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nincompoop_not   
4 Jun 2010
Language / Polish and other slavic language differences [60]

I've only ever studied Czech and not Slovak, though;

may I ask how come?

I'm finding it very interesting, since Slawistyka has never been the most popular one in the past (in Poland). It was always a choice between studying Polish lit and language (teaching 'career') or Slawistyka.

So it's extremely interesting that so many people, and not from Poland, study it. Hats off.
nincompoop_not   
4 Jun 2010
Travel / Visiting - Mazury? what else besides the obvious? [15]

Two of the people I know would like to go and visit Poland. They'll be going separately but I was the person both of them asked about Poland and recommendation.

And the question was - where would you recommend to go?

One of them heard of Krakow, the other one - been there; both were in Warsaw.
It wouldn't be such a huge problem if I was to go and take them places but it's not an option. ALso, they would like to see something different they've already seen. One of them was on a student exchange in Gdansk (before '89)

Now, I personally have been always fond of our lake district and took another friend there last year. So we went to Gizycko, of course we saw the Hitler's bunker (Wilczy Szaniec), we went to Sw.Lipka church, we stayed for a night in a hotel by the Nida or some other lake (we drove there from Sopot so we went to Olsztyn and Malbork castles and whatever was on our way). Staff there was speaking English and German, menus where in both languages - great.

But have any of you happened to visit this region and have some other places to recommend? Any experience would be good.

Since both of my friends asked for 'not the obvious ones' (places), I've had an idea to recommend the Polish coast. I know there's one of the national parks with quicksand, the coast itself is beautiful but not sure what else is there besides the lighthouses and great coast!

I was thinking Szczecin/ Swinoujscie but I've been there as a child and don't remember much except ferry, for example, and catamaran ride from point A to B and being sick.

Both of them have visited Krakow but none of them saw the national park, our own Jurassic one :). Again, that's easy for me to point out and there's plenty on the net. As well as Wieliczka and Zakopane.

I can't remember how long the trip suppose to last, but max 2 weeks I think, and I would welcome any suggestions!

Also, a place where Brits and other people tend to hang out would be great. In case they'll find themselves in Wroclaw, Krakow or other Poznan or Warsaw.

None of them speak a word in Polish and they both are 40+.

Thanks!
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

aggressively enforce the collection of rent arrears, even when the tenants are vulnerable and in need of support.

very true; databases are not updated by council employees so you end up with stories like 'my father has been dead for two years and they sent summons' or about insensitivity of council staff in papers. The communications is usually broken and 'knowledge/info sharing' is non-existent. Sometimes within department and sometimes among the,

Which mirrors the information sharing (not) within governmental agencies and departments
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
Language / Polish and other slavic language differences [60]

Czech and Slovak would be extremely difficult to distinguish for me

called my friend - half Czech half Slovak
main differences:
when both languages have, as she called it, 'dash' above C, S, Z (è), Czech has got one also above R (Slovak doesnt)

Slovak has got dashes above L and T (Czech doesnt) and Slovak has got 'umlauts' (I call them that those two horizontal dots - like in German lang.) above A (ä)

and Czech doesnt
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

I don't want to have children for the same reason why I don't want to have a dog - too much trouble, filth, costs and in addition to that I wouldn't be able to leave house whenever I want for as long as I want for some 20 years.

wow! that's a bit harsh
your mum had a different point of view obviously

Perhaps one day nature will kick in and I'll start wishing for kids. It won't happen anytime soon, though

you've got a great chance with more women becoming mothers around 40.

sooner or later you'll find yourself alone in the sea of babies, nappies, mothers and fathers - bored and isolated by other people's temporary limitations

but then - there's A J to rescue ;)
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

had onece guy who worked 4 years as self employed,fell from the scaffold,damaged his bacbone and end up 4 weeks in the hospital..

and probably had no insurance whatsoever just whatever he was paying in NI contribution

see? that's the problem gregy; if he got some kind of professional insurance as self-employed he wouldn't have this problem as and he'd be insured from accidents, death and also receive a weekly payment if he was unable to do the job. All from an insurance which cost - depending on trade - from £400 to £2000 per year.

OFF TOPIC - why gregy and Amethyst are highlighted black? Are they blacklisted or something?
edit - not anymore
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

My point was that we have less council housing stock (longer lists as you will be aware if you have worked for a social housing department)

Yep, missed your point, but mine was simply stating the fact that we do not have a huge number of council housing in PL (compare to the UK) therefore no Brit would be ever able to live in one. :)
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Old Polish Prayer Book-Chlib Duszi [14]

The chlib dusi (bread of life in english) is an old standby once given to children at their first confession/first communion (yes there were orthodox parishes that gave first communion to children at the same time as their first confession..and yes = have a humeral veil from an oca parish that used to have adoration and benediction during lent). the chlib dusi slavonic is written in latinica using the slovak alphabet.

orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=25795.0

The first editions of Chlib dus~i were compiled by Father Aleksander Duchnovic~, the "national awakener" of the Rusyns, who was a liturgist and canon of the Pres~ov Eparchy in the 1st half of the 19th century[...]

The older editions of Chlib dus~i from Europe are in Slavonic only

theologyincolor.com/hymns/pdf/pisennik_bibliography.pdf - -page 3 and 4

Carpatho-Rusyn prayerbook

Look also for info on Starokatolicki Kosciol Morawitow. They identified themselves in 1906. Until then they were part of RC church in Poland. However, they patron was and is Our Lady of Perpetual Help and they've also had churches in south east part of Poland and Russia/Ukraine.

Maybe ther's a connection/explanation.
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

Wroclaw Boy

:) even in communist Poland we've had HAs, called spoldzielnie mieszkaniowe, which weren't administered by local authorities. They were the first ones starting to sell of their stock to resident.

Hosuing stock managed by authorities was, and still is, called 'mieszkania komunalne/kwaterunkowe'.

To be honest, England doesnt have a great deal of "council" housing stock,

Still the proportion of HAs to council housing is bigger in Poland than in the UK. I dare to say that as I've worked on various housing stock transfer, including PFIs and ALMOs, and I've worked for HAs, ALMOs and various housing departments.
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

Wroclaw Boy

Of course can't talk for the whole of Poland, but it was the tendency back in 70s. and 80s. and something what I saw in my home town, towns I visited and town where I studied.

But as I say - pre 1992
nincompoop_not   
3 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

I'd say that the number of Brits living in council housing in Poland could be counted on the fingers of one badly frost-bitten hand.

you are correct here but for a different reason
Poland doesn't have as big council housing as UK does.

Most of the block of flats you see in Poland have been administered by 'spoldzielnie mieszkaniowe' for ages (even in PRL) which are equivalent of housing associations here in the UK. Proportion of HAs properties in Poland to typical 'council housing' ones is reversed to the UK ones.

Council properties in Poland used to be complete s-holes in very nice old buildings and town houses, usually in city centres and occupied by the scummiest of scum. You wouldn't want to walki in an area like that.

Since 1990 most of these properties are being reclaimed of course so it often happens that 'miasto' (local authority) puts some of them in HAs - exactly the same mechanism/process as in the UK. We let you build here but x% of flats will be for people we need to re-house.

edit - so my point is that I suspect there's no Brit living in a council property in Poland :)
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Poland Genealogy Resources [130]

true, and one more thing worth adding - the digital library is a project undertaken across Poland so if put Biblioteka Cyfrowa in google/whatever search engine , you'll come across digital libraries from other parts of Poland.

Couldnt find one directory for all of them.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

gregy741:
IN The UK Polish have to pass "habitual residency test"automaticly awarded after 5 years,before 5 years its difficult

You contradict yourself here. Earlier on you claimed that you received welfare in 2007 after arriving in the UK in 2004. My calculator says you must have been in the country for 2.5 - 3 years at the time. Not 5.

which someone who got WRS and had 12 month continuous employment will satisfy after a year
5 years is for naturalisation purposes
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

well no much chances(single,young healthy)but hey!!!

my friend is British (well, N. Irish) and he doesn't stand a chance (forget he'd even want to try)
how do you think he feels about it?
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

seriously, I have no idea - really NO IDEA - how come you people get in so much trouble always
and I say 'you people' on purpose as I can't identify with my compatriots
Been here over 11 years, went through a number of issues and dealing with offices - never had a problem once. Always managed to sort out things that needed sorting out.

I've learnt long time ago in Poland, which I applied here in the UK, nothing, but nothing should be done by mouth/telephone etc.

When I start drill down stories I hear from other Polish people, I come often to one conclusion - people have no idea how the system works, what they should do, what they should take care of, what they should ask for.

And that's when problems start. Not understanding simple mechanism.
As for your council housing application. Wow!
No comments here because it's one of my pet hates. Seriously. And I could go on and on about it.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

even for stiupid JSA polish people need a solicytor or they get fu..

seriously, that's a lot of balls!

I know someone who had to go on JSA, luckily for 2 months only but he called and said: listen, they refused! And they did indeed.

However, the very next day he got another letter saying - yes. I had a look at both letters and what's happening is that DWP keeps sending two letters - one, refusal, and the other - positive decision. One of them is about contribution based JSA and the other one - income based.

I know of another person who, being here for 3 or 4 years, was stupid enough and didn't fulfil the WRS requirements. Within the first 12 months she's changed jobs and thought she doesn't have to inform HO about it. She's got a baby now and fights for child benefit or something else which she's being refused based on the fact she didn't follow the process and is not a 'habitual resident' here.

I know of another person who came a year or 2 years ago and didn't think had to register at all.

There's a great misunderstanding of rules and processes that need to be followed and because of that people find themselves in troubles. Also, a number of Polish so called 'accountants' have no idea what they are doing and are not up to date with legislation, charging people for filling in paperwork re: CHB/WTC - you name it - and then blaming the system.

I simply disagree with you.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Poland Genealogy Resources [130]

wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra

It's a digital library of various books, documents and other resources (also some newspapers)
From nobility in Poland to address books and phone books well before 1939; names of villages and their owners etc etc

Most of the documents are in Polish, some Latin. It covers the area of Wielkopolska, but also partially Pomorze and other regions if it was within the administration of Poznan Principality or Gniezno archdiocese.

another one
archiwum.plock.com/index_g.php

This is a link to a new project from National Archive in Plock. They are currently working on it but some of the documents, like birth/death/marriage certificates up to 1907 are online.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

I went to check out the fotka.pl and home page is enough for me.
They are very very young girls with a very sexed up photos :)

AJ
can I date you? ;)
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

well that girl Ksysia knows english very good and she had good job in UK but she claims that she had to give up it because of mobbing (due to she's polish)

The only nasty remark about me happened back in 2002 when some really stupid finance woman asked, knowing that I will hear this, 'what is this Polish girl doing here working on this programme?'. When two years later she became acting programme manager, a month into the job she asked me to her office and announced - there's no job for you any more. We are freezing XXXX funding, you can pack your desk.

I complained, she got bollo...ing from the chief and three months later she was told to pack her desk and go quietly or face disciplinary. I had my karma moment when I heard about it.

Any other job I've done since - not a sniff of stupid behaviour.

As for points made by Ksysia, I have no idea where she found herself but none of the people I know/came across would come up with this BS. Unless you are from Mitcham:).

KirkhamWesham
some people need time
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Study / 90% of Poles have university degree? [57]

When Poland became a 'free country' yet again in the 90. suddenly there was a huge increase in a number of schools - private schools - where you were able to do your BA/MA.

I've known number of people who were telling me 'I have two degrees' to which I always replied - where from? From Pcimie Dolne?'

Pcimie Dolne is a derogatory term - it means that something coming from there can't be of any value.

But that was the case back in the 90 - huge number of semi-unis/schools that you coughed up the dosh and you were studying to get your BA and MA. Most of these people wouldn't make it through exams to get to a normal, old established unis. Most of these schools didn't have good lecturers because those who valued themselves wouldn't set a foot through the door.

It's changed later - money talks. Few schools since then closed the door. Number of reasons, from various frauds to not having proper curriculum etc.

I would think that the situation is more balanced now, but in the 90 it was wild wild west and yes, I wouldnt be surprised if the number was really high.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / The number of Anti-English Poles... [228]

One of the most common reasons is English 'dishonesty' which you call being polite. Another one - lack of the language leaves people doing some jobs they perceive well below their qualifications and that's another reason to be bitter and blame others.

But you can't talk about 'numbers' because these are few exceptions of people who won't learn because they don't want to.
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

Why are they interested particularly in single mothers? u can call me naive but i dont know why would they ...

abuse
something what was not talked about in Poland until very recently
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Genealogy / Suwalki/Supliski [8]

There are two:

1. Established in 1908
Parafia =Parish) rzymsko-katolicka p.w. Matki Boskiej Czestochowskiej
Adres: Bacejły 32, 16-411 Szypliszki
Telefon: (87) 568-11-27

2. Established in 1794
Parafia rzymsko-katolicka p.w. Ducha Świętego
Adres: Kaletnik 70, 16-411 Szypliszki
Telefon: (87) 564-79-28

you can do a partial check here online:

geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php

click 'podlaskie' (current name of the district where Szypliszki are)
not all the records are online so not sure if you find anything. Gave you adresses to Szypliszki parishes in another topic
nincompoop_not   
2 Jun 2010
Love / Inside polish women's psychology and mind [109]

can you please help me understand the mind of polish women that do not have and dont want to have children?

don't have because they won't think about it until they find 'the one'
dont want to have - I suspect some of them may have children already and just 'omit' this fact at this early stage

Could also be that they have, they chose an option 'don't want to have' (which is true) but they omit for a security reason....internet is full of creepy crawlies who look for single mothers
nincompoop_not   
1 Jun 2010
UK, Ireland / Are you a Polish smoker in UK? [18]

Any Polish shop but ideally find a Polish person among your friends and ask them.
Also the shop needs to be trusted; otherwise you may end up with the ones produced in Russia/Ukraine and those taste completely different than the ones produced in Poland.
nincompoop_not   
1 Jun 2010
Language / Nazwy mieszkanców - the names of a city/country residents in Polish [14]

toruńczyk -who lives in Toruń

wrong
It's Torunianin (single) and Torunianie (plural)

As Ziemowit says, forms with '-ak' ending are less formal, but don't apply to all cities. So you don't say 'torunczyk' or 'gdanszczak'; you say 'gdanszczanin/torunianin etc and general rule is creating the names by adding '(n)in'.

Krakowiak, Warszawiak, even Wroclawiak are ok tho.
The naming rule can be split in 3 basic sections:
-naming citizens of Polish cities
-naming foreigners (such as Amerykanin, Brytyjczyk, Norweg, Szwed etc)
-naming citizens of foreign cities( berlinczyk, londynczyk, BUT prazanka= female citizen of Prague (m. - prazanin), and paryzanin = citizen of Paris (f. - paryzanka)

But as you can see - there seem to be no strict rule for foreign cities' citizens :)

I recommend this:
so.pwn.pl