Food / Healthy polish food? [143]

great thread. case and point....at least one of my old points.

LondonChick wrote:


lifestyle, lifestyle, lifestyle.

this forum loves to go on about how "the west" eats such crappy food....well, take a look at this thread. Polish food is full of oil, butter, meat, meat, few vegetables, meat, meat, cabbage with meat, bread with meat, pierogi fried in butter, kielbasa with butter and meat....you get the point.

there are plenty of fat asses in Poland. in general, the high school and college age kids are thinner because they can't afford to go out to restaurants and end up eating a lot of goracy kubek. secondly, none of them own cars. they're hoofin' it well into their twenties, some of which never even get a car till they're in their 30's. walking 6-7 kilometers a day means you can eat that greasy polish stuff and still be thinner than "the westerners"....but haven't you all noticed that once they get to around 35.....everything kind of falls apart?

lifestyle, lifestyle, lifestyle. for a 150 pound person, walking at a strong pace burns 340 calories per hour. i don't own a car and I walk no less than 2 hours a day. i'm a little more than 150, so let's say that's 700 calories per day.

a Big Mac is 485 calories.

give all those 18-28 year olds cars like they all drive in America, and everybody's ass in this country explodes just the same.

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]

RonWest wrote:


along with Affirmative Action, The Black Entertainment Channel (BET), Black-Only schools/universities, Black-Only organizations and clubs, Black History Month.......

Life / Racism in Poland - the future [558]

Delphiandomine wrote:


but this is just like....didn't i used to say........when you comment about......with the thing......Ameri......uhh....eeeh.......hmmmm.

Food / Healthy polish food? [143]

yes, few vegetables.

Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

in my experience, they prefer american english, but often times misunderstand it. many words for poles are easier to pronounce or detect when spoken in british english, but due to the sheer exposure they have of american english, many prefer it.

Language / Do Poles prefer US American or UK English language? [185]

delphiandomine wrote:


yes, yes they are Delph. they all lie to me. they don't want to hurt my feelings. they also purposely act like they can't understand some of the words i say, and pronounce some words with british accents just to be "quirky". also, all those movies they watch from america, surely none of the american accents rub off on them. they simply ignore it all because they're shooting for the CPE exam.

seanus wrote:


anyone from the NY area can see the brooklyn accent is pretty off. i'd say that was the weakest one she did.

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [305]

an AMAZINGLY white society, completely homogenous, a national language that basically nobody masters (even some Poles) and a history of being pissed on over and over.

sorry, but it's a recipe for racism.

it's good to be white if Poland is your choice.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

convex wrote:


it's great that your apt. is "rock solid" and that it can withstand scud missles and tank rounds, but honestly, a lot of people say that about apts./houses out here, and i just don't see the point of it.

my family, and all of my friends back home in Duhmerica have wooden houses. 2X4's, plywood, sheet rock, some insulation, i juz. dom. unless you're anticipating tornadoes or hurricanes, what's the point of spending all that money on brick and concrete and whatever else people use out here to build their........fortresses. i'd love a brick home, they look beautiful and I'd assume hold heat quite nice, but would I spend an extra $100,000 so I could have brick? no. as for hurricanes and tornadoes....i guess that's what home owner's insurance is for.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

ooohhh, i guess i'll throw another question up. please translate these sentences into Polish:

"with a few women"

"with a few men"

"with a few men and women"

"with a few children"

"with four children"

"with four women"

"with four men"

and, for the hell of it, "with eight children".

just another attempt to show the inefficiency of Polish. the true test here would be if all native Polish speakers on this forum would have to type an answer right away without calling Kasia or Piotr or Magda for their opinion, along with everyone typing their answer simultaneously so that they can't read posts from others and then say, "OOOHH...that's right, it should be xyz...."

anyway, enjoy!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

ziemowit wrote:


oooh ziemowit, always anxious to throw in the pot shots when good ole' Fuzzy writes something about Polish.

ziemowit wrote:


actually, your post made no such suggestion.

but now that you are, why would you assume I don't already know how to do it? OOOOHHH, that's right. I almost forgot how incredibly condescending your posts are every time I show some intelligence. FUZZYWICKETS couldn't possibly be qualified enough to discuss Polish on this kind of level.

does the lady in your life get as turned on as I do watching how masterfully you can conjugate Polish nouns? i bet you have that body paint stuff and go through all 7 cases....

Polish Tutor wrote:


you know, as well as I do, that this is utter bollocks.

as for the rest of your post............anyone?

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

ziemowit wrote:


ziemowit wrote:


two things:

1) If you assume I already know how to do it, why would you then give me advice on how to do it?

2) Why the hell would I write the answers to the questions????!!!!! I posted those questions to "show how inefficient the Polish language is," and all that good stuff. Why would I challenge people on this forum with questions, and then immediately thereafter post the answers???!!!

by the way pappy, I don't see any of your answers....;)

Ziemowit wrote:


oh, boo hoo hoo. quit back peddling. you made a snide comment towards me, as you always do, and then decided to not only assume I couldn't already do it on my own, but followed it up with advice on the subject I had never asked for. you're more than welcome to give advice, there's no doubt your Polish is better than mine, just don't be so snide about it, dear Yoda of Polish. maybe other posters tolerate it, but if you keep posting with that tone and continue to take pot shots, i'm going to call you out on it every time, pompadour.

Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

convex wrote:


Koreans as well.....and the Chinese i knew in America did the same.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Ziemowit wrote:


hahahaha......oh paaaaleeease. first and foremost, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, me boy. this is why you've gotten yourself into this pickle. don't play the "it's not my first language so that's why it may come off as offensive to some" card. you know exactly what you said, how you said it, how snide it was, and you know exactly what your "tone" has been like in previous posts directed towards me. i don't have to give you past examples because you know exactly what i'm talking about.

and for what it's worth, my comment about the "body paint".......come on man, you're a big boy. talk about thin skinned. good luck reporting that one to the mods here.

"FUZZYWICKETS said that I conjugate nouns with body paint on my lady! I demand he be spoken to about this!"

i can already hear the mods laughing at that one.

Magdalena:

excellent work. I do however have one question:

with 4 men, with 4 women.....does "4" conjugate to "czterema" for both men and women? I'm not suggesting you're wrong, but I have heard from native Poles "czteroma".

?

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Magdalena wrote:


i know the sheer number of English verb tenses can be a bit tedious to start, but you simply can't compare them to Polish.

let's see:

I will have......future perfect.....now insert ANY past participle of ANY verb, and you are set. Change the person from I to he, she, we, they, etc. etc., no difference.

Have you had....present perfect.....same story. insert ANY past participle of ANY verb, use the same I, we, he, she, they, it, you.....on and on.

Polish? you chose byc? ok.....

jestem, jestes, jestesmy, jestescie, jest, sa, bylem, bylam, byla, bylo, byl, bylismy, bylysmy, byliscie, bylyscie, byli, byly, bylbym, bylabym, bylby, bylaby, byloby, bylibysmy, bylybysmy, byliby, bylyby, bylibyscie, bylybyscie........bede, bedzie, bedziemy, bedziecie, bedziesz, beda......badz, badzmy, badzcie, bedac......on and on.

and we haven't even mentioned "bywac".

imagine how big a task that is for a Polish learner when a new verb is introduced.

once you hear a new verb in English, you can immediately insert it into a sentence using any person, any tense....all you need to know are the present, past and past participle forms. 3 things to remember per verb. the rest.....all English verbs follow the same damn pattern.

English most certainly has it's difficulties, but it's 100 fold easier to use and learn new English verbs compared to Polish.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Magdalena wrote:

I wasn't arguing against any of this so.......agreed.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Lyzko wrote:


congratulations, you just made fun of a child less than 11 years old (pre-junior high is below that age) who had an unfortunate upbringing and didn't learn to read or write properly and most likely cannot speak properly either.

and no, because the NY Times printed it doesn't make it any better.

trying not to sound too overly sensitive here, ale.....stary.......that child is not normal and you're making a mockery of him.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Lyzko wrote:


because to be THAT poor at spelling, that is not a child who had a normal upbringing.

Lyzko wrote:


let's not, because that's junior high school, not pre-junior high school.

Lyzko wrote:


children of below-normal I.Q. levels exist in every country and the child who wrote that clearly does not have a normal I.Q. (and probably terrible parents or lack there of), so what is the point of your post?

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

random question to the Poles i've been meaning to ask:

why oh why do you call a tuxedo a "smoking".....

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]

shopgirl wrote:


sounds like Fox News in America.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Ziemowit wrote:


and then you can scroll down to post #669 to read my response.

Polish Tutor wrote:


first and foremost, you must be joking if you think Poland is the place to meet and learn "foreign cultures". 98% Polish, 99,99999999% white.

secondly, the educational system you speak of, whether it's good or bad in general, they don't push language like it is pushed in Poland because it simply is not a necessity. why spend all that time and money to learn a language you cannot use. i've yet to meet a single American that got hired based on their language abilities.

in Poland, you study foreign languages because you have to. a 25 year old Pole entering the job market with no English, German, French.....your options become veeery limited.

language is a necessity in Poland, in America, it's not even a passing thought for most people.

Polish Tutor wrote:


and as a result, more and more people give up shortly after they start learning. I'd hate for my client base to be solely the few brave souls willing to duke it out with Polish grammar till they actually learn it (or an expat like me who is marrying a Polish girl and has a ton of motivation to learn it). It's simply not a dependable client influx, but if Poland continues to get more and more foreign investment, you can hope to still get the fresh off the boat "well, i'm in Poland, maybe i'll take some lessons!" crowd of learners......whereas they quit out of frustration 3 months later and take up English instead because that's what they use at work anyhow.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

grubas wrote:


congrats to this dude from Africa who can speak a bit, but this is a perfect example of Polish people saying someone can speak Polish.....when they really can't. you wouldn't brag about someone in your class who speaks B1 level English....so why highlight someone speaking AT BEST B1 level Polish?

TV interviews are edited, questions are prepared, they only show what went well, and even the things he said were nothing impressive. he's below FCE level and his pronunciation is poor....and has probably been in Poland for YEARS.

great post though....gets us back to the main topic of this thread and supports the theory of "hardest to learn" or at least "one of the hardest to learn".

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Delphiandomine wrote:


so you think Polish is not more difficult than other languages.....but requires more intelligence?

i'd argue that polish IS in fact more difficult to learn in general, but doesn't take intelligence to learn......rather........lots and lots of persistence and sheer will.....and time.

Delphiandomine wrote:


i don't understand your reasoning. how does Polish being difficult "explain why....better schools in the UK are now teaching Polish.....?"

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

Delphiandomine wrote:


do you honestly think Latin is taught in elite schools because it is simply "not a language for stupid people"...? they chose it only because it's hard?

I think we can all agree that if I was a rich man living in the UK and was spending thousands of pounds/euros per year to send my child to a high end private school, I'd want him or her to be learning a language worth knowing.

tight rope walking over a pool of alligators is more difficult than tennis....should they be teaching them that too?

melsomelyb wrote:


roman alphabet vs. symbols/different alphabet....that's all that is. Polish is entirely more difficult than any of the above when it comes to forming grammatically correct, coherent sentences....which puts it right back at the top of the list.

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

hey Seanus,

5 hedgehogs!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

hey seanus,

5 games!

Language / Polish was chosen the HARDEST LANGUAGE in the world to learn... :D [1558]

piec gier......that would be correct. nicely done.

i've always thought that "piec gier" was one of the ugliest ones.....

Life / Polish Hip Hop [47]

i'll tell you what i think of polish hip hop....

what would you poles say if you saw a bunch of americans in a music video, not one member of the group with any polish blood whatsoever, playing traditional polish folk music dressed in traditional polish garb, dancing around lakes that look like Mazury and mountains that look like Tatry?

Life / Polish Hip Hop [47]

arien wrote:


if I'm "racist" for saying that Polish people look ridiculous singing rap and hip hop songs, dressed in baggy pants, dancing around $200,000 cars "in the hood" (where is "the hood" by the way in Poland....Katowice?) and wearing NBA and NFL clothing with a baseball cap that says LA or NYC........sorry pal, that's not racist, it's the truth. just another blatant Polish rip off of American culture.

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [305]

ironside wrote:


yet another failed attempt at humor ironside. i hope his invisible fist finds the side of your head one night in the rynek.

poland is, in general, a racist country but much of it stems from simply not understanding other cultures. poland is polish, not much else. full of "ironside-type" people.

Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [305]

seanus wrote:


there's a lot to be said about this fact. it has a lot to do with why poland is what it is today.

people don't come here. to poland, that is. sure, the yearly krakow tourists and random group of germans coming to wroclaw every summer to see where their grandfather lived before Poland took it over, but otherwise, it can't compare to the influx of foreigners and vacationers of Western European countries. part of it is because those countries simply have more to offer, and part of it is due to the general mentality of polish people........a mentality that is less than appreciated by a foreign visitor (along with the fact that nobody speaks Polish besides Poles).

poland in many ways in recent history got the $hit end of the stick, but i've lived here long enough to know that if the country's mentality changed, you'd see a bigger and better Poland. as an American, the Polish mentality appears utterly myopic, xenophobic and nationalistic yet at the same time jealous while complaining about everything and anything. often times i want to say to my students, "Sooooo......do you like Poland....or not?"

regardless, a complete personality overhaul wouldn't change the crap weather of this country, another reason why most people steer clear of Poland.

i think as a foreigner, the longer you stay in Poland, the more of a love/hate relationship you develop. luckily i've met some really good people along the way.