Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Ziemowit wrote:


and then you can scroll down to post #669 to read my response.

Polish Tutor wrote:


first and foremost, you must be joking if you think Poland is the place to meet and learn "foreign cultures". 98% Polish, 99,99999999% white.

secondly, the educational system you speak of, whether it's good or bad in general, they don't push language like it is pushed in Poland because it simply is not a necessity. why spend all that time and money to learn a language you cannot use. i've yet to meet a single American that got hired based on their language abilities.

in Poland, you study foreign languages because you have to. a 25 year old Pole entering the job market with no English, German, French.....your options become veeery limited.

language is a necessity in Poland, in America, it's not even a passing thought for most people.

Polish Tutor wrote:


and as a result, more and more people give up shortly after they start learning. I'd hate for my client base to be solely the few brave souls willing to duke it out with Polish grammar till they actually learn it (or an expat like me who is marrying a Polish girl and has a ton of motivation to learn it). It's simply not a dependable client influx, but if Poland continues to get more and more foreign investment, you can hope to still get the fresh off the boat "well, i'm in Poland, maybe i'll take some lessons!" crowd of learners......whereas they quit out of frustration 3 months later and take up English instead because that's what they use at work anyhow.

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

Delphiandomine wrote:


Whole Foods is fantastic.

Delphiandomine wrote:


because that's all you can do Delph.....suspect.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

grubas wrote:


congrats to this dude from Africa who can speak a bit, but this is a perfect example of Polish people saying someone can speak Polish.....when they really can't. you wouldn't brag about someone in your class who speaks B1 level English....so why highlight someone speaking AT BEST B1 level Polish?

TV interviews are edited, questions are prepared, they only show what went well, and even the things he said were nothing impressive. he's below FCE level and his pronunciation is poor....and has probably been in Poland for YEARS.

great post though....gets us back to the main topic of this thread and supports the theory of "hardest to learn" or at least "one of the hardest to learn".

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Delphiandomine wrote:


so you think Polish is not more difficult than other languages.....but requires more intelligence?

i'd argue that polish IS in fact more difficult to learn in general, but doesn't take intelligence to learn......rather........lots and lots of persistence and sheer will.....and time.

Delphiandomine wrote:


i don't understand your reasoning. how does Polish being difficult "explain why....better schools in the UK are now teaching Polish.....?"

Travel / POLISH PKP BAD ATTITUDE [14]

i didn't want to start an entire thread for this, so I'm just gonna post it here.

I have to say, after 3+ years of riding PKP trains and hating them, I rode Inter City yesterday from Poznan to Wroclaw and was pleasantly surprised. you have better seating conditions, more "normal" people on the train.....so less drunks/bums, the train rides smoother, is cleaner, and I made it to Wroclaw in 2 hours. I don't like public transport in general, but for a few extra zloties, Inter City trains are well worth it.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Delphiandomine wrote:


do you honestly think Latin is taught in elite schools because it is simply "not a language for stupid people"...? they chose it only because it's hard?

I think we can all agree that if I was a rich man living in the UK and was spending thousands of pounds/euros per year to send my child to a high end private school, I'd want him or her to be learning a language worth knowing.

tight rope walking over a pool of alligators is more difficult than tennis....should they be teaching them that too?

melsomelyb wrote:


roman alphabet vs. symbols/different alphabet....that's all that is. Polish is entirely more difficult than any of the above when it comes to forming grammatically correct, coherent sentences....which puts it right back at the top of the list.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

hey Seanus,

5 hedgehogs!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

hey seanus,

5 games!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

piec gier......that would be correct. nicely done.

i've always thought that "piec gier" was one of the ugliest ones.....

Life / Polish Hip Hop [47]

i'll tell you what i think of polish hip hop....

what would you poles say if you saw a bunch of americans in a music video, not one member of the group with any polish blood whatsoever, playing traditional polish folk music dressed in traditional polish garb, dancing around lakes that look like Mazury and mountains that look like Tatry?

Life / Polish Hip Hop [47]

arien wrote:


if I'm "racist" for saying that Polish people look ridiculous singing rap and hip hop songs, dressed in baggy pants, dancing around $200,000 cars "in the hood" (where is "the hood" by the way in Poland....Katowice?) and wearing NBA and NFL clothing with a baseball cap that says LA or NYC........sorry pal, that's not racist, it's the truth. just another blatant Polish rip off of American culture.

Food / Polish Eating Habits [87]

Babinich wrote:


interesting comment.

i remember the first few weeks I spent in Poland at my school. i was simply baffled by what the other teachers were eating during the day between classes. breakfast was almost always some sort of donut/pastry looking thing, and lunch time it wasn't uncommon to see more than one teacher munching on a prince polo or a snickers bar. I simply never saw this in America and it was so bizarre to see people eating candy bars as if they were real wholesome food.

as a teenager and young college student in America, I worked in a deli for several years and saw what people ate all day long. when it comes to sweets and chocolate especially, polish people simply eat more of it and more often....regardless of the time of day.

USA, Canada / Do Poles feel America is going down the drain? [149]

convex wrote:


I have this conversation with poles all the time. they say, "why do they have so many guns?" I lean towards what convex is getting at, but it's a topic not even worth having with polish people in most cases.

also, if i may add, regarding the title of this thread:

What do Poles know about America anyhow?

USA, Canada / Do Poles feel America is going down the drain? [149]

i still simply don't understand this thread.

you're asking Polish people whether they think America is going down the drain? where would they be getting such information.....Polsat? Since TVN or Tomasz Lis know what's up in the states.....(eye rolling emoticon)

threads like this is exactly why i started this thread months ago:

https://polishforums.com/usa-canada/speak-english-lived-america-new-love-hate-41802/4/

USA, Canada / Do Poles feel America is going down the drain? [149]

out of curiosity, where are those Poles on this thread????

there truly must be a handful, no?

History / Should visitors to Auschwitz pay an entrance fee? [82]


what about citizens of Isreal?

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [267]

ironside wrote:


yet another failed attempt at humor ironside. i hope his invisible fist finds the side of your head one night in the rynek.

poland is, in general, a racist country but much of it stems from simply not understanding other cultures. poland is polish, not much else. full of "ironside-type" people.

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [267]

seanus wrote:


there's a lot to be said about this fact. it has a lot to do with why poland is what it is today.

people don't come here. to poland, that is. sure, the yearly krakow tourists and random group of germans coming to wroclaw every summer to see where their grandfather lived before Poland took it over, but otherwise, it can't compare to the influx of foreigners and vacationers of Western European countries. part of it is because those countries simply have more to offer, and part of it is due to the general mentality of polish people........a mentality that is less than appreciated by a foreign visitor (along with the fact that nobody speaks Polish besides Poles).

poland in many ways in recent history got the $hit end of the stick, but i've lived here long enough to know that if the country's mentality changed, you'd see a bigger and better Poland. as an American, the Polish mentality appears utterly myopic, xenophobic and nationalistic yet at the same time jealous while complaining about everything and anything. often times i want to say to my students, "Sooooo......do you like Poland....or not?"

regardless, a complete personality overhaul wouldn't change the crap weather of this country, another reason why most people steer clear of Poland.

i think as a foreigner, the longer you stay in Poland, the more of a love/hate relationship you develop. luckily i've met some really good people along the way.

Life / I was cursing Poland daily, then returned home, but now thinking of going back.. [39]

curious zuczek....what were all the things you used to curse about when you lived in Poland?

i'd imagine they are all still here........waiting for your arrival.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

if you ask me, the entire EU is doomed to fail and the Greece issue is only the tip of the iceberg. too many countries with too many separate economic, cultural and idealistic views that eventually some countries that are doing well are going to get sick and tired of bailing out the weak. the USA has it's problems, sure, but they're all in it together and everyone is playing for the same team meaning everyone wants every state to succeed. in the EU, being ahead of the next country is simple competition, but when they get too far behind, they are obliged to write up a "bail out".

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

the whole world is drunk, man. everyone is feeling the drastic changes that are happening under everyone's noses. it's time for change and everyone's gotta be in on it.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

PlasticPole wrote:


it almost feels like an unfair request. a few countries start failing and instead of being held accountable for it, other countries should start buying their products to bring them back? if Pepsi starts failing, should Coca Cola start buying Pepsi stock to "help them out"?

like......reverse capitalism? it's not how mankind works.

Bolek wrote:


which is recipe for conflict (trying to avoid the "W" word). history shows that European countries don't play well together. maybe America is on the right track keeping all those troops in Germany :O

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

Zimmy wrote:


regardless whether it will work or not, you still cannot compare the USA to the EU. The EU is comprised of several different countries with different cultures, languages, political views and self interests. This is a network of countries that are competing with each other yet at the same time.....working together.

America is one country, one passport, one dominant language, 1 government meaning everyone is paying into the same federal tax system so everyone is in the same boat cheering on all 50 states to do well.

If Obama successfully socializes the American health care system, it will be Americans paying for Americans. If I were an Italian, I wouldn't want to be paying for hip surgery for some dude in....oh....i don't know.....Poland.

America doesn't have to....for example....bail out Canada if their economy starts going in the toilet.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

bolek:


this is essentially the difference between Americans and most Europeans. say this to an American and you'll get this answer


every time.

z darius wrote:


what homes? certainly in Poland, who owns a home? aside from old people living in Eastbumble Pole Wielkie village, I don't know anyone who owns a home personally excluding of course my rich students. the rest grew up crammed into a 50 sq. meter flat with their siblings and parents and still live in a little apt. 25, 30, 35, 40 years old, living in a little apt.

and for what it's worth, this week is a baaaaad week to bring up bailouts darius. hint hint, take a look at the title of this thread. spending money is spending money, sure, but countrymen bailing out their own country is fundamentally different than one country having to bail out another.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

Delphiandomine wrote:


what........in the world.......are you talking about.

I never have, and never will understand the motivation behind your posts. I'd be willing to put money on it that you pleasure yourself to a map of Poland every night. You truly boggle the mind, Mikey.

how's Lindenia doing?

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

eurola wrote:


but of course. yes. America is like life in communist eastern Europe from decades back. most certainly.

I mean COME ON.

please compare The United States of America to communist eastern europe. i'd love to see the similarities you speak of.

Life / Anything like netflix in Poland? [27]

no, there is nothing like Netflix in Poland.

simples.

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]

amathyst wrote:


i'm not singling you out amathyst, i have no beef with you personally, but I can't help but yet again think about how many people on this forum talk smack about America and comment on how the country is run, how it compares to Europe, it's financial systems, the intelligence of its citizens, lifestyles, how we're all fat, etc. etc...........when time and time again, 99.999% of those posters all share one very very big thing in common, that being:

"Never been to the States but....."

but what.

but WHAT.

https://polishforums.com/usa-canada/speak-english-lived-america-new-love-hate-41802/

News / The EU's 1 Trillion Dollar Rescue Package [144]


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