Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]


Its not just crazy its a Ponzi scheme, based on Poles earnings in the west. Cities like Lublin with the lagest emigration will see their property prices going down slower than Krakow,Warsaw as their property buying population is elsewhere.The denial going on can only last so long, as economics call the shots, As one of the more objective guys on this site said recently something has to give.

UK, Ireland / Irish Student Locating to Lodz - Can I bring Irish Car? [9]

What car are Irish,is it the DeLorean? I think you can drive them in warsaw.

UK, Ireland / Irish Student Locating to Lodz - Can I bring Irish Car? [9]


Cars are very expensive in Poland compared to Ireland..

Real Estate / Poland: the building boom goes on [28]


What would happen if the majority Poles abroad had to return home due to the world recession. It would be back to square one again. Tusk and Co would have to admit that nothing has been achieved and that its all illusion perpetuated by spin.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]


But there is a gigantic down-turn in the world economy, and those jobs the Poles were making all the cash with are quickly evaporating. I know poles here(Ireland) who are paying their mortgage with social welfare payments because the wages in Poland would not even cover the repayments for their garage. The thing is Poland will have Familys living abroad with their mortgaged home sitting empty as the home wages are futile in relation to the banking reality.

They may end up getting Granny to help with a 60 yr mortgage as they are new to all this and they are getting scammed beyond belief.


They are desperate but soon or later the prices will eventually reflect the actual wages of the country. The unavailability of property is greatly exaggerated and only helps drive the irrationality of buyers who like you said are new to all this bollsh1t


I'd say its much less complicated than this,its simply the wages of the buying public are in the west,dont complicate the matter..Also in Ireland we have typical mortgage system since ever and we still made the biggest(property bubble) mess in European history and i can assure you there were no commies here only saints.

You should not talk percentage while discussing a property bubble, you should simplify it to before and after bubble. If you think there is no bubble well then you think too hard the wrong way. If there is a major improvement in the economy in the next 2 years and wages quadruple, well then your prediction of dropping by only 10 or 20% may be true. I dont think you should blame it on the stupidity of the Polish it has to do with external factors light year away from their control. Something will have to give.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]


Realistically im talking back to 2005-06 prices not 2002.


Its determined by how much the worker can afford,banks can asked for only the amount they know they can screw you for,as in what you earn (or depending on where you earn


why would they??


explain??


im not bitter, just like to debate,,i could be wrong, i could be right,however i never attack people on this forum unlike the majority here.


The country is f0cked economically and you know it.. How can you have a recession if your country is bordering on poverty..It had nothing to loose ya twat. Im sick of people saying Poland avoided the world recession,such nonsense so did all the African countries avoid the world recession as well.. Stop buying into the spin of Tusk and all those right wing thugs..

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


If all the Poles who emigrated went home unemployment would be the same or even higher. If they are doing well why are they all staying the west.

Real Estate / Buying a flat in Krakow; prices are still falling? [200]

Saying that Poland avoided the world recession is at billion times more idiotic. I heard that the Republic of Zimbabwe avoided the world recession as well.

Love / My Polish wife doesn't want to move to the UK with me - what to do? [96]

Could be worse,could be the other way around.

Real Estate / Poland: the building boom goes on [28]

My point was "If they returned back to Poland" My point is that it would be very similar to the pre 2005 state. Unemployment etc..

Real Estate / Where to look on the internet for Poland Real Estate [112]

Pawlinska

How much has the property gone down in price over the last year?

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

What is the person on 8000 working at if you don't mind me asking?

Real Estate / Poland: the building boom goes on [28]


need a lot more than this


What about property-bubble,High rent, growing unemployment, mass immigration?

Life / Cannabis / Weed in Poland... How much does marijuana cost per gram and how easy is to get it? [355]

By keeping pot illegal
the governments can maintain social control,allows permission for random urine samples on workers, make huge profits from the high prices. Right wing parties can get elected by saying it a lethal drug. Will stop the mainstream getting stoned and tuning out of consumerist society.

All though the future with peak oil,the collapse of currencies,water shortage etc etc. I think the war on weed will slacken due to economic reasons.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

warsawvoice.pl/WVpage/pages/article.php/22317/article#

Just what does this salesman mean by "equilibrium"?
Based on the last 50 years?
The last 25 years
The last 10 years
or the last 5 years since the bubble began.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


I did not ask that question
My question was


????

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


Its amazing the sh1t these hired journalist spray on their public.


Its a pity these lackie journalist get confronted so little in the mainstream until its too late.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Logical replys only, not tabloid snark by people who are in denial about their inevitably deflating properties.

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]



It is an absolute disaster, for the average Pole, and no, you have not got it wrong,,Go over the threads on this site, if you want a good laugh at the developers trying to cover it up with snark attacks.


Yes its crazy over there , Here are some fact from wikapedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_property_bubble

The net is full of shype about there being no bubble and all that b0lox. I have warned people already to stay away from english speaking sites, as they are monopolised by developers. Go check it out for yourself forget about this site.

And yes wages are as little as 100 euro a week and even less if on minimum wage..
Check out the house prices on Mandom if you want to see gigantic property bubble denial spin..Also check out wages in Poland for the average worker,

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


Your welcome, better of out of the market anyway, and keeping it real. Im sure your Polish house-mates will laugh when they see the shype and lies that the spammers put out on this form. Check it out for yourself as well,,bubble are bubbles.

News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]


Harry's on the ball here. But then again Harry, you dont like people interfering with your English government as you said a while back in your little nationalist vomit eh lol

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]


I can see that day coming for sure but let me now if you hear anything before i do,cheers mate

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Sure lads lets wait together and see,,No matter how much you boys spam, gravity always wins,,,"pop" Prices will fall as in all property bubble,,,unless there is an economical miracle, and going by the right-wing thugs that run the country,I doubt it.


answer please loverboys

Real Estate / PLN 2,500 the going rate for an apartment in Poland [210]

Its my absolute conviction, after studying property bubble in other countries, that the common closing down of web discussions on property, is and has been the objective of the Darwinian developers.

No discussion plays directly into their hands for obvious reason. The (developers) lads on this site, would be dancing with joy and victory if this was also to occur here. They would be delighted if only Silvio Berlusconi style media existed and dissent was blocked. They would much prefer if we talked about topics such as "have Polish people big noses"or "why do women use sex as a weapon".

A victory, no doubt, to the "Chicago Boy".
Discussions should not be closed down, moderators should do their job and defend logical debate against attack of a snark nature. Surely that is the democratic method. If the lads have their way and the property discussions is banned,(section 31 again eh) the people behind this site and their honesty will be under question. Are gold members more than gold members? Surely they should be disciplined and not the general debate.

That said this is a wonderful site, with fantastic knowledge about Poland and the vast majority of members are fine. Just a few bad apples.

Life / What are the things which cause culture shock in Poland? [164]


This book may explain the reasons behind this
"Free to hate" written by Paul Hockenos
I read it a decade ago and it still spring to mind when i hear Slavic nationalism and other forms of ethnocentrism.
Has anyone one here read this book, Seanus maybe?

Life / What are the things which cause culture shock in Poland? [164]

Heres a bit on that book,its a great read.

foreignaffairs.com/articles/49607/robert-legvold/free-to-ha te-the-rise-of-the-right-in-post-communist-eastern-eur


Thanks I'll check it out

News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]

The cross metaphorically represent a tug of war in Polish society between modernism and catholicism. Thats why a decision cant be made. The pro-cross guy on Polish news last night called the anti-cross people "Jews". This guy is a member in my view of the Polish Taliban, A frankenstein element of society created by the church and the brain-damage of the Soviet past. The reason for the silence in Polish politics is because there is no real political divide, only a moral one. The two main parties are right wing one free-market the other catholic.

When the Poles finish this fight against invisible enemies the IMF and Tusk will have sold the the entire country through privatization and all they(the Polish people) will have left is a cross and hoarse throats.

News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]

well the extreme element that are opposed to modernism are these fanatics. You miss my point. These Taliban represent a undiluted view of a large section of religious society.

Its metaphorical,it has nothing to do with a lump of wood.

News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]

everything is on a continuum, these guys are just the lunatic fringe of something mainstream.When we fought this battle in Ireland very recently it was a bunch of loons called Youth Defense that ran around the place with crucifixes and futus in jar.

News / New cross war in Warsaw [530]

I mean fetus