USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Statistics to support that claim please.


a) No it does not: the point about taxes is that one pays them and then trusts the government to spend the money wisely. One is not able to direct where ones money goes.

b) If these Polish 'expats' want to help Poland, there is nothing stopping them from paying taxes in Poland. They are perfectly welcome to simply donate their money to the Polish State Treasury. They clearly think that they have the right to control how the Polish government spends its money, so they should make sure that the Polish government has money to spend. How much do you donate to the Polish State Treasury?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


If they announce that Poland isn't a good enough place for them to live, why should they have any say in how Poland is run? They don't want Poland, so why should Poland be forced to tolerate them?


If they loved their country as much as they claim, they would not leave it: they would stay there and work to make the country better.


So let them go and make money. After they have made enough and have returned to Poland, i.e. after they have agreed that their country is more important than the size of their wallet, they can vote here again.

News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]


Actually I could. All I'd need is a secluded working space, a sturdy chair, a roll of duct tape, a hammer and a box of nails and you would call me absolutely anything I told you to.

Work / Long Term Stay Visa in Poland (ESL teacher) [6]


In that case just register yourself as a dzielnosc gospodarcza and you're good to go: you can work anywhere.


Tricky? Try 'pretty much impossible'! But get your CV out and start looking for work. I'd suggest Lang LTC, ACT, Archibald, Worldwide and Mike Mills (but those are just off the top of my head and I have been pretty much out of the teaching 'game' for five years).

News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]

I wouldn't hesitate for a single second: she is Ms Grodzka, end of story.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

The sad thing is that there are posters here who seriously do believe that operatives from foreign intelligence agencies post here to blacken the image of Poland!

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


I wonder why you might want to duck questions about the time you have spent in Poland over the last decade.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Yes I have, for all of that time. What about you?

News / Will you be proud of tranny (transsexual) representing Poland ? [124]

a) Is she actually confirmed as an MP yet?
b) She isn't the first in the world but she will be the only current transgendered MP in the world.
c) I'll be no more or less proud of her than I am of any Polish MP (until I have heard what her views are and seen what her actions are).

Work / Long Term Stay Visa in Poland (ESL teacher) [6]

I assume that you aren't an EU national (?). Which country are you from? And do you have a Karta Pobytu?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Please keep thinking that: our country is far better off without the likes of you in it.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Two years is too short a period. I'd favour something more like ten years (less if the person in question takes up citizenship of a foreign country).

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Have a look at the words of Poles: wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/polonia-w-usa-juz-oddala-glosy,1,35463 94,wiadomosc.html


No matter how many times you tell your favourite little lie, it will not become true. But do feel free to keep spouting Nazi propaganda.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


How nice of you to once again demonstrate your masterly debating skills. However, might I draw your attention to the rules of this forum:


Your posts in this thread are littered with both insults and personal attacks. I fear that you may soon find that in the same way that certain people can not come to Europe, certain people are not permitted to post here.


The majority of Poles do not agree with you and soon the wishes of Poles on this matter will be respected.


a) Your logic is entirely flawed: British people who choose to live in Poland and to assist Poland are the exact opposite of the traitors who reject Poland.

b) Poland does not allow anybody who does not hold Polish citizenship to vote in elections for the Polish parliament.
c) Poland is legally required to allow all EU nationals to vote in local elections in Poland (although very few of us do).

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Those people turned their backs on Poland, renounced their allegiance to Poland and refuse to do anything to assist Poland: they reject their responsibilities, Poland will reject their attempts to exercise their rights.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Yes, but one can very easily, and entirely legally, take the amount of taxes down to a level far below that which I currently pay.


How surprising to see you putting forward such an entirely selfish attitude. Those of us who live in Poland are very grateful that Poles are not as utterly focused on their own selves as self-identified members of Polonia are. Poles work together for the good of Poland and know that it is their duty to do that. They understand that with rights come responsibilities. This is one of the many reasons why Poles have so little time for those who reject Poland with their actions but claim Poland with their words.


It will be a day much sooner when people who reject Poland are stripped of their right to vote in Polish elections.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I wonder how long you will be allowed to get away with substituting insults for argumentation.


It is not where they find themselves to be: it is where they choose to be. They choose to reject Poland, soon Poland will choose to reject them.


I have more than one citizenship and qualify for several others.


90zl per week. A total amount which is repaid many times over each year by the taxes I choose to pay in Poland.


Why do Poles expect to be given voting rights when they move to other countries for money or other selfish reasons? And why do some 'Poles' think that as well as getting those rights they should maintain the same rights in the country which they abandoned money or other selfish reasons?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Clearly you can not be talking about me: I wasn't born in Britain (and neither were my parents) and I came to Poland to do voluntary work at the invitation of the Polish government. But do feel free to tell us all about all the wonderful things you do for Poland.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


There is a more simple rule: anybody who calls their grandmother "Busia" should have no say in how Poland is run.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]




Are you actually able to discuss things without insulting people? It looks very much that you are not.


If they have turned their backs on Poland, rejected Poland, renounced all allegiance to Poland and do not do a single thing for Poland, they should not have that right. Rights are accompanied by responsibilities: these people have refused to accept their responsibilities and so should be stripped of their rights.


No, it is exercising a privilege. People who refuse to help Poland should not be granted such privileges.


We cannot talk about their level of contribution: these people contribute nothing to Poland. But they still think that they should still have the right to tell Poles how Poland should be run. Pathetic.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


I note that you have not a word to say about why people who neither live in Poland nor in any way contribute to Poland should have any say in the running of Poland. Instead you focus your post on a frankly pathetic attempt to provoke me into reacting so that you can run crying to the mods yet again. Sorry but that isn't going to work. I'm not going to insult you, not even if you call my grandmother Ukrainian.

But do feel free to post yet more insults instead of trying to defend the shameless actions of the idiots from Polonia. We all know that they have no moral right to effect live in a country which they have chosen to abandon and continue to shun: this is not their country, they have betrayed this country. But for some reason you leap to their defense. Strange. Could it be that you are trying just a little too hard to be Polonia?

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


Do you think that you could perhaps manage to contribute to this thread without insulting other posters. Thank you in advance.


That would depend on how elastic one's definition of Polish-American is. According to the Polish-American Association close to 500,000 people in the USA are entitled to vote in Polish elections. I wonder how many, if any, of them pay any taxes in Poland or do anything else which benefits Poland in any way.

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]


More like half a million!

USA, Canada / US Polonia 70% for Kaczyński [343]

And yet again Polonia prove that:
a) there is an 80% chance that somebody who is Polonia is also a moron;
b) when it comes to Poland, there should be no representation without taxation. People who choose not to do anything to help Poland should not be allowed to have any say in how Poland is run.

Law / Polish Citizenship, do I have to travel to Warszawa (Warsaw) to get it? [13]

You are a Polish citizen. Contact the embassy in London, much easier that way.

But if you're British, why bother getting a Polish passport? It offers very little you don't get with a British one.

Life / Gypsies or Roma: European and Polish attitudes towards [87]

Such a pity that you are too bigoted and/or stupid to understand that Romani people are not from Romania.

News / Poles start to feel arrogant and superior to Southern Europeans [182]


No, I never noticed that.

Thanks for dropping by here. Byebye.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


There used to be some checks, they were how the axe-murderer who worked at the same school as me was caught, although that was due to Interpol being on the lookout for him rather than the guy having past form.


And murdering women, you forgot about the special Sebian talent for murdering women.

Life / What is Poland's fastest growing ethnic group? [57]

Says who? It is notoriously difficult to get accurate data about how many Vietnamese there are in Poland.

News / British man prosecuted for raping teenage girls in Kraków [47]


I am stating very clearly that whatever the reason for Poland failing to introduce proper background checks for people who work with children actually is, it is highly unlike that the church has anything to do with there being no background checks: priests are already exempted from the checks done on people working with vulnerable kids in Polish state institutions.


Which is why the president of Poland got his lawyers involved in helping Hollywood's most famous paedophile.