Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]

Cholera is often strengthened and sounds like Cholera jasna! or even Psiakrew! Cholera jasna!. It was a very common old exclamation of anger, irritation, disappointment, shock.

It originated from a bad wish to inlocutor: Niech cię [jasna|cięzka] cholera weźmie! what was meant to mean:Let cholera kills you!. Very nice wish, isn't it?

Now it is considered not strong enough and is replaced by heavier words.

History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]


How many centuries, Nathan?
Your national Ukrainian identity started in last decade of XVIII century and wasn't even completed as WW2 ended. With your anachronistic concepts of eternal Ukraine you never understand the past: Ukrainian past, Polish past and these part of the past which was common to both nations.


They were both the same - had completely NO scruples, but Stalin was mentally healthier, beheld further in future. Anyway they are both boiling in the same tar kettle in the Hell, I hope!

Genealogy / Searching for grandfathers relatives-Wilcensky or Wilczewsky [6]


Try with census records also. Some of them are available on-line.

History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]


Poles and Ukrainians lived in one country for 500 hundreds years. They were neighbours in thousands of villages and cities. So they local idioms were convergent. Any educated person in the Commonwealth knew Polish (maybe with exception of some Germans) so many Ruthenians knew it. And all Poles who have some interest in communicating with Ruthenians knew Ruthenian as well. There were also many Polish speaking (especially Masovian) settlers deep in Ruthenia. So there were so many lines of bilateral linguistic contacts, that both languages have many borrowings from each other.

Poles from Podolia spoke dialect which used to incorporate many loan words and linguistic phenomena from Ruthenian. And the same with Ruthenian dialects of Podolia. However it was clearly visible (or better say audible) which dialect was spoken by your local interlocutor.

However literary languages Polish and Ukrainian tend to omit some evident features borrowed from neighbours - but fortunately not effectively enough.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]


Maybe it was Zbyczyński - moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/zbyczyński.html, which are now present in Southern Varmia.

History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]


Official language of the Crown (Kingdom of Poland) was Latin, while in Grand Duchy of Lithuania - Old White Ruthenian sometimes called ruski or even litewski. In fact administration language in Lithuania was changed to Polish in XVII ie. earlier than in the Crown. However Polish language was used extensively even earlier but acts and records were written in Latin. Royal Prussia and Courland were using German and Latin, small principalities of Oswiecim and Zator recorded in Czech until 1560. Until 1590 there were also the Tribunal in £uck in Volhynia, which used Ruthenian.

Later in XVIII usage of Polish was getting more universal. Even Uniate Church was using Polish in administration while Old Church Slavonic in liturgy.

Genealogy / Bolak: My father was born in Lwow in 1914 - How can I trace his genealogy line? [3]

If your ancestor was a Roman Catholic, many parish records were saved and are in Warsaw in National Archives.
The most important is what was a parish of your great-grandparents. If you have any Church certificate (birth, marriage, death) - there must be a parish name on it.

If not try to google it or give the family name here and I try with google tricks.

Genealogy / Szewczyk from Wara, Poland [6]


Spellings: Jakub Szewczyk, Anna Zofia Kocyło, Józef Kocyło, Sally Milczanowska.

Try to find out something more in parish:
Dydnia, św. Michała Archanioła i św. Anny
Dydnia 145, 36-204 DYDNIA
tel. +48 13 430 35 70

Dydnia in Brzozów county in Subcarpathian voivodship
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dydnia

Dydnia parish covered also villages of: Jabłonica Ruska, Jabłonka, Krzywe, Końskie, Krzemienna, Obarzym, Temeszów, Witryłów i Wydrna.

Genealogy / THE MEANING AND RESEARCH OF MY POLISH LAST NAME, SURNAME? [4501]


There are 1681 bearers of the last name Data: moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/data.html

Quite a lot of them are from Rzeszów and Brzozów county and Stara Wieś is in Brzozów County in Poland.

You can try asking an entrepreneur of your last name making business in Stara Wieś:

"Chriscom" Firma Handlowo-Usługowa Krzysztof Data
Stara Wieś, ul. 554, tel. 13 4340882

Good luck and do trust in google a little ;-)

History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]


Very well and prudently said.
May I add it to my book of golden maxims?

History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]


You're so funny Seanus with your russophile bias.
There were majority of Georgians in Abkhazia before 1989. Abkhazians were minority but granted by Soviets with over-representation in local authorities. Now almost all Georgians from Abkhazia are expelled and live in temporary camps in central Georgia, while most of Abkhazia is deserted. Almost all Abkhazians have Russian passports and South Ossetians as well.

South Ossetia is FSB-ruled mafia state similar to Transnistria with smuggling as main industry.
Invented to destabilize Georgia and to eliminate its prospects for NATO membership.

History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]


No, Seanus. There was one political nation of Poles-Lithuanians. They were fighting together against Muscovites in November and January Uprisings. Even the greatest early Lithuanian poet Baranauskas knew perfectly Polish and his greatest poem Anyksciu forest was a response to Mickiewicz's Pan Tadeusz. He also undersigned with his Polish version of the last name - Baranowski. And your guide in Wilno was just telling about their citizenship and loyalty to the state where they live, not about their ethnicity. You as a Scotsman with a Celtic nick should understand this small difference.

History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]


What a ********. In Kosovo Serbians were just outperformed in the field of fertility and 'affection' to their heimat. The process lasted a few centuries, supported of course by barbarian Osman methods but only supported not made. And Italians added something to this misfortunate effects during WW2.

While in Abkhazia, was quite the opposite. There was centuries-long integration process between different regions of Sakartvelo. And in effect there were majority of Georgians there.

They were expelled during the civil wars in 1989 and lost in 1991/3 by the poet-president Zviad Gamsakhurdia.

You can compare it to the abstract situation when Russians supported Serbians to expel all Albanian speaking Kosovars from Kosovo in 1-3 years.

And if we're talking about Kosovo, I'm against de jure independency of this region. It should be administered under auspices of an international body or even one country (not Russia - of course, and not Albania or Turkey as well) - maybe Canada?

History / Piłsudski, like Hitler and Stalin (according to some Lithuanians) [144]


Everybody sell weapon to everybody. And it's better situation to know all strengths and weaknesses of your enemy's weapon. And what is better known than own production well tested on your firing range by your best soldiers.

Soviet soldiers in 1939 - were generally reported as dirty. But now, I suppose they have enough soap ;-)

However, if we look at current Russian external politics, we just must beware and not forget that there is no free media there to uncover mystifications and ignore redherrings.

Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]


Very corrupted indeed.
Sok-ra-men-ski = SAKRAMENCKI wordformed from SAKRAMENT = a sacrament, but shifted in meaning to the opposite i.e. devilish, disreputable, damned.

But what the hell, Hoo-ba-sa-ki means, I have no idea.