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Posts by Chicago Pollock  

Joined: 10 Apr 2010 / Male ♂
Last Post: 11 Oct 2011
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From: USofA, Chicago
Speaks Polish?: Noski
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Chicago Pollock   
25 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Share them then, rather than obfuscating. I put my proposition forward re Teheran and you've given no tangible response, except to intemperately say that Poland collapsed after '39 and made no further contribution to the fight, which is an insult to the memory of those Poles who perished under allied colours.

The Western Powers didn't back stab Poland. They weren't going to take on Russia over Poland. Your military and political leadership capitulated in the '39 invasion. They had to? How else could they be surprised and unprepared?

If they (Allies) would have taken on the Russians in '45 what would the Poles have done? Huh? About 10 million were dead, a bunch more in gulags, Country was flattened. You're being unreasonable. Poland left itself wide open in WWII.
Chicago Pollock   
25 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

Appeasement and 'amicable' relations between SU and GB were forged at Poland's expense. It's really that simple.

England was disappointed that "Poland fell silent" after '39 invasion. People were counting on you guys. Were's the fight? Didn't Putin allude to that point earlier this year? Who really back stabbed Poland? I have some theories. Good title for another thread.
Chicago Pollock   
25 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

In all seriousness though, what do you think about what I said regarding Teheran? Surely you've come across the implications of this conference in your readings? Do you reckon HMG should have told Poland?

England isn't responsible for Tehran. Nobody wanted to extend WWII and take on the Russians over Poland. England and the US are democracies and wars cannot be extended indefinitely. The English 8th Army almost mutinied in 1943 over the invasion of Normandy they were that sick of War.

How is it that Poland defeated the Bolsheviks in 1920 and twenty years later lose to the Germans in 6 weeks with a million man army? POLAND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR POLAND.
Chicago Pollock   
25 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

wtf are you on? that is not the origination of pollock jokes at all.. sheesh some people.

I know where they come from, I was there. Polish jokes don't come from Americans, they come from American born Poles who used to joke about the ignorance (before you flame me look up the definition of ignorance) of DP's (for Displace persons, from WWII). We started 'em.

As for WWII. FRANCE AND BRITAIN LOST AN ENTIRE GENERATION IN WWI. They were in no condition in 1939 to militarily challenge Germany (remember Dunkirk?). You weren't back stabbed.

Hitler was ranting for 10 years before 1939. How could Poland military be unprepared for 1939 invasion???? Or surprised as they claim. If Poland was back stabbed it was by your political or military leadership. No one else.
Chicago Pollock   
25 Apr 2010
History / The Polish Blame Culture! [330]

In the states there is a big division between Poles who are native born and those born in Poland. That's why there are Polish jokes. Native born poles (Pollacks) poking fun at Polish born Poles. Frd is correct.
Chicago Pollock   
22 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Originally the National Guard and US Coast Guard were volunteer. No pay. It's what is called good citizenship. Poland should start demanding more of its citizens. You're building a nation.
Chicago Pollock   
22 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

The performance of the Polish army in any future conflict will depend on one thing only.
To what extent they are betrayed.

If you believe this than there is no hope.

Avoid alliances with other countries and look to yourselves. Instead of fielding a professional army, construct Reserve National Guard Units in every province and county. Put most if not all 18-26 yr. olds under arms (rifles will do). Train the troops for the day if and when you are invaded by a foreign power. Supply your troops with small arms designed and constructed in Poland (rifles are easy to manufacture). Make most of your National Guard Engineering Units so that they can act in National Emergencies and also slowly rebuild your infrastructure. Engage the lowest elements of your society. Pull together.
Chicago Pollock   
21 Apr 2010
Love / Are Polish Women cold and aloof? [249]

"lol. Maybe that's why I don't know any Polish family in foreclosure. Yet"

I never said it didn't have its advantageous. Go figure.
Chicago Pollock   
21 Apr 2010
UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]

Ariens, i don't know what the situation is like in the EU but in the states when you can't get work you "hang your own shingle". It sounds like you're a contract worker but do you have your own contracting business? The reason I ask is because when I got fed up I opened my own business. I'm not getting rich but I'm working steady. You may be able to do same in EU. Just a thought.
Chicago Pollock   
21 Apr 2010
Love / Are Polish Women cold and aloof? [249]

One thing that is true for Poles is that they have those calculating minds. Figure, figure, figure.
Chicago Pollock   
21 Apr 2010
USA, Canada / Do Poles feel America is going down the drain? [149]

Polonius didn't you live in both USA & Poland? You've seen both sides, you should tell us your opinion. What do you think of Poland & USA?
Chicago Pollock   
20 Apr 2010
History / The great mistakes of Poland's history? [216]

The Past is the past, modern day Poland can't change it. Now that you have your country how do you plan to hold it?????????
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
Love / Do most Polish women just want a friend or a bf? [13]

Try getting to know women as friends. You can start by getting to know the bicycle lady. Give her the benefit of a doubt. She may not be what you think she is.
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

"And nobody else did? ;)"

That's a broad question, you can write a book on every individual country's response to WWII. Poland has sustained too many slaughters in it's history. They need to learn how to avoid 'em. First thing you have to do is define the problem, once you do that the solution becomes a lot clearer.

"Poles don't trust Poles". Is a good start and how do you build trust? Give the lowliest peasant a rifle and tell him he's responsible if Poland gets invaded.

"gorliwość", is everything. That's what a pro army doesn't have.
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Swedes and Spanish had fascist leadership. Quisling and Franco. Switzerland was a democracy and publicly opposed Germany. What was Poland, a democracy? In any event they opposed Hitler. If you're going to publicly oppose the guy you have to be prepared to fight.
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Switzerland avoided two world wars because they didn't lay down and say "gee, which boxcar is for me", or "we're going to which gulag?" No they threatened to fight back.
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

"The infrastructure in Poland is terrible, there just isn't any way to get around that. Parts are getting better (IC rail travel, highways), parts seem to be getting worse (B roads, city roads)."

That's one way to get an infrastructure, develop your National Guard as engineering units. Have them start rebuilding your roads.
Chicago Pollock   
19 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

See this map of WWII Europe:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1941-1942_map_en.png

There's a big hole in the middle of the Axis Powers. It was Switzerland. Strategically that hole wasn't in the interests of the Axis Powers.

German agreements with Switzerland were a face saving smokescreen.
Chicago Pollock   
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

If it weren't for Swiss rifles, Switzerland would have become another Austria.

Germany would have sustained heavy casualties with Swiss invasion.

Historical fact, the Swiss stood up the German war machine and Germany tried to save face with those agreements.
Chicago Pollock   
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Hmmm, you must have overlooked this:

II
Switzerland was surrounded by territory controlled by the Axis Powers from 1940 to 1944.

At the outbreak of World War II in 1939, Switzerland immediately began to mobilize for a possible invasion. The entire country was fully mobilized in only three days. The Swiss government began to fortify positions throughout the country. The total strength of the army and militias grew to over 500,000.

In the course of the war, detailed invasion plans were drawn up by the German military command,[7] such as Operation Tannenbaum, but Switzerland was never attacked. Switzerland was able to remain independent through a combination of economic concessions to Germany, military deterrence and good fortune as larger events during the war delayed an invasion. Attempts by Switzerland's small Nazi party to effect an Anschluss with Germany failed miserably, largely as a result of Switzerland's multicultural heritage, strong sense of national identity, and long tradition of direct democracy and civil liberties. The Swiss press vigorously criticized the Third Reich, often infuriating its leadership. Under General Henri Guisan, a massive mobilization of militia forces was ordered. The Swiss military strategy was changed from one of static defense at the borders, to a strategy of organized long-term attrition and withdrawal to strong, well-stockpiled positions high in the Alps known as the Réduit. This controversial strategy was essentially one of deterrence. The idea was to make clear to the Third Reich that the cost of an invasion would be very high. During an invasion, the Swiss Army would cede control of the economic heartland and population centers, but retain control of crucial rail links and passes in the Réduit. Switzerland was an important base for espionage by both sides in the conflict and often mediated communications between the Axis and Allied powers by serving as a protecting power. Despite public and political pressure some higher ranking officers within the Swiss Army were sympathetic towards the Nazis, notably Colonel Arthur Fonjallaz and Colonel Eugen Bircher, who led the Schweizerischer Vaterländischer Verband.

Portrait of Henri Guisan on a commemorative coin

Nazi Germany repeatedly violated Swiss airspace. During the Invasion of France, German aircraft violated Swiss airspace no fewer than 197 times.[8] In several air incidents, the Swiss (using 10 Bf-109 D, 80 Bf-109 E fighters bought from Germany and some Morane-Saulnier M.S.406s built under license in Switzerland), shot down 11 Luftwaffe planes between 10 May 1940 and 17 June 1940.[8] Germany protested diplomatically on 5 June 1940, and with a second note on 19 June 1940 which contained clear threats. Hitler was especially furious when he saw that German equipment was shooting down German pilots. He said they would respond "in another manner".[8] On 20 June 1940, the Swiss air force was ordered to stop intercepting planes violating Swiss airspace. Swiss fighters began to instead force intruding aircraft to land at Swiss airfields. Anti-aircraft units still operated. Later, Hitler unsuccessfully sent saboteurs to destroy airfields.[9]
Chicago Pollock   
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Bratwurst Boy, Germany had plans to invade Switzerland but Hitler was dissuaded when the Swiss made no bones about resisting Nazi war machine. They (the Swiss) took about about a dozen German fighter craft right quick. Germany could have taken major Swiss cities but countyside would have remained Swiss (due to reserve army) Ageements you speak of occurred later.

Convex, that explains Polish Partition And why Poles don't defend themselves...Poles don't trust Poles. That's why i wouldn't live there. They've had a bloody history, ripe for the picking.
Chicago Pollock   
18 Apr 2010
News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [385]

Why didn't Germany invade Switzerland in World War II?

Every able bodied man in Switzerland is in the reserve military, has a rifle and is trained to use it.

This is what Poland needs to do. Every able bodied man needs to have a rifle and be trained to use it. Citizen armies are much better than professional armies in a democracy. Poland can't depend on NATO or the United States. If Poland would have done this 200 years ago there wouldn't have been any partition. You're 200 years late, but it's not too late.
Chicago Pollock   
18 Apr 2010
UK, Ireland / Polish opinion of England as a country and the English nation [64]

I think you'll find you'll sporting a blackeye and sleeping the spare room for a week if your wife reads that post - we have quite fiery tempers too!

Of course she doesn't read these posts.

Fiery temper? More like a frickin volcanoe. I've seen it twice, don't plan to see it again. She says jump I say... how do you want your tea, dear? (every evening). I'm well trained.
Chicago Pollock   
17 Apr 2010
UK, Ireland / Polish opinion of England as a country and the English nation [64]

I've dated a few English women and finally married one. I've found 'em to be good natured and they laugh easily (they're a lot of fun). Though not the best looking in Europe they make up for it with big boobies and they age well.
Chicago Pollock   
17 Apr 2010
Polonia / Poles in Norway? Polish community in Oslo. [43]

I'm an native English speaker and I've been told that the Scandinavian languages are the closest related to English and are therefore the easiest foreign language for an English speaker to learn. Which Scandinavian language would be the most practical to learn, Danish, Swedish or Norwegian???