UK, Ireland / The British law on someone cutting down a piece of your garden [13]


Actually I think they did. I also did some research in to this.

1/ It was not on his land, it was over the fence on to an alley way between their property and our garden. The alley is public for people that have gardens there, not part of his land.

2/ Some branches were over it but he cut the top of the whole tree [as beckski said]. He went and cut it at the trunk, that is inside our property [I know it is him as I know who did it now].

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


A few times is not regularly but your mind was probably made up before then. I agree Rzeczpospolita might actually be neutral, well as neutral as it can be. I have not read it myself but I know people who say it is a decent, fair, even playing field newspaper.


I do not think it should be closed down. Most news channels are mouthpieces for politians. Even if TVP was pro PiS [it is not anymore], that would even it up. Since TVN and Polsat, and Superstacja. although I would not say Superstacja is really considered mainstream media, blatantly seem to be anti PiS [do not bother trying to tell me they are neutral], it seems fair that TVP was more on their side.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


See what I think is, you don't actually read Gazeta Polska, this is why the above, is the only so called 'lie' you can come up with, because you assumed, since I mentioned it, that Gazeta Polska must have had it, since once again, you assumed, that I read Gazeta Polska. What is happening is, you are criticizing me for having an opinion about TVN and Polsat based on what Gazeta Polska tells me, when actually I watch TVN24, Polsat News and even occasionally Superstacja and make up my mind from that. You on the other hand probably make up your mind about a paper like Gazeta Polska based on what TVN, Polsat, Gazeta Wyborcza or other anti PiS newspapers tell you. I wonder if you actually read the paper regularly and then decide for yourself whether it is full of lies, or whether you just accept what those who dislike it say, that is is full of lies? This is why you do not want to argue about the media in Poland, you do not know about what the opposition media says, you just hear what the anti PiS media tells you about how awful they are. As for the media being political, of course it is, I already told you that. TVP is certainly is starting to get a little anti PiS now [since PO have put their guys to alter it], on issues like the crash it is still antil PO [but probably more anti Russian], but on other stuff I can see how it is turning. I would not say TVP used to be pro PiS, I thought it was neutral, this is why PO did not like it, because there was a lack of PiS criticism. The only truely pro PiS TV channel is TRWAM, but TRWAM do not pretend to be neutral like Polsat or TVN, they are PiS supporters and it is clear.


This is just it, they did not just fight political enemies, they also found guys in PiS who were also guilty of corruption and threw them out, this is why the coallition dissolved. It was not, you are guilty, only if you are in an opposing party, but you are guilty if you do something wrong. As it happened, most of the corruption was in the other parties. Anyway it was not just the political corruption they tried to stop but corruption in general.


I have not heard of the denial of proffesorships, but I'll try to look in to it. As for the TVP thing, if true, PO is hardly doing anything different now.


To comment on a previous post that you made as to why you live in Poland. This is a weird responce. Why Poland? There are probably plenty of countries with better governments where more 'fun things' are happening?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

Okay and then the following quote.


So hold on. Things are so terrible, as you described in the above paragragh, and yet you like the job that the current government is doing? I see. Oh I am assuming this mess is all left over from the PiS era right? You realise you are full on contraditions? You did if before too. You said you were glad that Kaczynski signed the Lisbon treaty but spend a number of posts criticizing him for doing it.


Again, opinion based. Show me proof of them having told lies. I suppose that all the lies from other anti PiS media is true by your standards right? PO also had no corrupt polititions, it was all lies. No?


As it happens I watch a lot of it as they are the main media. My mother has it on all the time when she is at home as she wants to know what is going on and these are the mainstream media. The anti PiS bias is glaringly obvious and actually a little frightening. Not to say they never criticize PO, they do sometimes. Things in Poland are bad, so they have to. Do you want me to list you examples of when I have seen anit PiS bias in Polsat and TVN? I could do it, off the top of my head, if you want me to.


Well I would describe it as a party of patriots firstly. I know this is unpopular with a lot of people who think it is just a slogan and excuse not to do anything and criticise others as not being patriotic, but I really do think they are patriotic. Are they perfect? No. Are they going to sort all the 'bad stuff' out? No. However, they are not corrupt. They have previously thrown out people from their party who were corrupt. They did not treat them 'differently' because they were in their party. PO seems to find this difficult. They also find it difficult to throw someone out, who did a terrible job. With Klich, what did they do? They let him go after explaining that he has done a wonderful job. What sense does that make? If PiS wins I think they will

A/ Continue to fight corruption, hard.

B/ Have a proper investigation done regarding the airplane disaster in Russia. No accusations. A proper investigation with all the evidence there to examine, to find out the truth and then and only then, put the case to rest.

C/ Not make Poland a tiny land who just sits quietly in Europe and does what it is told, but make them a country that also has a right to have an opinion and disagree with certain rules and regulations if they feel that way.

D/ Improve financial situation in Poland, or try to. I have not yet had a look at their financial plan but they have one and I think J. Kaczynski talked about it recently in an interview on Polsat. PO had a plan to make the country in to a new Ireland, it failed. Perhaps PiS can have a go now?

Love / Do Polish girls like a guy to kiss them on the first date? [13]

Why is that?

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


You really are a twerp. First you say I am not a true Polak because I have never lived in Poland. I suppose having a Polish name and family, speaking Polish at home, eating Polish food, reading Polish newspapers, going to a Polish Church, supporting the Polish teams in sports, going to Poland often etc is not enough? You on the other hand live [or lived?] in Poland and have much more right to speak out than me. Why do you even live in the country? Why did you leave your native land? Just curious about that.

Secondly. This Gazeta Polska crap. You go on and on. How about admitting reality and not being so biased? How about not acting like such a baby and insulting those who disagree with you by saying they do not have a clue? You are a class example of 'zarozumiały.' Let us tak a look at it from a distance, from a Sociological point of view. You do not like PiS, therefore you dislike Gazeta Polska, as it is pro PiS. I like PiS and therefore I do not like anti PiS media such as Polsat, TVN, Gazeta Wyborcza etc. People like the media that supports what they think and dislike those who criticise it, or praise ideas that they disagree with.

Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]

There are people like that in different countries, not just Poland. It's just the way it is.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]

You know what I noticed from your post. You don't know how to have a discussion. You attack and insult those who disagree with what you believe. You are so ignorant in what you believe that if someone thinks otherwise, then they have 'no clue.' There is no use debating with you and I now understand why so many people on the board consider you an absolute idiot. Oh and by the way, I am more Polish than you are ever going to be and care about the country more than you ever in your cold Russian heart, will, so go spout your crap elsewhere.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


Erm would this anger about him signing it have anything to do with you being Russian? You know that he sided with the European's and when someone does that the Russians feel it is a step against them? Like with NATO.


Well yeah but I still care about the country. I do not just look at what I can gain from it, I hope the country keeps its traditional values and is fair and just.


Not sure if that line is aimed at me but if it was, I never left Poland, I never lived there, so I never 'ran away.' My family is from there and I go there a lot.


A bit of a generalisation. I suppose it is not too dissimilar to what Adam Hoffman of PiS said about the people from the village who have gone mad that got an angry reaction.


Not sure where you get this information from but I would say there was actually quite a bit of corruption.


This is still totally normal for in many countries who have their own currency, to have to exchange money.


What about the countries going bankrupt or close to it?


Actually it is a fact that that many [or a similar amount, I know it was more than a million] votes were void and were not counted because they were filled in, supposedly, badly. A bit suspicious that so many would get a simple voting application wrong. All it takes is for the vote counters to add a tick or 2 and it's void. Anyway if you think that the newspaper Gazeta Polska publishes lies, I wonder what truthful newspapers you read? Gazeta Wyborcza probably.


I love how someone who is not Polish [I assume from what you told me in another post] is telling someone who is, that they do not know anything about their own country. Yet you seem to know so much. I also hear an awful lot of voices on the streets here and in the USA from people who are fed up of PO and want them out. Not to mention voices from people in Poland.

News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]


I think we had this debate previously. You can be angry that he went ahead and signed it but if it was Komorowski he would have signed it even quicker without a thought.

I really hope PO do not win again but I fear they will. People in Poland are too stupid. They think PO is the modern way to go and PiS is old fashioned and backwards. They do not care much that PO is as corrupt as they get, as long as they continue the 'modernisation spiel' they should win. They want to have the Euro. Imagine if Poland had the Euro right now, what a mess that would be. PiS goes for the patriotic arguments that a lot of people seem not to care too much about, since PO won the last elections [although I have doubts about the fairness of the last elections. I heard about 1.4 millions votes were void].

Love / Polish men like Latin girls? What do u find attractive in a girl physically & emotionally? [29]

Well BigBrownEyes you sound hot

....but seriously how about you post a picture of yourself and your teacher and I'll tell you if you 2 can make it together

....but seriously....post the pictures

....no really

Okay now totally seriously, I am not sure if this is a great idea. He is a teacher and you are a student, it could get messy and if any other students found out it could be even messier [they might think he is treating you better etc].

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

An interesting difference in the Polish and British cultures

Ask most British people how they are and regardless of how they really feel they reply

'Not bad'

'Okay'

'Great, you?'

Ask a Polish person and you tend to get

'nawet sie nie pytaj' [don't ask]

'szkoda gadac' [no use even speaking of it]

'jakos tam idzie' [getting by]

It is interesting in how in the British Culture it is just fake smiles not matter how bad things might be while in Poland it is miserable faces even if things are actually not that bad.

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]

So anyway my reasons then.

Poland is great because of the

food [delicious]
pretty girls [most of them]
Catholic values [being Catholic it does mean a lot to me since where I live there are almost none]
language [I like it]
weather [In the summer it is hot and in the winter it is cold, as it should be]

UK, Ireland / Worst of the worst Poles emigrating to Britain? [32]


Don't think it was meant as a joke when said to them. It's not like they think it means something else, it's just the first thing they were taught.

@isthatu2

I am 24 and consider myself young. I know if someone asked me to teach them some Polish I would not start with curse words, not now, not when I was younger. I am not a prude and do know how to have fun but it just says a lot about the class of some people. The same way swearing in public, even if you think noone understand you, says a lot about you.

UK, Ireland / Worst of the worst Poles emigrating to Britain? [32]

Yes but there are probably less of them living in Poland. Unless you are referring to holidays and stuff. Regarding that I have heard that some places have a 'no British people' sign on them. I suppose this is due to the constant problems that they have.

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

So what would your solution be? Do not have the ban so that vulnerable people who cannot go abroad stay in Poland and have it done illegally? Having it done illegally usually has costs, high costs, so if someone cannot leave the country to have it done due to money problems they are unlikely to be able to do it in Poland illegally. Or how about the education system gets a bit of a revamp? Most education nowdays, is liberal propaganda. This is even starting in Poland. How about explaining the problems of abortion early on and not encouraging youngsters to 'hook up' as long as they keep it safe, as these methods can sometimes backfire, but try promoting some of the currently considered 'old fashioned,' family values.

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

What on earth are you blabbering on about delph? What part of my post has made you reach this conclusion?

UK, Ireland / Why Poles will never belong in England [283]

Why is it when I make a harmless, saracastic, joke about someone, for not being able to use grammar properly and therefore wanting to go to Poland and teach a language that you are not great at yourself is a bad idea, my post is deleted? Yet A thread like this and some of the pathetic responces like the ones above are not?

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

Then they can go and do it across the boarder. If a Polish person does not like the law in Poland he can leave, as many do. Other countries legalizing it does not mean Poland has to follow suit like sheep.

News / Andrzej Lepper committed suicide [98]

Agreed I also doubt that he just ended his life. Not only was there no letter, it just does not seem his style to do that. He does not seem like the 'give up when life gets too difficult' type of guy. He is more of a fighter, some would call it 'upartosc.'

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

Merged: Abortion

Not sure if we had this topic but if so it was a long time ago as I do not see a thread on it currently.

What is your view on Abortion?

Should it be legal or illegal?

I personally like the law currently in Poland, that it is illegal, but in exceptional situations it is allowed, such as if the woman's life is at risk and a few other criteria, but other than, keep it illegal. Obviously we have the problem with illegal abortion clinics in Poland but that is not enough of a reason to legalize it.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

I was wondering convex where are you from? I am asking out of curiousity. You seem to have an answer for everything, a bit like the Russians.

As for your comment about the right to assume there was pressure. They had not right. The presence of a superior is not pressure. Some people are very good at handling something that others would consider to be 'high pressure' situations. This is why a superior who is in the cockpit might be wrong but it is not in any proof of pressure. Like I said this is supposed to be a report of facts not conlusions reached from different situations.

By the way why did they not mention the so called 'pressure' on the other end?

Basically what the Russians said seem very convenient in concluding that Poland is totally at fault and Russia did nothing wrong. There is so much 'dodgyness' around this whole case that it is not unreasonable for a person to be suspicious. I mean the black box has taken an age to be given to the Polish side and when it was given it was just a copy, so still no original. There was something else that was asked for recently [not sure what it was, saw it on Polish news, a recording of some sort] that the Russians have said there is no use giving to Poland as it has nothing on it and have not handed it over.

Honestly if the Russians did not feel they were at fault from the start and had nothing to hide then why be so protective? Why not assist and say here is the evidence gathered, it was a terrible tragedy, very sorry fo you, feel free to go and investigate the cause of it. Not, go away, wait till it is checked here first and then you can look at it later on when it is time to.

If you ask me, and this is purely a theory, we have had too many instances in the past of wrong doing by Russia and in this case too many things do not quite fit in to place. The report by Macierewicz is something that you should look at as the Polish Report was always going to put more blame on the Polish side and this was said many times even before it was officially released. Before anyway says that Macierewicz has an agenda, his report is not to be taken seriously, read it. A report led by a PiS representative has got just as much right to be looked at as a PO report. I still think that it is a shame that a neutral team did not take charge that was neither from Poland or Russia.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

I am not going to make analysis regarding the plane as I am not an aviation expert, nor have I seen and analyzed the evidence left over from after the crash. What I can say is that there is a fundamental problems in being able to even put together a report.

Poland has [still] not received all evidence since the crash, despite us now being close to 16 months after the crash. Whey thet have got is what the Russians have given them and we do not know if what they have given them was tampered with or not.

The other thing concerning me is that this is supposed to be factual based. How factual it is I am not sure but the fact that the Russians seem to be making conclusions with no evidence to back it up is very concerning to say the least. How can they say general Blasik was putting on pressure with no evidence? All they can say is that he was in the cockpit, no more. Yet they said that 'obviously' his presence in the cockpit would put pressure on the situation. They have no right to do this.

This is why I am unsure of Russian intentions and am sceptical about trusting them.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

You have to admit it is more the Russian side that do not want to accept blame here. I mean if you have a look at the report from Poland, that I am not sure I agree with but forget that for now, it basically puts the majority of the blame on to the Polish side. The Russians on the other hand still seem to be annoyed that there are comments made as to the airport being of a poor standard etc.

News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [853]

wbj.pl/article-55539-russian-response-to-smolensk-report-on ly-the-poles-were-at-fault.html

Well no surprise that MAK has rejected any part of the Polish Report that puts the Russians at fault.

Basically there are too many things mentioned in MAK that former pilots and other experts in this subject have said are wrong. I have watched it now on various Polish television news channels. I rightfully did not trust the Russian side from the start and was right to do so. PO was wrong to do so. We had an original Russian report that was putting all blame on the Polish side. We had a pathetic responce that also put most of the blame on Poland although they did mentioned that the Russian side also made mistakes. Despite the ass kissing from PO the Russians have dismissed the parts of the Polish report that put any blame on them

The Russian airport was apparently totally ready and had nothing wrong with it. Yeah sure because Russia can do no wrong. I suppose the recent airplane crashing or the 'Bulgaria' ship also had nothing to do with bad organisation.

Side Note - So that you know I am not against Russian citizens I am against the Russian goverment, I was against them and I am probably always going to be if they continue to be led by the Russian KGB criminals who run it.

News / Conservative-liberalism (Laissez-faire liberalism), another utopia for Poland? [99]

I assume the UPR still has the same ideas now as it did in the 1980's, more or less, meaning Korwin-Mikke is a hypocrite. He says we should work for own cash with no assistant from the state but suggests that parties get funded by the state. How about he goes by his own rules, makes some money and then uses that to fund the party.

News / Conservative-liberalism (Laissez-faire liberalism), another utopia for Poland? [99]

In responce to the original post in the thread.

Antek I like the way you wrote dicuss at the bottom as if this was a lesson in school for people to get in to groups and talk it over, then present to the class. Honestly I did not know too much about the ideas of Korwin-Mikke although I know who he is and know he runs in elections whenever they are around. I also know he wears an extremely stupid bow tie but that is beside the point I suppose.

As far as some of the rules he and his party set out, I understand the reasoning for them but they simply do not work. His idea of the state completely staying out of finances does not work. I am assuming this means the state does not fund much in the country although people still have to pay taxes to live in it. Why pay taxes to the state if nothing we use it state owned? What would we pay for? Just the army? That is absurd. Unless the taxing would be a lot lower. You can be fired by anyone at anytime, well again this seems fair on one hand but also means if noone wants to employ a person who is keen to work through choice, what happens to them? They do not get money from the state so what? They die? Living in Britain I understand the state benefits system, it makes sense. The only problem is when it is abused. What it does is guarantee that no matter what happens to you financially you are always going to have enough to survive. If you are out of a job but are honestly looking to find work then you get a some of money to get you through that time. If you have a family you get a bit mroe money. This idea that it is up to us to make money and those who make more have it better does not work because capitalism does not completely work. We do not live in a fair world where you get more the harder you work.

To conclude it seems his ideology suits those who make a lot of money most, as I think someone mentioned. Anyway Antek you said he gave these speeches in the 80s. I assume this was when Poland was still under communist rule? If so it is not surprising it would be music to many ears to hear that the state does not get involved in your business.