Food / Polish Pizza !! The best in the world? [329]


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And people who think pizza + ketchup are a good idea shouldn't talk about the best pizza in the world, lol.

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

Historically and culturally: Central Europe. Feeling when you cross the border: Eastern Europe.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


Exactly. How can you compensate someone for it? And how can you compensate a nation for lost national treasures? Poland received Silesian, Pomeranian or Prussian treasures instead (the university and museums of Warsaw are full of Silesian treasures for instance), but Poles will never feel the same emotional bond. On the contrary, it just creates new tensions... probably Stalins intention anyway.

But: saying Silesia, Pomerania and Prussia are a small compensation is a joke. Houses, land, infrastructure, natural resources, cultural assets... Silesia alone houses 1/4 of all listed objects in Poland. Lech Kaczyński once wanted to determine the exact amount, but quickly forgot the idea again.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


Warsaw was mostly rebuilt with bricks from former Stettin and Breslau. Both cities were partly destroyed for it. Moreover Poland received the property of 9 mio Germans.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


What Stoss made was a late Gothic altar. In Italy however Gothic wasn't en vogue anymore at that time. So Pawian is right. If not Vit Stwosz, the German, Poles would never have acquired *such an altar*.

History / What do Poles owe to Germans? [396]


Better think of Eastern Prussia, Silesia and Pomerania as reparations for WW2.

History / Polish historical myths - to break or not to break them? [257]


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]


Yes, sure:
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_early_modern_universities_in_Europe&action=history

Last edited 18 days before I posted the link here. LOL!

Genealogy / How common is it for other people of Polish origin to discover they are actually Jewish? [127]

pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kaplan

Life / Worlds most liveable cities (Krakow or Warsaw don't even hit the radar screens) [104]


These lists don't care if a city was destroyed or not. Frankfurt was completely destroyed too, but is #7 on the Mercer list.

Life / People living in Warsaw are rootless peasants! [41]

And peasants. 2/3 of them came from villages. There are interesting stories about Polish settlers who weren't accustomed to urban life and kept cows, goats, chickens and pigs in their appartments.

Life / People living in Warsaw are rootless peasants! [41]

Always strange how these two maps match:

Life / Worlds most liveable cities (Krakow or Warsaw don't even hit the radar screens) [104]


Lets compare Vienna, a European capital of roughly the same size and ranked high on these lists, with Warsaw.

Cityscape
Vienna: big historic centre surrounded by huge 19th century quarters in good shape, public sphere clean and not polluted by adverts
Warsaw:

Living quarters
Vienna: mostly average to upscale flats in posh apartment buildings from the 19th century
Warsaw:

Public transport
Vienna: extensive tram network (mostly modern low-floor trams) + big subway network + buses
Warsaw:

Surroundings
Vienna: vineyards, vineyard villages, mountains, forests, close to the alps, to Bratislava (Slovakia), Brno (Czechia), Budapest (Hungary)
Warsaw:

Culture
Vienna: 3 operas, more than 100 theatres, 9(?) symphony orchestras, ca. 100 museums
Warsaw:

Goods, services, etc.
Vienna: lots of traditional, high-class shops and services (KuK), restaurants and goods from every part of the world
Warsaw:

Life / Worlds most liveable cities (Krakow or Warsaw don't even hit the radar screens) [104]

Warsaw was destroyed in WW2 and rebuilt by the Commies... the city is definitely no beauty. Public transport is pretty bad, compared to other cities. The quality of residential property is low(?) to average. Cleanliness? Ever been to Zurich or Geneva? I also miss the advantages of more multicultural cities, like the bigger choice of restaurants and food. Culture is average, since many museum collections were destroyed in the war, and the number of theatres, operas, philharmonic orchestras and so on is only average compared to some other cities. And Warsaw can't score with beautiful surroundings either, unlike cities like Geneva or Vancouver.

Travel / Mosques in Krakow? [131]


Words of wisdom. Poland is a Western country, shaped by humanism and the enlightenment. Church and state are separated, and individual freedom is guaranteed. A place for muslims to practice their faith is their right.

Travel / Mosques in Krakow? [131]


With synagogues?

Travel / Mosques in Krakow? [131]


Maybe because Poland isn't the Christian equivalent of Saudi-Arabia?

Life / Worlds most liveable cities (Krakow or Warsaw don't even hit the radar screens) [104]

Look at the criteria of these lists:

widespread availability of goods and services
low personal risk
effective infrastructure
education
hygiene
health care
culture
environment
recreation
political-economic stability
international connectivity
climate/sunshine
quality of architecture
tolerance
environmental issues and access to nature
urban design
business conditions
pro-active policy developments

It's actually quite obvious why no Polish city is on the list (yet).

Life / 3 reasons why you hate Poland. [1049]

First of all, I don't hate anything, and certainly not entire countries. Some things I dislike about Poland are:

1) the combination of victim complex and overly romantic conception of history (Christ among nations). Makes rational discussions about history almost impossible. Although the younger generation is already much different.

2) the ruination of the "recovered territories". Mostly thanks to the Commies. Thank god the younger people, teens and twens, get interested in their home now. Often too late.

3) the lack of rules in the public sphere. Big and small adverts everywhere, tasteless buildings full of turrets and battlements, no settlement plans and so on. Sometimes Poland looks like a big mess.

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]


1. It's not my claim but the claim of Wikipedia.
2. Academies are no universities. Looks like stupidity rules in this forum.
3. the university of Warsaw was established after the Polish partitions.


Population around 1700:
Germany: 15 mio
France: 21 mio
Spain: 5 mio
Italy: ~13 mio
Poland: 8 mio

And?

Not the best source, but good luck finding a better one:
tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/index.html


Never seen a university from the inside, eh?
So, what with your theory about judging "noteworthy cultures" by the number of universities now? Should Western Europeans consider Poland to be a noteworthy culture ot not? Maybe you simply shouldn't start with such stupid generalisations...

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

And? It wasn't my argument that the culture of a nation can be judged by the number of universities. And even without shortlived universities the number in Western countries is way higher than in Poland. In case France only had 15 continuously operating universities, the ratio would still be 5:1.

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_early_modern_universities_in_Europe

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]

Number of universities before 1772 (Polish particions):
France: 40
Italy: 32
Spain: 35
Germany: 34
Poland: 3

How many universities are needed to be a "noteworthy culture"?

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]


A land with several large ethnic groups is multicultural. Neo-Nazis usually don't accept the concept of multiculturalism. Pomerania was German, what you mean is Pomeralia. And the "never denied German heritage" in Silesia comprises of expelled people and a deliberately destroyed culture till the 80's.


Want examples?

Oh btw., dear mod:
2. Posters should refrain from using abusive or derogatory language (unless it's necessary to explain the language's nuances). Posters who use abusive or derogatory language towards other users may be banned.

Bloody retard and Neo-Nazi?

History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]


No, it made it a multicultural land.


Poles did the same in their "recovered territories".

News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

Chicago Pollock


Because Poland already received the entire property of 9 mio Germans maybe?


Sorry to say this, but Polands civil society isn't advanced enough to emulate these countries. Which country wouldn't like to be a second Switzerland?

News / Should Poland leave the EU institution? [147]

So, US-Americans, Brits and a Serb discuss if Poland should leave the EU. Haha...
All former Commie countries, including Poland, pushed hard become EU members. Western Europe was reluctant to admit them so soon because of the convergence criterias, but it was seen as a sign of historic justice. When Schengen was implemented Poles, and all other countries like Czechia, were overjoyed to be a full member of the European community now. Being able to drive from Poland to Germany without a border check, something many Poles considered humiliating, was a great experience for many.

And we shouldn't forget that Poland is the biggest recipient of EU aid.

Love / Is it true that Polish women are very busty? [71]

This thread needs more pics. :D

News / Russia says: WE'LL NUKE POLAND [150]


Have you ever been to Europe or any Slavic country? Maybe you didn't notice, but most Slavic countries (except Serbia and Russia, interestingly) see themselves as part of the West and joined both the NATO and EU as soon as possible. Have you noticed that all Slavic federations collapsed? You know why? Because federations are built on interests, not on some strange panslavic ideas which ignore that these nations don't share more than the same ethno-linguistic background. Not even Czechs and Slovaks wanted to live in the same country, and you think it would work with Poles, Russians or Serbs?

News / Russia says: WE'LL NUKE POLAND [150]


Poland tries new things. Being part of the EU and NATO is new to Poland... and it actually works, unlike such ideas as unions based on ethnicity. They weren't a great success in the past.