Blair I sh*t on you)

A Belorussian or Jew born in Poland was regarded as ethnically Belorusian or Jewish of Polish citizenship. I have been reduced to a colour in the land of my roots, the left wing media talks about the 'white working class' (when they mean English working class) Poles are the same colour as me and it makes no sense to call me white.. No I am NOT WHITE I am English. Simple as.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

they will no longer have a legal right to work here and will have apply for work permits, after which only a fraction (20% at a guess) would be granted.