Polonia / Anyone travelling from Warsaw to New Delhi willing to take some of my belongings (photos)? [30]

Cut the bull****.

I haven't called You any names, if I did so - please quote them.

Frankly speaking, Your "offer", "favour request", whatever, sounds like something that can land someone in prison for a very long time ( just the other day I read about a book written by a Pole who ended up in a Thai jail for quite a few years due to some similiar **** ), so don't be surprised with the reaction You got here.

You can legally carry someone else's belongings - I have personally seen a person with a valid ticket being turned away from check-in after she confirmed she took someone else's luggage with them and did not pack it personally. It was a trans-atlantic flight, don't recall the airline.

Edit2: 123, sir, madam, whoever You are - plz don't pm me any further, I will not change my point of view.

Polonia / Anyone travelling from Warsaw to New Delhi willing to take some of my belongings (photos)? [30]

No need

I wouldn't even carry someone's jeans in my luggage on an airplane. If I don't know the person that is, of course. There have been cases where for example heroin is washed INTO a jeans. The person who is carrying the thing doesn't notice, but some sweet, cute little cuddly dog on the airport does. It starts scratching its paws on the suitcase and the one whose name is on it, gets a rather nasty interrogation in a small office on the airport by some people who don't seem too happy with the person in question.

Not to mention that certain organizations that routinely move drugs across the borders will often throw in what can be called a "red herring" on the day another, bigger shipment is moving through. They'll set some poor ******* up for the fall, so the authorities are busy with dealing with him and look the other way.

Is heroine or Cocaine popular in Poland ?

Dunno about heroin, but cocaine is rather popular in certain circles in Warsaw. A far cry from London town though.

Polonia / Anyone travelling from Warsaw to New Delhi willing to take some of my belongings (photos)? [30]

Honestly, if he/she finds someone dumb enough to fall for it despite what we wrote here it will be karma and natural selection if that person gets "butt focked", sold into white slavery, arrested or drowned in the rose-smelling Ganges <grin>

Genealogy / Jolanta born in Wusz. Help me find my true love from 23 years ago - PLEASE! [13]

Yeah, it could be Lodz.

My tip is - visit the Polish facebook rip-off. You can find it here: nk.pl

Register and You'll get the search function. Who knows. Might work if she's not a "Kowalska". Remember the abbreviated, often used version of her name which she could have used there is "Jola".

Love / Foreign Men and Polish Girls for Citizenship [59]

stop going to UK AND EU countries like germany

Can someone ban this guy?

He's obviously a troll.

Clue: Poland/Italy/Uk/Germany = European Union.

pakistan = not European Union.

turkey = not European Union.

Real Estate / Stan deweloperski vs stan surowy [developing or undeveloping property state] [36]

Deweloperski vs surowy - while You were given the answer, please double check what Your local, Polish developer means by "deweloperski" so You don't get a nasty surprise at the end of the whole process.

Real Estate / Stan deweloperski vs stan surowy [developing or undeveloping property state] [36]

Ahh, so different developers have different definitions?

How do I put it mildly so some people don't get offended...

There are "developers" out there in Poland that will try to **** You on Your hard-bought flat/house numerous times, "stan deweloperski" included.

Just make sure that what precisely constitutes "stan deweloperski" is somewhere in written form ( like in Your contract ).

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Ok, this here is going in the wrong direction.

TS is American, the right to bear arms is universally recognized in all U.S. states and is a significant part of American identity. Please don't treat him like a koala bear on an eucalyptus-fuelled rampage, he's just being American.

1) You will not be able to carry Your U.S. firearm in Poland.

2) The chances of You legally obtaining a CCW for a firearm for self-defence purposes in Poland are 0%.

3) There is no such thing as a "gun at home" in Poland. Each and every gun requires a proper permit ( rifles, shotguns ) or a CCW ( pistols ), regardless of where You store it and where You take it.

4) People that I personally know in Poland who obtained CCW's and aren't "hunters" usually fit the same mold: former Polish police/military, formerly employed by one of the local 3 letter agencies or businessmen who happen to be extremely well connected locally. Oh, yes, and politicians.

You do the math.

5) Right of self-defence in Poland is extremely different from what You've got in U.S. and the "castle doctrine" doesn't exist. If a man attacks You and You shoot him dead You will be in trouble even if he had 5 inches and 150 pounds on You. Running for the embassy does seem Your best bid in such a case.

6) Having a "weapon" ( notice, I stopped using the term firearm, pistol, etc. ) in Poland without a proper permit is a criminal offence. Same applies to firearm ammunitions. Jail sentences are not unusual.

7) A "weapon" is ********** defined by appropriate Polish law. Not going to get into the details, but let's just say this:

A baseball bat is a weapon ( named as such in the appropriate legal act which I believe was quoted here ), requires a permit and You can go to jail for having one without it. Apparently it became some sort of a boogeyman in the 90's, hence this stupidity.

A knife is not considered a weapon for the purposes of needing a permit for it ( see appropriate legal act ). Neither is a machete. Or a sword, battleaxe, ranseur or bec de corbin. Why? They're not in the said legal act. You can carry them, even openly. But if You use them they'll be considered as weapons for the purposes of deciding what crime You actually committed.

Yeah, I know, welcome to Eastern Europe.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]

Where are You planning to live in Poland ( location will make a world of a difference ).

Where are You from ( my guess is India from another thread, but I want to confirm ).

How educated is Your Polish boyfriend's family?

Clear that up and will try to give You a frank answer.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]

Any inputs appreciated!

Well, I guess I missed the asterisk and the small print saying that mine wasn't.

Sorry :-)

Midas - First of all, did i ever say i have a polish boyfriend?

No, You didn't, but if You don't it is rather baffling why You ask the whole question here in the first place.

The title of the thread is "Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences" and the question You want answered is "what it is like to be in an interracial marriage here in Poland"... You have "female" listed as gender... Am I missing something here? I'm not going to be a dick and suggest that You don't understand the phrases You use ( like "interracial marriage" ).

Frankly speaking - if You wanted information for Yourself You'd honestly provide the precious few details I kindly asked for and the fact that You don't do that ( throwing odd verbal jabs instead ) suggests that something fishy is going on.

So, just to be on the safe side - if You're Indian and planning to marry a friendly and well-hung African gentleman from the Ivory Coast in Poland neither of You will get Schengen visas, right to stay in Poland or Polish citizenship out of that deal.

Sorry.

Love / The Pole -- a mummy's boy? [7]

Poles? Mommy's boys?

Not even remotely close to Italians and some Jewish.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]

"do i sound like i care about Schengen and visas here?"

You sound like You don't know what You're talking about or what You want.

As was pointed out to You by some other posters - the assumption that You were/are planning to marry a Polish bloke was a very logical one, given the title of the thread, the phrasing of a question and so forth.

If You just want to hear some more horror stories what's it like for a poor non-white person in Poland or some generalizations ( hitman ) about it I'm pretty sure You could have asked more candidly ( different thread title perhaps ).

The other thread - in which many people were rather wary of You - was about You asking someone to bring a ( non-specified at first ) item of luggage with them through customs and to transport it by plane from Poland to India or vice versa ( don't remember ). If I recall correctly someone mentioned that the thread should perhaps be reported to some form of authorities, so don't be surprised that I wasn't over them moon with joy about it either.

Hitman - a while ago there was a post here about British stag parties in Cracow and me ( as well as a number of other people ) told the guys who were describing said parties as groups hell hounds from planet Neptune that they were really generalizing.

So, same goes for You - "pack of wolves?" Really? I have ample opportunity to observe the behaviour of youths in both U.K. and Poland and have yet to notice anything that would make the two groups very different.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Antek makes some very valid points.

There's a vast difference between Poland circa, shall we say, 1995 and Poland now.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]

Lodz the Boat is on my ignore list - can't see what he wrote and I'm not that really interested.

123 - Madam, as the old saying goes, if one person tells you that you have the ears of an ass, pay no attention. If two should tell you, go get yourself a saddle.

Your thread is slightly confusing to say the least - many have pointed that out.

If You want to get some legitimate, honest and precise answers ( which I, for one, was willing to provide ) You'd be wise to make it slightly less confusing, less about us guessing what Your situation is and a bit more specific. Otherwise You'll just get some outdated, straight out of the 1990's horror stories which likely will be largely irrelevant in Your particular case.

Law / Applying for Polish citizenship through marriage. [116]

The citizenship gets revoked and the offending foreigner is fed to the wild "Zubrs" of the Bialowieska Forest.

Humour aside, Poland has joined the EU in 2004 and has to play by the same rules as anybody else in the civilized world.

Your citizenship, regardless of the way You obtained it, stays with You.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Guys, this is turning into a pissing contest.

U.S. is a country that was built with a gun in hand. People who created U.S. firmly believed that the right to bear arms is sacred, many of them escaped their oppressive governments back in Europe with a clear idea that a citizen could/should fight back if the Government ever tried to take away his rights. And guns figure into all this really well - difficult to boss people around too much if each and every family has a shotgun in their home.

This is clearly visible in the way certain groups of Americans approach the "gun" issue and quite frankly isn't really much of a reason to claim our "superiority". Different thinking, that's all.

"Baseball bat" - Darius, I think Havok was talking about Poland ( baseball bats are not legal there, technically ).

Your government rules You like a bunch of peasants - uncalled for.

Funny thing is that even if you could buy guns in Poland, you wouldn't be able to afford to buy bullets on your crappy salaries. - see above. The guys I talked about in this thread don't seem to have any problems buying bullets. Or big houses. Or new BMW 6 series every 5 years or so.

Love / Expat marrying Polish - honest experiences [38]

Or she could be Pakistani hoping to marry a French citizen from Mauritius in Poland and live there happily ever after.

That's the point, she hasn't told us ****.

If she's a Polish girl looking to import her foreign boyfriend ( hopefully from a non-terror supporting country ) she can probably find throngs of Polish women who have done that and wouldn't have to ask here.

Hell, but what do I know, right?

Life / Uptight Poles [262]

Westerners are way more criminal oriented, the women way more slutty, the people way more unhappy & uptight.

yet, they blame it on Poles?

I don't understand Westerners LOL I think they are idiots for the most part.

PolskiMoc - weren't You banned a short while ago or something for posting pretty much the same nonsense as above?

"Criminal oriented" - Poles are often considered ( an ugly stereotype that unfortunately can be traced back to some criminal activity of the Polish shortly after the fall of the iron curtain ) thieves in Germany and Austria. Car thieves, to be more specific.

So here I am telling You what I told one German about 15 years ago after he made a general comment about all Polish people being criminals - "Shut Your hole, You sir don't know shit".

the women way more slutty - Of course. That's why frenchforums.com or italianforums.com is simply swamped by these ads from gentlemen originally from third-world countries that are offering Italian or French women a place to stay in the U.K. if they are "nice" to them. And that is also why no such ads can be found on polishforums.com.

people way more unhappy & uptight. - yes, especially Swedes, Norwegians and the Swiss. Damn, these are some uptight and unhappy bastards, the whole lot of them.

You are not adding anything to the topic with Your crude generalizations.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

for someone who doesnt know any black people and lives in a white city you do make a lot of sweeping negative statements, based on nothing.

you just take as gospel any negative story in the paper then?
This is like me saying that I know for a fact that most white people are football hooligans, must be true I read it in the paper..

I find your fake liberalism Lodz the boat quite offensive.
I suppose white people take on black culture becasue it is so prevalent in the music industry.

Madam, don't worry about him, I stopped reading his posts quite some time ago. Guy's got a penchant for writing about stuff he's not really well informed about.

Other than that, I don't get why every time "black culture" is mentioned there's a bunch people coming over and basically dumbing the discussion down to:

-- baggy pants,
-- hip hop music,
-- smoking weed,
-- bling bling and dubs,

then throwing the obligatory "gangsta/thug" stuff and reaching some odd conclusions ( see cheesymac above, black people bringing societies down? Really? ).

It is kind of as if someone decided to talk about "Jewish culture" and then went on rambling about the exploits of Dutch Schultz, Lepke Buchalter or Bugsy Siegel. Based on them, "Jewish culture" can indeed be broken down to illegal alcohol production, drug trafficking, racketeering and shooting anyone who bothers You in the face.

So maybe if we're to talk about "culture" we shouldn't be looking at streetwise toughs or "musicians" pretending to be them, but at writers, scholars, artists and such? Seems more reasonable.

Regarding the topic itself, there are some odd assumptions.

"attitudes" - and what exactly is a "black attitude"? Because I'm honestly lost here. And plz tell me what's a "white attitude" while You're at it.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

They are not pretending to be them, even if they are pretending they are taking actions into that direction; selling drugs, pimping, dumbing-down society as whole for themselves... funny thing is this is the majority of blacks, so it is there culture... the minority of blacks do not act in this manner

that is the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

And You came to all these conclusions in Katowice, Poland, which is, as we both know, simply overrun with black people?

Honestly, what You posted is simply biased and offensive.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

Hip Hop music is clearly what the thread is about and mentioning it doesn't dumb down the discussion.

It is not about "mentioning it". It is about taking the whole "black culture" and saying it equals just the worst aspects of some of the "hip hop culture".

As said, it is downright offensive.

Nobody summarizes "Italian culture" by saying - "Don Corleone", "Mafia", "Law of Omerta", bang-bang, You're dead. On the contrary, people talk about the Reneissance, Michelangelo and so forth.

I could check statistics on the internet regarding blacks/ afro-american...
they influence in the wrong way

Where? In Poland? Hardly.

And crime, in my humble opinion, has a lot more to do with poverty than it does with race.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

cheesymac - You are making so many generalizations ( some of them can be seen as racist ) it isn't even funny.

1) First of all, there is a lot of people, on this very forum, that have "seen both cultures", also in the States.

None of them came up with a third of derogatory remarks You did.

2) Drugs....

Taking drugs has nothing to do with black culture. If I show You a Sikh that sticking needles in his veins will that also be an influence of "black culture"?

3) Drug dealers come in all shapes, sizes and colors. Polish, Russian, African American, Sikh, Pakistani, Japanese, Chinese, Indian - You name it.

4) Prague doesn't lie in "Western Europe".

5) their current situation, on a general scale, is blamed on the white man, - and never has an Indian blamed "the white man" for his problems?

I've heard some downright nasty stuff about English people from Indians. So again - nothing to do with being black.

6) also not having a dad raising you and your mother being mad and a drug addict... with multiple kids receiving child support and/or welfare so she doesn't have to work... - and of course taking drugs, having multiple kids, living on welfare/child support - all these things are part of "black culture"?

Honestly, after reading Your 2 or 3 last posts I can't help but to come to a conclusion that You have a serious problem with people of African descent.

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

I was really not surprised to find out you are from India,,,your people hating Afro Caribbeans is a major source of racial friction and trouble in my city.

For reasons I will not discuss here ( would be a major off-topic discussion ) I wasn't really surprised either.

had a friend whose father got caught with 47 kilos on wire taps...he is currently spending time in prison... his son, my acquaintance/ friend (amandeep singh dhami) is on fbi's most wanted for murdering someone at a Sikh Temple...

I see...

You being homies with major pushers and killers from FBI's most wanted = hell ok, nothing wrong with that, every hard working Indian's got the right to have friends, right?

Some African American halfwit from Oakland making a mix-tape about how he sold 20 dime bags of mary jane = black culture rearing its ugly head again.

Can we make some assumptions about "Sikh culture" now based on the fact that You're good buddies with a guy who not only sings/raps about shooting people but actually does it in real life?

but they owned a truck stop, DTP trucking...

Again...

Selling dope when one is dirt poor and African American = black culture

Shooting people just for shits and giggles when one is well off = not a part of culture?

I have black friends myself since the age of 5...

I have friends currently that are black

Great, have You shared some of Your theories with them? Especially the one about "black attitude" ( whatever that is ) or "black people bringing down societies"?

would agree with my arguments and my points of view because they understand the epidemic that is upon there people and would they not be racist to blame anyone but themselves..

Ok, so You say You have.

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that any decent African American would listen to Your ramblings for more than two minutes. Pointing out the problem is one thing, stereotyping and crude generalizations are another.

But, let's have a little experiment then. Next time You're back in Cali please visit Stanford University or UCLA, hit up the law school and present Your theories to the members of Black Law Students Association.

Here, I'll give You a link:

nblsa.org

If You manage to tell them half the crap ( not changing the form or the wording of the sentences You used ) You just told Us without getting hit with a defamation/libel lawsuit shortly after I will personally apply a cheese grater to my balls as a way of saying "Sorry for being an idiot, boss."

Hell, maybe I'll just send them this link and we'll see what they have to say.

but there are large portions of American cities that are predominately black... infested with crack dealers, drugs, prostituting... welfare...etc, etc

Just as, You admitted Yourself, there are large portions of Indian cities that never had a black occupant that are also infested with dealers, drugs and prostitution ( don't know whether You have welfare in India ).

Again - poverty, not culture.

because they do not like to work... - libel.

if it wasn't a huge problem... I would not talk about it... - or perhaps You would because You simply don't like them and happen to be a racist?

Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

You can assume that I can not defend myself to blacks at Stanford and UCLA.

I fail to see a throng of black Stanford law school students ( or other postgrads ) being physically or even verbally aggressive towards You.

I can not get sued in America for speaking my mind... it is protected by the constitution.

For a supposedly educated fellow You do make a lot of odd assumptions.

Please get acquainted with the terms "libel" and "defamation". If through "speaking Your mind" You cross their boundaries - You're in for a lawsuit and quite frankly You're worse off dealing with such a lawsuit in the States than You are in Poland ( huge difference in monetary damages awarded ).

Drugs, drugs, drugs

Since we already established that drugs and drug trafficking flourish in areas where no people of African descent are present I fail to see the need to discuss drug related issues while we are talking about "black culture". We all know drugs are bad, no need to go over it for the umpteenth time.

Unless You want to go back to the idea that drugs, trafficking them and so forth are a part of "black culture"...

black people are subjugated to this lifestyle through the ideals of bling, through the ideals of money, through the ideals of getting woman, through the ideals of a quick-buck and not the long haul in getting money through getting an education...

As are British chavs ( usually white ).

And the "dresy" in Poland ( have yet to see a black one ).

And the boys pretending to be Mafia shown in the movie Gomorrah ( all Italians from Naples ).

Again - nothing to do with race, all to do with poverty.

but the ones with the most authority for a long period of time are the drug dealers... even 'til this day in black communities it is the drug dealers... that will drive the communities children to follow suit...

Again a broad generalization and an unfounded one at that. Drug dealers aren't running all African American neighbourhoods, there are other authority figures than drug dealers for the children to look up to there, what You are saying is highly racist. And You probably missed the last U.S. Presidential elections.

i do not think you are enlightened upon the subject as i..

As I said, Your kind of enlightenment would equal at least a few thousand dollars in damages in most courts of law. You're simply a racist.

the blacks will either be racists towards the whites

Some will, others won't.

I deny the right the act accept racism... I battle racism by exploiting racist ideals.

Here's a few of Your quotes from this topic:

"why can not black people bring a taste into a country without bringing it down, or do they only appeal to low-class, better yet, uneducated people"

"they bring society down and do not change for the better"

"selling drugs, pimping, dumbing-down society as whole for themselves... funny thing is this is the majority of blacks, so it is there culture... the minority of blacks do not act in this manner

that is the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"

"the number of great blacks is heavily out-numbered by bad..."

"whilst black people's culture is a trap..."

The list could be longer, but there's no point.

You are a racist and You can deny all You want, it doesn't change a thing.

And I myself don't want to make any broad generalizations, but I've encountered Indian/Pakistani racists in the past and the "I'm not a racist but <insert litany of curses, generalizations and downright offensive things about a given other race>" is so common with them it is not even funny. But even after spewing out racial hate for 15 minutes they still in their own minds consider themselves the most open minded people in the world. Dumbfounding.

and he is wrong for saying he is black... he should say the obvious that he is half white half black...

He (and any other biracial person or a person of mixed descent ) has the right to identify themselves with any or all of their respective cultures. It is their choice and their right and simply not Your cup of coffee.

Love / Do Polish men like to sleep with other men? [79]

Are you going around putting your ear to the door of every flat in town....?

Nah, she probably lives in the poor part of town, next door to a bedsit that the landlord rents out to 6 polish plumbers/construction workers. They drink vodka well into the night then get up at 5 to get to the site and she thinks they're playing anal astronauts.

I think a lot of gay polish men have come to ruin the u.k.

Someone's being highly homophopic.

All things considered, I don't think I want to know what the threadstarter's mind comes up with on the more "kinky" days if that whole "tight trousers" / "bend over when you see another male" is standard issue stuff :-)

Love / Goal: Meet a nice Polish girl! [62]

I mean, how does this work. You go to Warsaw, walk around not being able to communicate, find some random Polish girl, convince her to come back to the USA with you....forever.....and marry her?

How long do you plan on being in Warsaw? You have a job, can't be gone from that too long.

When you meet this girl, I'm assuming you need to tell her right away, "I'm looking for a wife to take back to America with me." I mean, how friggin' creepy is that? Yeah, that should land you a real winner.

It worked exactly like this before the iron curtain came down and well into the 1990's --> come over, speak English, tell everyone You're American/English, show off a little ( I do mean little back in the day ) $$. Then all one had to worry about was avoiding being crushed or smothered to death by Polish girls that were basically all over You, jumping up and down and competing for Your attention. Single, boyfriend, fiancee, married, 20, 30, 40 - made no difference, there were basically throngs of women wanting to get out of Poland and considering a "Westerner" their life's goal and meal ticket.

Ask me how I know :-)

Same thing all over the former Eastern Block, to be fair.

If I were to look for a comparison now... I guess Cuba would be a good place to name. If You come over and happen to have an EU passport ( Americans can't visit Cuban resorts if I understand correctly ) there will be women basically throwing themselves at You to have a reason to leave Fidel's blessed paradise.

Regarding Your questions --> my advice is go for it. Sure, 1989 was 20 years ago and things have somewhat improved in Poland ( Polish people no longer make 10 bucks a month ), so it is unlikely You'll have a group of 20-something local hotties running after You all the time and begging for Your attention.

But some of the stuff I wrote about still applies. A lot of Polish women still get a bad case of weak knees the moment they hear English and a lot of them still consider getting married with a foreigner their life's crowning achievement. So, if You play Your cards rights Your chances of scoring with a hot broad are probably 20 times better in Warsaw than they are wherever You are at in the States right now.

I am so sick of American women with their lies and infidelity!

Polish women don't have a particularly great reputation in that area.

Some of my acquaitances from the 1980's and early 1990's that "imported" a Polish wife found out about it the hard way.

Just saying.

I'm in the process of learning the language.

No need for it apart from a "Jak sie masz" and a few other basics. Trust me, the girls You're targeting will be more than thrilled to learn English for You.

Shouldn't be too difficult, right?

Shouldn't be.

Best of luck.

Love / Goal: Meet a nice Polish girl! [62]

I'll have to disagree.

1) Yup, Warsaw girls too. Not as common as 20 years ago, still not that difficult to find.

2) Only because hot women are 20 times more common here than in the USA.

Can't say I agree. Perhaps there was a case to be made about women in the Eastern Block being slimmer ( not prettier ) in the 1970 or 1980 when Polish women did not stuff themselves with fast foods and other stuff that's full of chemicals.

Now things have pretty much evened out. I see the same amount of fat asses in Warsaw, London and NY.

Love / Goal: Meet a nice Polish girl! [62]

Lol, aren't you with an English dude? Not a Polish "bloke"?

My guess is she wrote that because she's not happy with the "competition" --> other Polish ladies coming over, looking for an English gent.

She feels threatened by it.

Justysia - guys visit Poland, former Eastern Bloc and Russia for fishing trips, because they still find women there easier to impress than their local beauties.

Cold hard facts.

Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

A Polish girl screwing her boyo for money or exploiting him to get more? Calling attorneys behind his back?

Impossible, that would really be a first.

No sir, You're just paranoid, Polish women are nothing like that they're too proud/independent/strong/insert some other crap to do that.

Now, since I'm done with the sarcasm:

1) Polish family courts are amongst the most biased in Europe. 9/10 judges there are female and the rulings unfortunately reflect that.

For example, when deciding upon the amount of alimony, Polish courts will routinely ignore any and all documents proving how much a guy earns.

They will, however, base their decision upon on how much they think a man in that profession working where a guy works can earn.

Yup, You heard correctly, in Your case You'll have a Polish judge, a crusty old lady raised in the communist times, decide how much a "self-employed energy broker" can earn in London then using it as a basis for Your alimony payments.

Not funny at all.

2) The bias mentioned above applies to all aspects of family law: custody, common residence, etc. Frankly speaking, Poland is probably the worst country to get divorced in in Europe for a guy.

3) I am from outside the EU currently a resident of UK if i go to Poland I will apply for Polishresidency my wife said ok if we move we can live seperately and we can remain married on paper to allow me to apply for the residency because we have a 3 year old daughter.

Have You perhaps thought about how weak will that move to Poland make Your position when compared to Your wife's?

You might have a bit of a problem fighting a nasty divorce case if You're being deported to Africa at the same time.

Just saying.

4) My fear is that once we are in Poland that my wife could turn around and screw me by exploiting me to pay massive amounts of child support and demand more things because if i dont she will file for divorce and then i will lose my daughter because i wll have to leave Poland.

Oh yes, You've thought about it.

Your fears are justified.

5)and this morning she has been on the phone etc to loads of solicitors saying she wants this amount of money and this and that.. this was merely because i said im thinking going to Poland with her given our situation is not the best thing for me.. I dont speak Polish and dont know anyone there.

She sounds like a real charmer, that Polish wife of Yours.

My advice is to stand Your ground, don't move to Poland and fight the divorce case in Britain. This way You'll have a better chance for a good ruling and won't have to worry about being deported.

6) So what are my rights as a foreigner married to a polish national and we have a kid, if we get to poland and she decides she wants to screw me, will i be able to stay in Poland to be with my daughter?

You'd have to ask a good family/immigration lawyer about that, but here's the kicker.

Deportation procedure can be ( not that it always is ) fast, strict and harsh.

Establishing Your right of residence based on the fact that You fathered a child with a Polish woman ( Poland could easily get probably 20 million residents based on that ) may be:

a) impossible ( ask a family/immigration lawyer in Poland )

b) tricky

c) time consuming

d) a very long process.

If I were to bet I'd say You'll get deported way before an appropriate organ in Poland grants You said right of residence. Especially if Your wife writes every institution possible about what kind of an animal You are and how You beat her and the child with a tire iron.

Anyways, best of luck, You'll need it.

Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

1) Harry, I'm not qualified to speak on what grants one the right to reside in Poland. I have a ( albeit a bit dusty ) Polish passport, thus I never had to solve any such conundrums myself.

You are indeed correct that it seems very logical that a guy who is a father of a Polish child and is employed / has company ownership in Poland should get residency.

However:

a) I've seen more than my fair share of absurd/corrupt court/administrative decisions during my time in Poland.

b) Based on having fathered a child with a Polish woman and having filed company registration papers with the local registry You could have probably 100.000 Nigerians applying for a Polish residency tomorrow.

Sooner or later someone in Poland will take notice.

2) Which swings both ways:

Everything I've been told by Polish men seems to point towards one conclusion --> Polish family courts usually swing only one way. Not in favour of the father.

3) Sadly the child support case would be held in Poland if the mother lived there.

there is nothing stopping her from taking the kid to Poland and filing for divorce while you are not there

Hardly. There's a little something called a Strasbourg convention ( or some other name, family law isn't my strong suit ). Basically it allows the person whose partner took off and left their country of mutually agreed upon residence with their child to sue said partner in that very country. That reduces the involvement of the organs of the country to which that person fled to excecuting an order issued by a foreign court.

So she wouldn't be able to sue anyone for child support in Poland effectively, because after he files it in London the Polish police will be obliged to put the kid on a plane back to Blighty.

Rather handy and not really liked by Polish women too much. Kurt, check up on that convention and have a London family lawyer fill You in on the details.

4)

Harry i want to support my daughter.. but as you know i have my own business, my wife said something to me in passing, the law in poland works, if we are divorce i will have to pay child support which is standard but also lets say if i rent a flat in kazimierz for example i will also need to make sure that my ex-wife and my daughter will live in the same standards.. do u know anything about that? so what i have to pay child support and pay her rent?

The questions You ask Kurt begin requiring some expertise in Polish family law. So if we start to get deeper into that stuff I'm afraid I'll have to start invoicing You.

Just kidding :-)

You are indeed correct that there's a number of provisions in Polish family law that grant a divorced spouse and the kids some rights of that kind.

Look up article 60 of the Polish family code, it contains at least two ways for a divorced spouse to get on-top-of-the-child-alimony payments from her ex-hubby ( depnds on circumstances of a given case ).

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some extra provision in the custody over the children / alimony to children part which would pertain to having the kid live in a prior-to-divorce standards, which of course would open the floodgates for all sorts of claims from wifey.

5) so if i have offended any Polish woman i do apologize its not my intention.

There's hardly any need for apologies mate, especially when in Your case it seems rather clear that Your wife is trying to bend You over the table and stick one up the poop chute, metaphorically speaking.

6) Based on all of what You wrote Your fears are justified. And calls to atty's the moment You say something she doesn't take well is...well, just low. And fits a certain stereotype about Eastern European women rather nicely.

If I were in Your shoes I'd not move to Poland, period.

his same polish wife has not worked since we have been married and we live in a 4 bedroo house and i pay all the bills and food etc. but for her its still not enough..

Oh, yeah, missed that part. Is Your wife really trying to live up to the stereotype?

Because it surely sounds like it.

Too good for a 4 bedroom house and bills?

Ditch the *****, that's what I'd do.