News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


Thousands of dead and a collapsing economy, is this your definition of 'excellent'?


Not if this aid is meant to cause trouble in that country.


You're talking about the USSR in the last century. I'm talking about Russia in 2016. So please answer my question: in what way is Russia threatening Poland in 2016?


Congratulations, you've made a pointless research. You're free to waste your time the way you please after all. None of my business.
Plus, you're wrong. Most of the threads I joined had nothing to do with Russia. And the two threads I created both clearly mention "POLAND" in big characters. Did you miss that too?

Something you probably didn't see on my profile is that I wasn't active on PF for months. So you can't really say I'm trying to actively defend anyone. I'm just sharing my point of view, as you do. If you had looked much farther in the past, I think I used to criticize Russia, but I wasn't all that informed back then. Still young and innocent ;)

And if you want to talk about Poland, then let's talk about Poland. I am just sad to see that Poland cannot move on with that russophobia stuff. I happen to read Polish news articles, it helps me understand why many Poles still hate Russia. Although, if you give a look at comments, people aren't naive, and they don't buy everything they're told. Well, some do, some don't.


I wouldn't be surprised if there were trolls paid by other countries too ;)
But I swear, I'm neither Russian nor paid.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]

Jon,


What comparison did I make?


No, it's no "response". The US Department of State has been investing billions in that "revolution" for several years, long before the Maidan events.


I didn't want you to give me your opinion, I was asking for evidence.


I said: what has Russia done to Poland in the RECENT PAST? Try to focus, please.


You don't sound cool, at all. You're obviously emotional on this matter. You can't discuss without being aggressive to the persons who disagree with you. For someone who calls himself a "democrat" from the "free world", this is quite a paradox. I guess your irrational fear of Russia explains a part of your behaviour.

Last but not least, and to show you how far from realities you seem to be, the world is much more heterogeneous than you think. I wouldn't say that most of the world hate Russia and Putin. The Western world represents a small part of all mankind. Other peoples throughout the world may have different opinions than you, and they're not necessarily wrong.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


I didn't say that comparing was always wrong, I just said that we shouldn't try to compare things that are not comparable.


Are you one of those Hillary Clinton's fanatics who are comparing Putin to Hitler?
I'm just saying that Russia is a very complex case and that you can't have an Obama or Hollande (believe me) as head of state.

If not Putin, who else? Tell me. I mean right now, who would make a better president?


No need to intervene militarily when you have spent billions of dollars to train local forces.


To protect their own interest as any other world power would have done in such a situation. Let's not be hypocrites.
And again, prove me that Russia actually invaded Ukraine.
Crimea (Sebastopol) has always been a legal Russian military base, and Russia had the right to have soldiers stationing there.
"The facts however are black and white". So the blame is all on Russia and the West didn't do anything wrong, ever?


Honestly, what wrong has Russia done to Poland in the recent past?



Both ridiculous.
Don't you two have anything better to say than such silly accusations?
Jon, you seem like a smart guy. But on this issue, you sound just too emotional. Cool down, my friend.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


I agree with you, Adrian, unfortunately.


You can't compare Russia with any European country. Russia has a very specific history, is the largest country on the planet, and has huge natural resources. I'm not saying it needs to be run by a dictator, but it surely can't be ruled by a puppet-president, if you know what I mean.

Putin may currently be the best option. For now.


Can you prove this?
Also, the Ukraine crisis is much more complex than just the pretty picture of the Good (West) on one side and the Bad (Russia) on the other side. It's all so political.


Nazi Germany received a lot of equipments and oil (and support) from American companies, why don't you mention that?

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


One third... which means that a clear majority of two thirds (approx. 66%) thinks that Russia wouldn't defeat NATO.
The article also states that most Russians don't want a war with NATO.
See, not silly.


You should have a calm conversation with a Russian citizen, you'd be surprised how 'normal' s/he is.


There may be a cult of personality, but people don't all buy it.
Also, you have such a negative opinion of Putin that you cannot imagine that many Russians (even the educated ones) may praise some of his policies.


You won't like it but... in my opinion, there are much worse regimes in the world than Russia's. These ones are the 'priority'.

I still don't think that Russia is a threat to Europe. To America maybe (economically and politically). But not Europe.
Unfortunately, in the case of a war, the consequences would be terrible for Europe and Russia. America will be fine, as always. And for sure Americans would find a way to benefit from such a disaster.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


And those would be good reasons for another world war, with potentionally hundreds of millions of dead?
Let's be serious, and don't underestimate Russians, they (Russians) know they couldn't win a war against the US+EU+all NATO.
They're not that silly.


The paranoia is on our side too.


You should ask yourself that question, my friend.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


A declaration of war against Poland and Europe and the US, really?
What for?
Why would Russia need to start another world war?

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]

I'm surprised there are still people believing in a Russian aggression of Poland.
The US will do anything to keep their feet (and army) on the European soil, including playing with European citizens' fear of a hypothetical Russian aggression.

Poland is not an ally of the US. It's just one of the only European states who still believes in what Uncle Sam says.

News / Polish government to allow kosher and halal methods of animal slaughter [29]


'Modern' methods are not always used. And slaughter house workers are rarely fully trained for that task (stunning (in theory) and killing animals). Plus, when you have to kill like 50-100 animals an hour, how can you expect animals to be treated 'decently'? Animals are nothing but objects/consumer goods from birth to death.

As Wroclaw1010 said, there is no good or better way to slaugther. It's all about murdering in the end. Halal is just another way to achieve the same bloody goal.

News / Polish government to allow kosher and halal methods of animal slaughter [29]


Doesn't seem so objective to me. How do you know? I have watched the movie Earthlings too, and numerous other movies and books on the matter. The way 'we' treat and kill animals is terrible. I would not say 'our' way is better. As long as we're comparing halal slaughter houses and 'our' industrial 'farms' and slaughter houses.

It's Christmas time. One of the best moments of the year for many people, one of the worst for animals. Clearly. Halal or not.

Language / Polish minority languages [13]


Fortunately, yes, and they're doing pretty well. I've been interested in this language for years. If I ever have the chance to visit Wilamowice, I will.

An example of Wilamowicean:

Language / Polish minority languages [13]

You should try Silesian, or even weirder, Wymysörys (Wilamowicean).

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]


Les Républicains and the Parti socialiste are both liberal parties that support immigration and multiculturalism.

I'd rather say that the French (those who voted as well as those who didn't) showed how much they are wary and angry at their politicians.

The Parti socialist came to power because the French had had enough of Sarkozy's party (Les Républicains, formerly known as UMP). And now Les Républicains (and the Front national) are back to business because the French have had enough of this government. It's always the same story.


Common sense and propaganda ;)


Exactly.


+1

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

And what is winning?

The French Parti socialiste (PS) hasn't been very socialist in the past few years. Not sure they can really be called socialists.

News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Considering the fierce media and state propaganda that French voters are facing and will be facing until next Sunday, Front National may not end up with so many regions in the end. Even tho French people are fed up with the political status quo and have lost faith in 'their' politicians. Which partly explains why FN is so high.

I mean, it was all meant to be. Considering the situation.

History / Time for Slavic Commonwealth around Poland as center [160]

The idea of Intermarium is interesting, but I just read an article stating that the project was... US-backed. Which makes me wonder.
I wonder if Americans support the project to, again, contain Russia on Europe eastern borders, or to divide and weaken Europeans even more.
Maybe both.

News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]


Not as much as Western Europe. But Poland's participation in the 2003 Iraq invasion and destruction could be a 'good' pretext for a terrorist attack unfortunately.


Our meat is not cruelty-free, really.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


That and emigration. Too many Poles still don't see their future in Poland, and that's a big problem. It means that even the Poles who make babies may leave the country (with their babies).

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]

Where are Polish bases in the US? ;) If we are allies, it should work both ways. Poland could help protect the US against Mexican and Canadian threats.

It seems America is still willing to 'contain' Russia which is not good for Poland. Poland's national interest is to have good diplomatic relations with its neighbors, including Russia. Today, the biggest threat for Poland is the economic crisis, its demography, and ISIS (we never know). I really don't think Russia has any interest in Poland.

News / US air base to be in Poland [193]


No 'especially'. Russia would not attack a NATO country either way. What would be its interest in doing so anyway? Tell me why on earth would Russia attack Poland? For its rich natural resources? To 'protect' its Russian minority? To defend itself from the deadly Polish army forces? I can't see any (reasonable) reasons for Russia to invade Poland.

Poland is a NATO member. That's more than enough. No need for a foreign occupation on its soil.

Genealogy / Create gene bank of Slavic and therefore Polish people? [44]


It just doesn't sound so cool when you want to make genetically modified babies, that's the thing.

Language / "Pan" or "Ty" - how people address each other in Poland? [55]


For you it's not, but it is for many people, even if they may not be really aware of it. It just doesn't sound good. There are many things related to 'Eastern Europe' and it's not just good stuff, if you know what I mean ;) Unless one has travelled throughout Europe, the picture we get from that part of Europe is not positive. Because we've heard/read/watched too many things in our media.

I know that this general 'feeling' about Eastern Europe is wrong, I mean it doesn't fully reflect reality, at all. But it will take time to finally change people's inconscious and overcome stereotypes.


Ktos, I posted that 8 years ago. I was young back then ;)
Still, since you want to speak 'culturally', do you think a Pole from Silesia or Poznan is as 'Eastern' as a Pole living on the Ukrainian border?

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

InPolska, Poland has been in the middle of both the Eastern and the Western 'worlds' for centuries, and has been influenced by both.
Some Poles may be kind of 'ashamed' of being called Eastern Europeans, for the pejorative connotation the term may carry. But lots of Poles don't really feel ashamed, they just feel it's not really accurate. They know they're a sort of mix of these different cultures. They cannot consider themselves Eastern (only). Also, Eastern implies orthodox. Poles are catholic. That's a huge difference, culturally speaking.

Genealogy / Create gene bank of Slavic and therefore Polish people? [44]


That's what we call eugenics, which is ethically very... questionable.
We all have 'ideals' but sometimes it's better to just let Mother Nature work on her own.
A human being is not a car you can customize, that's what I mean ;)

News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]


Until the first terrorist attack taking place in Poland. Hopefully not in a too near future...
Islamists would have no reason to threaten Poland if Poland hadn't accepted to come and destroy Afghanistan and Iraq with the US & co.

Travel / Information on Gliwice needed [41]


This one is in English, just found it.
poland.gabinohome.com/en/apartments-rent/gliwice
If you want to try in Polish, here are a few links:

otodom.pl/wynajem/mieszkanie/gliwice/

dom.gratka.pl/mieszkania/gliwice/wynajem/

domiporta.pl/wynajme-mieszkanie-slaskie_gliwice?Localization=%C5%9Bl%C4%85skie%2C%20Gliwice&LocalizationId=14744&PrevLocalization=%C5%9Bl%C4%85skie%2C%20Gliwice

olx.pl/nieruchomosci/mieszkania/wynajem/gliwice/

Travel / Information on Gliwice needed [41]


There is. It seems the closest bus stop to your future (?) workplace would be 'Gliwice Fadom' (lines 8 and 58).
Example: from 'Plac Piastów' (close to Gliwice's railway station) to 'Gliwice Fadom' => 12 minutes (line 58).
Look here.
rozklady.kzkgop.pl/kzkgo/index.php?co=mapa
(and choose 'english')


If it's a snowy winter, that would be complicated I think.


You'd better start looking for offers before you go and maybe get some appointments.
When I went there, I found my apartment very quickly (a couple of days). A friend of mine lived there for a while too and she didn't speak a word of Polish. She didn't have much trouble finding a nice apartment either.

News / Poland Sports News [981]

That was quite something. The fifth goal is brilliant.
I like Guardiola's face right after the 'massacre' ;)

News / Russia threatens Poland over monument [33]


Many Russians are Orthodox Christians, who were shocked by such a gross behaviour in a sacred place.
I'm not saying those girls deserved to spend some time in labour camps. But I'm not Russian, and I don't live under Russian legislation. And I don't wander around naked in churches.


I won't pretend I'm shocked. That's what every country does/says when intervening without UN approval. But only Russia gets 'punished' (with sanctions) for doing this. When we (the 'free world') do it, it's alright.


Are you saying the Russian government kills gays now?


What has Russia done to Poland lately? Apart from (supposedly) threatening it for moving (or destroying) monuments away?
Many Poles seem a little paranoid when it comes to Russia. A little more perspective would be nice. They would realise there is no reason to be that scared.


You're aware that Russia is filled with billionaires who (at least some of them) are ready to do anything to protect their own interests, aren't you?

Some of them could even support and arrange the assassination of a political opponent or journalist and make everyone accuse the government for it. That 'strategy' was commonly adopted by the CIA in Central and South America last century to destabilise unwanted governments.


That and massive Western propaganda I'd say. Here's an interesting poll that was held in France in 1945, 1994, and 2004. The question was: 'In your opinion, what nation contributed the most to Nazi Germany's defeat in 1945?'. The results show that most respondents in 1945 thought it was the USSR that contributed the most. Strangely, that vision changed totally with time.



Source
fabiusmaximus.com/2014/07/29/french-ww2-contribution-defeat-nazi-70200/

News / Russia threatens Poland over monument [33]


That and singing blasphemous songs in a sacred place (church as you said).


Many people could have done that kind of stuff. There's no evidence that the government was behind these assassinations.


I've seen stuff from Gay Pride parades that I really wouldn't want kids to see, honestly. Plus, Russia has its values, we shouldn't meddle into that kind of things. Unless they're killing gays, this is not our business. And do gays need parades? Well I guess that's another issue anyway ;)


I think I know who you're talking about. But from what I saw he's not taken seriously even by Russians ;)

Still, I'm pretty sure Russia wouldn't do anything. Especially if Poland doesn't destroy all these monuments and returns them to Russia.
Respect and diplomacy, that would be cool.