News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

A few banks already said they are moving their ppl to Europe.
Companies are in UK because it's beneficial to them so if UK economy won't be as tempting as EU what do you think they will do? Why City was so much into EU? Because they know they may lose a lot. Why did the mayor of London want more independence?

I'm not saying that UK doesn't have bargain chips but it's not like it's all up to them and EU has to go with it.

And to answer what is so preferential about mutual deal- I agree but EU already said for them movement of ppl is part of the deal.

A lot depends on what UK will want to have. There are few scenarios with different kind of involvement. They have different benefits/responsibilities. I really do think EEA is the most probable outcome. But thinking they will get single market of capital and tarifs without free movement of labour is unrealistic.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

I'm not advocating punitive measures but I also don't understand why UK should get preferential treatment. Simple as that. And it's not as simple as import/export.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]


Sorry but even if true (and I don't agree) what it has to do with anything? Polish ppl are not side to the negotiation. It will be decided by EU politicians.


True but again it seems to me like quite a lot of public and many politicians want it to be 'access to single market without giving anything in return'. And I think they will be very disappointed. Like many politicians thought they will be able to negotiate before trigging art. 50. Didn't happen either.


Great but what about all the other countries?

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Did you read recent trust for politician poll? Petru was second most trusted politician (right after Duda).

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

True it's better to keep UK as a friend however I don't think it should be done absolutely on UK terms. You can't say you leave and then expect that you will get everything you want without giving anything in return. That was a big mislead on the leave campaign saying that EU will accept us in single market and everything will be ok without saying that it's actually in the EU hands to decide. How long did France block UK membership? Is UK convinced that no one will do it again with UK joining single market?

There are simple rules:
You don't have any ties with EU and you pay 10% on your transactions
You have some ties with EU and you have some obligations (like freedom of movement).
No one forces UK to become an EEA country. They can choose not to join. However as always in life every choice has it's consequences.


I wouldn't bet on it. Every single country can veto you. Are you sure no one will? And few officials already said that even though they want UK to be close with EU the freedom of movement is not negotiable if UK wants single market.

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

Even if all this points are valid it doesn't change the fact why you think UK should get access to single market 'just because'. The single market was created as an advantage for the EU members not a 'God given right'. Even if one may have it's misgivings about EU it's hard to justify the position of 'we don't want to be a member, we don't like what you do oh but yes, we do like your single market so we want that. It's an approach of eat the cookie and have the cookie. And I don't see why EU should be a bad guy if they say ''no, sorry, it doesn't work that way'

News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

EU is a club with it's own rules. UK wanted out and can go out. But they want out only on the things they don't like and keep all the good things. Understandable but why do you think EU should agree to that Mafketis?

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

You did split. You were a couple and then you stopped being a couple. It might have happened early in the pregnancy but that's still splitting.

You say she's doing all this for money. Why didn't she choose a wealthier guy? You said yourself she knew your financial situation.

Anyway-all that is not important. What's important is that you know what you can do and you have to choose what you want to do. There is no way in which I can help you (and I doubt anyone else here can).

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

I've said already that she sounds like a bit** but no, she didn't 'trick' you into having a kid. You agreed to it. One of the risks involved is that one day you may split. Marriages get divorced...

I'm sorry to say it but when you decide to have a baby you have to take few things into consideration. Like what happens when you split up/divorce, what if your partner dies... It's not easy but that's how it is.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

You can't expect me not to post if you post on a discussing forum.
Unless you go through court you have no way of judging the system. What someone told you (and I doubt it was really a lawyer, more like someone else on some kind of forum) doesn't matter. Many fathers fight for their rights in court. And yes, probably the court would give you the right to visit and take part in raising your kid but yes, they will also expect you to pay child support. Probably around 500zl not euros. And no, the stuff you bring wouldn't count, only cash.


You weren't tricked into having a kid. She didn't rape you, went off the pill behind your back or made wholes in the condom. You made a decision you want to have a baby with her. Things didn't go as planned but you weren't tricked.

Ok, what was your plan in case she dies and you have to take care of the kid alone?
You asked for advice and I already told you what your 3 options are. You don't like it- though but it won't give you any more options.

P.S. There is no Polski. It's either Polish women/Pole or Polka.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Again- you are not a father legally so going to the police about that visit is like going to them because your neighbour doesn't want to let you into their house. If anything she may complain that some guy (you) is harassing her.

Signing birth certificate has nothing to do with claiming benefits so stop that crap. If you didn't apply you didn't commit a fraud. Plus you better read about benefits for single mothers in Poland before you make such claims because believe me she would be better of with a child support from you.

You are talking a lot of bollo*s

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

It's of course illegal to stop the other parent visits without a reason (if the guy is listed as father and the OP isn't) however it still happens.

I don't want to judge the OP as we don't know all the facts but the whole story sounds fishy.


Thank you Roz. I don't understand it either. Does he think now I will want to have his baby? Hilarious

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]


Because legally he's not the father. He refused to sign the birth certificate.
I agree that cutting off one parent is wrong however sometimes (and I'm not saying that's necessarily what's going on here) it's a way to pressure the parent to support it's kid. If someone hides their income (like signing company over to some family member) and say they don't have any income it may be the only way.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Again-how would you support your kid if you got the custody?
You say 1000 Euro is like 250 Euro in Poland yet you think she can support herself and the kid for 200 which is as if they cut your benefits to 800. And she does it for money? Somehow I don't see that huge profit for her.

If she sells the stuff illegally then you have some kind of leverage but then you brought stuff to Poland with the intention of it being sold so it puts you in a dodgy position as well.

I don't know what kind of advice you expected but there are only 3 options:
-keep peace with you ex and leave things as they were.
-find legal advice and become legally the father of the kid
-forget about them
What you do is up to you but that is all. There is no other option for you


Seriously? Believe me your money is of no interest to me beside as a part of the discussion.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

1- her saying it's her last chance to have a baby has nothing to do with it
2- it's admirable you looked at the future for you as a couple but in every relationship you have to see that there is a possibility things may go differently and you may split or your partner dies. How would you support the kid if you got full custody or your ex died?

3- her dating profile however awful doesn't change anything in your child situation
4- once you say she wants money then you say she doesn't want the money she wants the things you bring from The Netherlands...which one is it?

5- I doubt any court would agree that bringing that stuff that she has to sell is a child support. Her signing you do it has nothing to do with it. It's not money and it's not stuff for the kid. It does help her a lot but it's not supporting your kid.

6- you are getting 1000 euros and not working but you smirk when she doesn't want to work 40 hours for 200 ( she should move her as* to work if she can imo). You say you don't have money but think she will be ok on 200 euros supporting herself and the kid?

I am Polish but this is neither. It's two adults who can't solve their problems and the kid suffers in the end. She sounds like a b**ch but you sound like an as*. It seems to me you are worth each other tbh.

My advice is this- either save money and get a lawyer or as you said yourself

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Sorry but you refused when she asked you to legally be the father of the kid.
You didn't send child support (not even 25 euros a month it seems) and instead gave her an unwanted second hand stuff that she had to try and sell. That's not a child support. If you sold it yourself and gave her money then it would be child support.

And unless you are abusive or dangerous the court would grant you visits (full custody is almost impossible unless you have proof that she is dangerous for the kid). The courts may be in favour of the mothers but they wouldn't strip you of your rights to visit just because she tells them to.

And when you say you are father on benefits that's been cheated and all that...
If she moved to The Netherlands how would you help to support your kid? Why would you be willing to sign you are a father then?

It may be that I read you wrong but your story looks more fishy to me the more you tell us about that situation.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

Don't get me wrong, I do feel sorry for the OP and I don't want to make the mother a saint. I more tried to show that at least in two instances you can look at it from a different angle (his- I was scared she was tricking me, hers- he doesn't want to a knowledge the kid). For the daughters sake I hope they will come to an agreement.

Love / Polish mother of my child - 'No money, no daughter' - ADVICE NEEDED [46]

By not signing child birth certificate you basically didn't admit the kid. Now because of it you first have to prove the kid is yours. For now she is a single mother and the kid has an unknown father. Sorry but that's the consequence of your decision, not her's. And I also wonder a bit about your child support payment arrangements. If you have proof of sending her money your situation is better. If you didn't pay then it's like this:

You didn't want to admit the kid and you don't want to pay for it's support.
So if you want the right to the kid (with all the responsiblities that come with it) go to the court.
And no, it's not the picture of Poles

Love / Do women in Poland change their surnames to a feminine form of their husbands' surnames? [40]


That's not correct although you are right about rules being simple. Whenever you marry, whatever sex you are you have three options:
Stay with your name
Get a double name with hyphen in between
Your partner's last name
Simple as that.

Women usually take the husband's name however if they are professionals or like their maiden name they choose the double name option. Men take women's name usually only if their own is silly.

Very, very rarely the partners stay with different names.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

I understand your feelings and I'm sorry about your family.
I hope you don't think I try to deny the horrible acts of the past. I have no such intentions. But this memorials for me are the merit of the war: young boys being thrown in a situation they didn't cause and didn't want to take part in (of course excluding the monsters that were among them) on whichever side. You know that Soviets were awful but they were not more merciful towards their own ppl and for example soldiers that were caught by the enemy couldn't count on their country help and quite often ended in Siberia themself.

I preach compassion for the little ppl, the ones forced to be in the war and killed because of it. We should remember them because they are too the victim's of war.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

BTW I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

I think it's moronic for few reasons
We both agree that the Soviets harmed Poland and Polish ppl in many ways so why not keep at least one thing that they gave us as part of repatriation? I would prefer the metro but well. Would you suggest to demolish metro if that was what they 'gave' us

Very few ppl view it as Soviet anymore and in fact it's part of the Capital city not insignificant to it's identity
It serves the public in many ways and Poland doesn' have the resources to demolish a perfectly good culture building
I view it as kind of 'na złość mamie odmrozic sobie uszy' type of behaviour. Demolishing it wouldn't change anything. It won't change the horrible things that happened during Soviet ocuppation and will only make us loose a big building that we can use for good things.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

We agree a bit but not completely:
* I would leave them were they are
*I wouldn't do it to 'show the Soviets' but to make sure that even though we respect the fallen soldiers whatever nationality they are they were not the force freeing Poland but in fact occupying it

*I would do it to minimize the effect of the writings on the monument not out of revenge or to spite anyone
*I wouldn't mention Katyn( in my opinion that would degrade the memory of ppl who died there)
*I see no reason to demolish Palace of Culture and in fact think it's a moronic idea
I think that sums it up

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]


Even more reasons to keep them. It's part of our history. Maybe with an information next to the monument reminding that Soviets occupied Poland and few other historic facts? But by you suggesting demolishing Palace of Culture I can see it's not really the monuments or historic truth you are interested in but your own feelings.


They were. My grandma even yelled at the soldiers for lying in her beds without washing or taking their shoes off. The officer intervened and made soldiers wash.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

You still don't get it, do you? We are not saying that Soviets were a nice lot happily welcomed by Poland e.t.c. We are saying that this mouments (that quite often are also grave yards) are simple monuments for fallen soldiers who quite often didn't even want to be there. My family had to host a Russian brigade against their will and guess what- no one got raped. So it's not like Soviet soldier is a synonym for rapist.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

Well as you mentioned Silesia there is a church near my town where on the wall you have a place to put flowers and mourn Wermaht soldiers. No one is bothered by it. It's again a monument to the soldiers that died and not Nazi's policies.

I think you are a bit blinded by your personal experience. If your family died in a concentration camp and not Sabiria you'd be talking about them. And I don't believe Soviet soldiers were any better or worse than any other(of course the ppl giving orders are a different matter). The only thing is they fought on the side that ruined Poland (the same as Nazis)

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]


I come from Silesia. That granddad I was talking about was Silesian. While it's true their presence was no picnic I don't understand how it would change anything. Do you think Nazis were sweet and helped old grannies through the road?

And believe me there were plenty of German soldiers that believed in the glory of Germany, especially when the war just started and they were going towards Russia and not back.

News / Russian criticism of Poland - Soviet war memorial removal [325]

Well Dolno, my grandpa fought in the war and he always said they all were soldiers just like him. Germans, Russians quite often didn't want to be there. That's the soldier's fate. If he who fought with them could view them like that I think I have his blessing in saying the same.

They were just soldiers that died far away from home.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]


One-they are not clerks,they are ELECTED politicians to rule over the region.
Two-they were the ones resposible for organising the ceremony so yes, it was up to them what they wanted to do and how they wanted it to look like.

History / 60th anniversary of the Poznan uprising! [60]


What the hell are you on about? What guest? The army? Army wasn't a guest! More like one of the entertainments planned for the day.

And even if we go along with your guest analogy:
What kind of guest comes to the host celebration party with an agenda of their own? Not too nice, is it?


However not having that plastic card means that you cannot vote which means you don't have even the slightest say in what's going on in, theoretically ,your country. You can't join military, become a policeman or any kind of politician (not even local one for you). It means that for every government in the world you are not Polish.

Many ppl died and sacrificed a lot to be able to call themself Polish, be able to vote for their own goverment and hold, what you call so lightly, a plastic card. So don't you dare wipe your dirty mouth with Polish citizenship- I for one am proud to hold a plastic card with that white eagle. Maybe for you swearing allegiance to another country means nothing but not to me.