History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


Winston Churchill was a fascinating man, not just for changing the world, but also for being a genius. He was very intelligent and used it to help himself and others around him. First, in 1953, he won the Nobel Prize for literature with his book, Richard Carvel, which was a romantic historical novel in the American Revolution. This made people think..

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no, it doesn't sound like Churchill was dumb.

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yep, forget Cali, LOL

USA, Canada / What do Polish people think of the USA [287]


very true. Your description matches most of the South, in general.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


I'm not talking about 1935/36


alone the promise to help was already unrealistic

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Now to answer the rest of your questions, the Wehrmacht had several distinct advantages, early in the war, which made them appear near invincible. First, they had a Long tradition of professional officers and excellent training. Second, they had started to rearm and retool for the coming war much earlier than anyone else. Thirdly, the leadership was open to new ideas, wanting to avoid a replay of WWI, and thus the ideas of Rommel and Guderian were given a fertile bed in which to grow. Finally, excellent German engineering and a powerful industrial base were also harnessed earlier than anyone else's were, and this the Germans entered the war years ahead of their opposition in tank design and production, in the design of modern artillery, and in aircraft, and also in having a amy trained in all of these new weapons, and comfortable with their capabilities.

As a result of these advantages, the Germans were able to employ the new tactics and new equipment to great effect in the first several years of the war, running down enemies who's tactical innovation and technology research and development had stagnated. In addition, France and Great Britain had not geared up for war nearly as fast, and therefore could neither replace their equipment losses so easily, nor could they field troops who were nearly so well trained.

(now I need a break. Got a freaking headache today).

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


just look at some documentaries from that time and compare their equipment with that of other armies.


that too

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

I do.


not really. Just look how fast they were progressing through the entire continent. Honestly, they couldn't help you guys, even if they tried.
However, I agree, they shouldn't have made any unrealistic promises, they were unable to fulfill to begin with.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


the most advanced technology that allowed them to produce the most advanced weaponry ;-)

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

exactly, they had the most advanced technology and the best equipped armed forces back then and that's why I said earlier " no one was able to face the Germans one on one back then and even if the Brits and'or French, tried to help Poland, they would be slaughtered just like anyone else".

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

yeah, there are always multiple reasons for failure or success ;-)

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

the key factor was that no one was able to face the Germans , one on one back then and even if the Brits and'or French, tried to help Poland, they would be slaughtered just like anyone else. The mistake they made was to promise help that was never realistic but obviously expected.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


a little reminder, Barney


was that based on sound, historical knowledge too???

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


Barney (btw. most Brits on PF), I regret to report, you've been brainwashed by the communist propaganda machine and you believe in the invincibility of the great Soviet Union. What you say is based on your beliefs and not on facts. None of it can be proved anymore so let's agree to disagree. Whatever will be said from now on, will be a pure waste of time for both of us.


REALLY Barney?

historylearningsite.co.uk/katyn_wood_massacre.htm

They were shut in the back of the head. Barney, maybe it's time to rethink your strategy?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

I wasn't really judging your language skills, more what you were saying but you're welcome, no matter what you say.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


goofy is a Brit, right? I was talking to him.

Btw. on the other hand however, helping them, was like helping all of you, one way or another. Then again, why even discuss about it now? Is it gonna change anything? NO, so why waste time on a "what if" debate? It's all over and done. AMEN !!! .

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


I bet, he's got a link or two to support his claim.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


our soldiers died to save your butts, ain't that enough already? (not to mention all kinds of other help).

I don't understand why our governments work together so closely, a huge mistake in my eyes. I'd rather see us work closer with Poland and a few other countries instead.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

is it?

dailykos.com/story/2006/12/29/285112/-British-Make-Final-Payment-of-WWII-Debt-to-USA

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

yeah, that's a good 1

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


but we could have limited our actions to the Japs. We could have stayed out of Europe at least for a while but Churchill convinced FDR to join the war and we did. Oh well, too late now to complain.

Btw. we never promised to help Poland so if you want to b/tch, leave us out of it.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]


well, America wasn't your ally until late.

After seeing what kind of bs we're getting from all of you in Europe, I wish, we would have never joined that freaking war. Our soldiers died for a bunch of ungrateful Europeans.

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you're right about that

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sounds like fun

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did you mean to say Königsberg, Prussia?

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it almost looks like some of you guys are obsessed with the word "owe".

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agree. no way in hell

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I know it's tough but it's time to move on, man. She ain't worth it. Get what you deserve.

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and I'm wondering if this is not just another anti catholic thread on PF.

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that sounds about right but yet, anytime the discussion went politics, 90% of those who I've talked to, were left wingers.


that's true, it seems like we gathered the creme de la creme of left wingers on PF (most of them are nice people though).


agree 100% (as long as it has nothing to do with communism/socialism, I'm all for it).